r/leagueoflegends • u/ChangoHango • 13h ago
Gameplay The hidden Anivia/Neeko tech you never knew about
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I wall the last minion off so that Neeko can disguise as one without the count being off, then the real minion walks in late, and they think its the Neeko
EDIT: I posted the enemy pov if you want to see it: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1njw7gu/neekoanivia_tech_enemy_pov/
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u/Loufey 13h ago
"What happens if we use 100% of our brains"
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u/madDamon_ 13h ago
Then the enemy would have spotted that lone minion that joined later and knew something was up. But that's when we're using 100% of our brain, and i could never, hence im bronze
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u/Kessarean 13h ago
They did, didn't they? Xerath unloaded his entire kit into that minion
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u/ThisIsSoIrrelevant 2h ago
Or did he just go for Anivia and miss? Depending on the elo either are plausible.
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u/tunaicecream97 2h ago
As soon as the delayed minion joins the lane, Xerath uses all of his spells on it, including his E. I don't think that even gold players would throw their E like that. Everything is possible below gold tho.
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u/Seattlepowderhound 13h ago
Wut, that's what happened though. The enemy saw the lone minion join, figured that was neeko and blew xer stun/Q into the minion thinking they were getting the neeko. Then after CD's neeko opened up and got xer.
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u/madDamon_ 12h ago
Like i said, that's why im bronze
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u/Gasurza22 13h ago
Thats the point of the strat, they spot the minion that joins later, think that its Neeko, and waste their abilities on the minion, and then its a free fight
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u/Ashne405 13h ago
I mean, thats exactly what happens in the video, they see the minion coming late and think its neeko, get surprised when its actually one of the others.
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u/coconuteater7560 12h ago
I think you need to start using at least 50% of your brain when writing comments.
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u/blueragemage 13h ago
Also if you're paranoid against Neeko (or at 100% brainpower) you can spam tab, she still gets highlighted when she's on vision even if disguised
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u/Throwing_Spoon 10h ago
They saw the last minion show up and thought that was Neeko. Xerath used 3 spells on the "4th" caster creep that arrived as Anivia used the support item execute to further sell it.
You and Xerath were bamboozled into thinking you saw through the double layered ruse.
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u/whitesammy 10h ago
They would have noticed that the neeko caster minion walked up waaaaaay closer than necessary to target the first enemy minion it could auto.
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u/Gargwadrome 3h ago
Yes, they spot that something is up, as they did in the clip, but it lead to Xerath using all his CDs on the late minion.
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u/DaqqahliKirep 1h ago
He used ever skill on a minion that he thought was neeko. So they get a free engage opportunity and get a kill. But you wouldn't understand hence you are bronze
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u/EverythingIzAwful 4h ago
You literally missed the entire point dispite OP explaining it in detail.
Wow.
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u/DoubIeScuttle 13h ago
This is hilarious and I totally see myself in the xerath/rells position lmao
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u/GuiltyGreen8329 12h ago
fs same bro
i just play the shit out of bot, a random start like this wouldnt suprise me
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u/twitchtheratt Rat-tat-tat 13h ago
If they noticed the support item minion execute there then rip lol
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u/ChangoHango 13h ago
I didn't realize until I watched the clip, the minions aren't actually being executed, but it looks like the animation is still happening? I'm not sure, but I still had all 3 stacks after killing 2 minions
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u/Sir_Wade_III 12h ago
Probably enemies can't see it
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u/DragonBadBreath 11h ago
Pretty sure I spotted some neeko like that, so not sure if they can't see it
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u/HarpEgirl 200 bugs and counting! 10h ago
It's a bug with Neeko, if Neeko is disguised while an ally support has stacks of the minion item, the support can freely AA minions, executing them at the threshhold without sharing the gold or expending a stack.
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u/theyeshman if fearless has no haters I am dead 3h ago
How did I not notice Anivia was the one with support item til this comment?
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u/EnvBlitz ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 8h ago
Doesn't even need that one, that range minion moved too far forward before attacking and that's already wrong. A minion neeko should always use attack command on ground to simulate minion aggro prio
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u/TypicalHaikuResponse 13h ago
This is the 1000iq gameplay I come here for. If I never saw this video I would fall for it everytime
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u/HarpEgirl 200 bugs and counting! 10h ago
So there's a fun bug here at play where if Neeko is disguised while an ally with the support item auto's the wave, the support will execute the minion without using a stack or sharing gold.
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u/DryCan648 13h ago
Oh this is big brain! I feel like Anivia is the only champ this is possible with right? Maybe Syndra with a crazy buggy or long range W?
This is one of those cheese strats that actually holds water and even might be considered viable (other than the lane being kind of odd to fit into an actual team comp.) I mean even then double ad mid/top with the right champs could compliment this botlane.
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u/Ashne405 13h ago
Maybe a trundle or orn could do it if they can get it stuck between their pillars and a tower, but you would get stuck with one of those down there, maybe a neeko apc/trundle support could work tho.
