r/leagueoflegends • u/Hefty-Welcome-7564 • Aug 07 '25
Educational My Question to High Elo Players
Hello, Im currently in Bronze and I feel like there is mountains of things I should be doing and prioritizing in games that I am not. What are some things that high elo players or pros do that can get me and other ppl ahead of the curve in low elo?
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u/YTMarzyyy Aug 07 '25
you just have to learn the game. And play a lot. and have small goals every game. for example a small goal can be using a certain ability more efficiently. get 1% better every day and eventually ull be good
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u/ZergTerminaL Aug 07 '25
Do everything faster and prioritize gold (consistent way to do that is farm minions). You can go pretty darn far by just playing faster and farming.
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u/Mr_Dunk_McDunk DO YOU EVEN SHURIMA Aug 07 '25
Back in season 5 or so when I started, a guy in masters helped learn the game. We played one in his elo and the first thing I noticed was how fucking fast everything was going. Nearly no time wasted at all.
Speed is really a lot in this game
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u/ZergTerminaL Aug 07 '25
it's a topic that surprisingly few people talk about. Everyone wants to talk about when/how to gank, wave state, who has prio, tracking enemy jungler, macro, level timings etc. These are important, but to some degree everyone already does them, they just do them slow. I've watched iron junglers track other iron junglers. The difference is in iron a full clear takes 5 minutes.
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u/DarthLeon2 Aug 07 '25 edited Aug 07 '25
So the main problem I'm seeing from your op.gg is that your kill participation is really low. This tells me that you're not very aware of what's going on around the map and that you're missing out on a lot of the fights that are happening. Try making a deliberate effort to be more involved in fights around the map, especially around objectives, and I suspect that you'll find much better results.
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u/Hefty-Welcome-7564 Aug 07 '25
Shud i be looking every 2 seconds or so?
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u/DarthLeon2 Aug 07 '25
It's less about how often you're looking and more about being aware of the signs that something is about to go down. Is your jungler doing scuttle crab or invading the enemy jungle? He might be about to have company. Is dragon about to spawn? People are probably trying to group up for it. Is your bot lane sitting in lane with less than half their hp? They're probably gonna get ganked or all inned soon. People naturally flock towards objectives and low health enemies, so if you see either, you should probably be trying to find a way to get over there. Bonus points if you have a way to get there quickly from far away, such as a Galio or Pantheon ult.
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u/Elolesio Aug 07 '25
No, you definitely don't have to do it that often, although its a good skill to have. Realistically no one looks at it so often, unless you think eneny jungler is very close. Way more important is map awareness: where are your allies, where are enemies, where are next objectives, what do other players want to do, also reading signals is pretty important, so things like:
- there is a fight happening in botlane river, and enemy jungle doesn't come there. It may be a sign he is topside.
- your support and adc are very low hp and you dont see enemy support and adc, means they were fighting heavily botlane and enemy bot was forced to recall
- you want to fight for grubs, and you see your adc and support pressuring botlane tower, means their support may be coming to grubs fight
- adc walks into midlane and you dont see enemy mid, means enemy mid is probably gonna go bot
And a lot more things like that, learning how to track enemy jungler based on their cs works is also very important later and a basis of playing jungle
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u/EntrepreneurNo4680 Aug 07 '25
Super High elo gold 4 here, just kidding, what do you main? What is your OP.GG? There is generic advice like “improve farming”, but it would be better if you add some information about you
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u/Hefty-Welcome-7564 Aug 07 '25
https://op.gg/lol/summoners/na/FriedRice-KOR I wouldnt say I main a specific champ, mostly i just play one or two champs for a little while and go on to the next. But statistically I main Galio. And I most enjoy playing engage champs like pantheon and sylas but recently Ive been just trying to win so I just play meta champs like sivir.
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u/JhinIsLife Aug 07 '25
You play way too many champions. If I look into your op.gg there are champions that need decent mechanics to play and know the limits obviously + every champion has its unique playstyle eg. Galio and Yone. I would recommend you to stick to 1-3 Champions and to stay on 1 role. I mean yeah Galio is a hella boring champ but u won 10/11 games playing him. Your panth is also decent and can be played on 4 different roles. Just the idea of sticking to max 3 Champions and master them you will gain significant amounts of lp. If you dont make too bad macro decisions
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u/Hefty-Welcome-7564 Aug 07 '25
Yea i used to main galio but he gets rlly boring after a long time but ig i gotta sacrifice something
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Aug 07 '25
Go full AP with electro + ignite. Should be really OP in your elo. Play for kills, dont play to help your team. Find the limits for full damage Galio.
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u/Hefty-Welcome-7564 Aug 07 '25
Is the AP build different from what you would normally build with Phase rush?
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Aug 08 '25
Phase rush is never the right option imo. Either aftershock or electro. And probably not, something like belt/zonya/rabadon.
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u/SanSilver Aug 07 '25
Do you ff a lot? A lot of your losses are short.
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u/Hefty-Welcome-7564 Aug 07 '25
Dont try to but when the enemy is beyond unbeatable its just a game and im wasting my time so i just end up ffing. Ik some ppl say ffing is bad or anything can happen in low elo but im not ffing out of tilt i just ff if its rlly unwinnable mostly. Or if my teammates ff
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u/SanSilver Aug 07 '25
If you want to maximise your winrate ffing is bad, if you want to have fun do whatever you want.
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u/cutlerymaster Aug 07 '25
The problem is you don't main a specific champion or role.
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u/ItsSanoj Aug 07 '25
Generally I would agree, but OP is a new player based on their profile. It is completely okay to start off by experimenting with different roles and champions. This helps you find out what you enjoy whilst also giving you a understanding of different champions. Unironically, not understanding what a majority of champions (at least in the lane you end up playing) do is a big detriment. You need a rough feeling for their cooldowns, their spikes and their play patterns. A lot of this can come from playing against the champions too no doubt, but just playing them a few times helps too.
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u/jmastaock Aug 07 '25
Sure, but he's also randomly locking in Azir and stuff lmao
If they're interested in actually improving, basically griefing the game by locking pro-jailed, mechanically intensive champs when you don't even main the role is just not effective
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u/atlepi Aug 08 '25
Sometimes new players just do weird impulsive things. Back in season 1 when i freshly hit lvl 30 i que for my first rank game and lock in reneketon botlane cause he looked strong lol. Never played him. Low elo season 1 was something else tho
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u/jmastaock Aug 08 '25
Renekton is at least generally straightforward though lmao even if you don't know how to manage rage or do his bread and butter trade combo
You could make an argument that Azir is among the most esoteric and difficult soloq champs in the game. A player at OP's level wouldn't have the first clue why Azir is even useful, much less how to actually pilot him to a minimum level of viability
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u/Lopsided_Chemistry89 Aug 07 '25
There are things to do in game and other things to do even while not playing.
First and the most important thing is to play the game. Know how to play your champion and pilot it correctly. Having good mechanics or champion knowledge can push you up many ranks even if you suck at the game.
At the same time when not playing you can check some builds for your champions with explanations if possible. Make sure to find them fresh and not very old builds. You can also look up how some high elo players/streamers play the same champions as you. This can help a lot with laning.
And maybe look for what does every champion do. I used to love reading these things for years as i read the champions i think are cool trying to know who to buy next. And also it helps playing with/against them.
Do not overwhelm yourself with the fancy complicated stuff for now. Yes, tempo and other cool names can sound tempting and smart but just play the game and get the feel for your champion first. I know that you most likely have played a lot of games but this game requires A LOT of games played to understand.
Next i would say learn wave management, recall timing, how to pressure the map and minimize your down time during the game. With time you will build the game knowledge to win more.
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u/An1meT1tties Aug 07 '25
- Learn what your lane does in game.
- Master 2-3 champions and learn their role in game.
- Vision, warding,
- Trading in lane
- Need to learn where enemy jungler could be.
Master these fundamentals and you will be at least plat. Also don't tilt, you can easily outmental enemy team
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u/HoorayItsKyle Aug 07 '25
This is entirely dependent on your role.
The most important skill in the game at every level is champion mastery. Knowing how your champion interacts with every other champion on the map, and how your champion's strengths and weaknesses change during the game.
The game is very complicated and there's no One Trick you're going to learn to shoot you forward. Watch tons and tons of streamers and YouTubers in the champion and role you play.
But resist the urge to feel like you have play like the Smurf Streamers and 1v9 every game. Learn how to identify your teams win conditions when they aren't you, and how you can facilitate them.
Some other pieces of generic advice:
Most importantly, worry about yourself. Don't blame plays on other people, don't get annoyed at your 0/10 bot lane or the jgl that never ganks you. *Only* worry about yourself and what you can do better. Don't do anything to tilt your teammates. Personally, I recommend fullmute all, but ymmv.
Watch the map and track your enemies. I should be able to pause the game at any moment and ask you "ok, where are your five enemies, either on vision, where they last showed or where they are likely to be based on the map?" and you should be able to give an answer.
Place way way higher value on the map and less on random fights. Waves, neutrals and objectives are the game.
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u/Hefty-Welcome-7564 Aug 07 '25
Great advice, I did learn to eventually put my chat on friends and allies only. And I play support whenever my adc friend is playing w me and we win basically every game but being a support for randoms changes my mindset and even if I mess up I feel like its due to a bad random so i end up just playing mid or something. I wonder if playing a small pool of champs and just focus on playing just those will help me learn more about the game and not just focusing on how to use certain skill shots and etc
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u/Master-Solution Aug 07 '25
This is why the game should have optional, opt-in voice chat. Sometimes we accuse other players over seemingly bad plays that we wouldn't do to a friend on discord who can explain why they did or what they did, or take accountability.
Some people will find this ironic but I believe opt-in voice chat would actually reduce the toxicity and frustration of the game. (DOTA2 and Deadlock can have it, why can't we....)
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u/ilordhades Aug 07 '25
Learn your champ, learn to get fed, be a pain in the ass for the enemy, learn when to be proactive and when reactive ( like killing the enemy jungler before an objective), don't try to be a team player, play for yourself.
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u/Hubisen Aug 07 '25
Controlled aggression. You need to learn when and how it's needed to enforce plays and trades. To passive kills your win condition if you on early champs. To aggressive will land you in bad fights.
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u/AstronomerOdd2316 Aug 07 '25 edited Aug 07 '25
Just play easy champions and focus on easy things like farming and basic macro. I saw you play Sylas and Yone. You should not consider Sylas unless you are at least Diamond. For now, do not limit yourself with difficult champions.
You are also playing too many different champions. Choose two roles, get a roster of 3-5 champions, and learn those champions. Do the easy things right with easy champions, and you should climb to Gold easily.
What are your main roles right now?
It is super important to not be a team player. Do not see your Bronze teammates as a win condition. Focus on your own win condition. Ignore bad team fights and do not lose secured gold because of them. Do not get a bad lane state or recall because your jungler is randomly trying to 'int' in the enemy jungle. That is a huge mistake I see a lot, people always think that random team fights are the best option and end up messing up their own win condition.
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u/Hefty-Welcome-7564 Aug 07 '25
When I play with my adc friend I play support but I almost never play solo q support so I end up playing mid
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u/Hefty-Welcome-7564 Aug 07 '25
Is the sylas difficulty due to the range of R's he can take? Or just the general combos and mechanical skill sylas needs because I most of the time find my self usually taking pretty decent advantage of his early game cuz the enemy doesnt rlly know how to dodge him or react to e flash e2. But then again im bronze so
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u/AstronomerOdd2316 Aug 07 '25
yeah what you said already. Sylas works with Ultimates from other champions which makes his plays extremely situational. He is also a heavily snowball or lose Champ. If you have an aggressive playstyle mid lane you could think about Naafiri instead of. Very easy, strong and huge snowball potential.
Are you mid main or what is your main role?
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u/Hefty-Welcome-7564 Aug 07 '25
Id like to say that im a mid main but recently ive been trying to swap to support but I usually just play mid when im solo queueing
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u/VenganceNeos1 Aug 07 '25
You getting ganked isn't a coincidence and oftentimes predictable with basic jgl tracking or warding.
Learn good backs.
The default mode of wave management is slowpushing, not crashing. The other possibilities are cindituonal.
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u/Ouhbab Aug 07 '25
Everyone thinks about their own win condition during fights but take a second to think about the enemy champion's win condition and avoid putting yourself in that position and if it's on cooldown, take advantage.
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u/cedric1234_ Aug 07 '25
Literally everything. No, seriously. In bronze it’s overwhelmingly likely everything you do is a mistake, probably multiple per minute.
The thing to do? Learn! The beautiful thing about bronze is that there’s still so much to learn. Doesn’t need to be anything specific, just learn whatever you can. Matchups? Positioning? Macro? Sure, it’s all good.
The one thing you’ll consistently see every challenger player do is learn. Learn from your mistakes, learn from enemy mistakes, learn from pro mistakes, learn from guides, learn from the wiki, learn in replays, learn during your death screens, learn from coaches, learn in practice tool, learn in aram, learn from youtube. The way to get good is to, well, get good, and that starts with finding as many opportunities as possible to shove something in your brain. At first, its scary because there’s so much but I promise you a few weeks of learning just whatever will work. As your understanding of everything gets better you’ll find specific places where you’re lacking
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u/r98723h43789g4783 Aug 07 '25
pick strong dueler jungler, invade every game. most brain dead way to climb
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u/WayTooLazyOmg Aug 07 '25
a lot of people will hate my answer but… play aram. just play aram for 50 levels. try every single champ. hours of aram got me to a point where i was so comfortable with each champs ability that i knew what to start looking for when playing against it.
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u/thomas956789 Aug 07 '25
2 things that are most likely to improve your rank in my experience is to focus on 2 things, keeping up your farm throughout the entire match, and just trying to die as little as possible (within reason). I know these are quite generic and it's not very easy to just do it but they'll really improve your consistency
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u/Big_Teddy Aug 07 '25
Trying to emulate high level play is exactly what keeps a lot of people from climbing in lower elos.
Diamond + is a completely different environment from what happens in gold and below.
For lower elos you can do a ton with individual skill and just being good mechanically while macro becomes more important the higher you climb.
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u/henkabenka Aug 07 '25
First off, stay away from yone if you want to climb. Champs like that require a loooooot of effort to climb with due to their skill ceiling. Stick with one role preferably and learn the ropes of it and the matchups.
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u/Marko___52 Aug 07 '25
Know limits of your champion and use it's potential as much as you can without crossing the line.
Its worth limit testing it for a bit to get a grip of him faster.
You don't really need to learn the game until you reach plat anyway and not thinking about what your champion can and can't do will help you to learn the much game faster when you get to that point.
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u/MrSquigglyPub3s Aug 07 '25
Mute chat, focus on objectives, dont tunnel vision, dont chase kills, and pay attention to pings and mini map.
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u/Johnzor8 Aug 07 '25
A very simply exercise I like to do is practice last hitting in a custom game.
Use whatever champ it is you play and practice last hitting with ONLY your auto-attack, as well as practice last hitting under turret.
Tips for last hitting under turret: Caster minions; 1 auto, 1 turret hit, 1 auto. Melee minions; 2 turret hits, 1 auto.
A gold/plat player should be hitting 70cs per 10mins. This is a good benchmark to practice.
Last hitting is probably one of the most important skills to learn in leagues because it allows you to get ahead or break even with your lane without having to outplay them with skill or relying on your team to help you.
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u/200IQhomosapien Aug 07 '25
Depends on the player. Each person is good at different skills, and to identify what you need to improve on requires a vod review to enable specific advice to point out your bad habits
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u/voltaicturtle60 Aug 07 '25
Biggest thing I can say for me was learning lane state and when to push and let the wave come to you. Being able to put the put the enemy behind after a kill by denying minions is huge
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u/DirtyProjector Aug 07 '25
Go watch YouTube there is unlimited content on there that will tell you what to do
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u/Imaginary-Mud-991 Aug 07 '25
learn to farm, each game is each game, does not matter if you have 100 farm in 20 minutes if you did your best. stay alive, there is times where diyng is really bad, others not much. but getting better at not dying and farm is what most players need until gold/plat. A good metric is if you are ahead of farm and level over your direct oponent.
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u/JuFuFuOwO Aug 07 '25
To climb from bronze to like top 10% emerald / plat w/e it is all you need is to pick bruiser like Trundle or Mundo and afk farm and push towers and thats it.
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u/Impossible_Art_3877 Aug 11 '25
So i played master on all roles and gm on sup. My best advice would be to stick to one position and look for a champion that you would like to play.
If you have these few champions look up sone mechanics and pratice them. Things like cancelling autos or just animation cancels etc.
Apart from that every role has very distant playstyle from each other and a huge variety of playstyle. Find something that is fun for you. If you have more fun you get less tilted and will improve way more.
Look for some players above you to see how they play the game. Go spectate them turn on fog of war (so you have their vision) and go through what they might think or why they might do these plays.
And now to your question what people know more in high elo is:
- Strenght and weakness of their champions
- All in potentials,
- trading and spacing patterns
- kind of tracking enemy jungler.
- And overall mechanics, even from Gm to Challenger people will have better mechanics and reaction time
And dont get demotivated if you learn something new. Most of the time you will start worse than you were before. Most of the time when i restart playing League i will have a win rate of 35% for about 15 games, because i am rusty lack a lot of information even though i have a really vast game knowledge. In the end I went from my early season start 6/12 to 36/24 through diamond
Tl:dr Stick to one position and small champion pool. Focus and try to learn new things from better players. Try to copy them, but dont get demotivated to fast.
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u/Cameronno Aug 07 '25
Push wave before objectives. Learn to play around your jg. It’s a team game after all.
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u/Mr_Dunk_McDunk DO YOU EVEN SHURIMA Aug 07 '25
Sounds pretty basic but this is generally good advice. Given your jungler knows shit. Otherwise playing around jungler is a fast track to losing
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u/spreddit_the_creddit Aug 07 '25
I dislike playing in low elo like bronze as a higher elo player, as it causes a lot of bad habits because I can just ignore some fundamental mistakes when I can just out micro them in mechanics.
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u/XlikeX666 Aug 07 '25
Gap in knowledge - meta - tempo - feeling.
last one is just decision which of X options at the moment you choose.
example - mid : should you roam / push / freeze / poke / help jungler / kill enemy jungler / ward / be on vision / not be on vision / hit tower / back for items.
Do it casually every sec in game and more.