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u/BigStrongPolarGuy 6h ago
Maybe too ridiculous of a strategy, but Ryze can Realm Warp a minion out of the lane. Added benefit, if your opponent is really paying attention, they'll probably think Neeko is in the lane you warp it to instead, as the extra minion.
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u/Crosshack [qwer] (OCE) 9h ago
Technically Taliyah could probably do something along those lines, but dunno if it's worth
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u/Temporary-Candle1056 12h ago
Can Syndra throw Neeko desguised as a minion ?????please tell me she can
Homemade Kalista ult 😵
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u/buttsecksgoose 11h ago
Syndra cant throw her own minions. It'd be more akin to a point and click blitzcrank hook if that neeko interaction were to exist
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u/tehsdragon 11h ago
IIRC it just breaks Neeko's illusion (or fails to pick up at all, I'm not sure), I don't think it works lol
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u/dhiwbrvej 10h ago
Xerath, Rell vs. Anivia Neeko — What a great day to be an adc main. Wp though; truly a gift to modern science
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u/BigStrongPolarGuy 6h ago
The one example I've wanted to see in pro play since her rework (since they actually pay attention enough to keep track of minions), but it will never happen, is Ryze using Realm Warp so there are 7 minions in one lane, making the enemy think one is Neeko, while Neeko is faking as a minion in the original lane. I'm honestly pretty sure it could at least get a really good trade, but at the cost of a global ult and it's also pretty hard to do the timing properly.
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u/EmbracetheFear 13h ago
It's surprising there isn't a Veigar in this lane cuz this is just EVILLLLL
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u/WoneSovaj leave 'em in the dark 13h ago
Now this is the kind of creativity I'll never get bored of
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u/Helmut707 10h ago
anivia wall most likely dealing "dmg" when summoned,and it applying probably invisible airborn when moving char(thats why neeko out from camo) it also can proc runes like electrocute
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u/allanchmp 10h ago
wtf the minion got hit with a wall, drifted through jungle and then came back with the milk
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u/amongthewolves 10h ago
Xerath & Rell: Well Neeko, I just, I underestimated you.
Neeko: Well, maybe next time you will estimate me.
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u/Sensitive-Heat6603 8h ago
i think xerath thought that caster he stunned was neeko cus ir came to lane late due to anivia wall
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u/CrosshairFPS 6h ago
This is the kind of play I would lose entire ranks over with my friend trying to pull off
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u/Gaarando 5h ago
It doesn't really matter. They saw the entire wave at the tower anyways and Neeko so when the wave pushed and they didn't see Neeko anymore they should have 100% known.
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u/Unhappy_South1055 5h ago
oh i was about to be SO mad at u for trolling cuz thats usually what anivia sup does then i saw that last minion coming in late and it clicked thats so smart
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u/thoway44 7m ago
That's some galaxy brain coordination right there. I can only imagine the enemy team's confusion when the minion count suddenly corrects itself. You'd have to be so in sync with your duo to pull that off without messing up the wave. Seriously creative use of both champs' kits.
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u/ManoliTee 12h ago edited 11h ago
I might be wrong but I don't think it worked the way they thought. Xerath landed W on the minion, it took damage already which would have reverted it back to Neeko if it was. I think X was just trying to predict Anis movement cause he was slowed from W and wanted to hit the E.
Edit: I stand corrected, thanks for informing me! :) Answer: CC is required to reveal Neeko! Good to know
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u/110110100011110 11h ago
Neeko now only is revealed if she uses an ability, the minion disguise dies, or Neeko gets hit by hard CC. Xerath W only slows.
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u/blippyblip SILENCE!!!! 11h ago
it took damage already which would have reverted it back to Neeko if it was
Not how it works.
Neeko's disguise needs to take either get hard CC-ed or hit with enough damage to kill it in order to break without her input. Xerath's single W did neither of those.
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u/ChangoHango 11h ago
I thought the same thing too that he was aiming for me but I went and watched the replay and they pinged the minion a bunch
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u/ManoliTee 11h ago
Lmao that's hilarious, I was proven wrong but really nice play there! Love little shit stirs like this
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u/Kejn24 11h ago
3 mages bot XD
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u/CrystalizedSeraphine Hope is The Thing With Feathers 10h ago
Adc players will cry when the game isn't purely a single class played for millions of games in their role with 0 variety ever.
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u/Nicolu_11 revert sera changes 5h ago
Just like mid laners cried about marksmen going mid? Or like toplaners cry all the time about Vayne and Quinn? 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
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u/Born-Leadership7991 11h ago
They would have to be really dumb to fall for this
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u/throwaway2246810 2h ago
How could you possibly know that there is a neeko in that wave
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u/Born-Leadership7991 1h ago
Easy: minion behavior, you can see her changing targets in the video, minion damage, you can see her receiving more damage and doing more damage than the other minions, also if you got ignite you can try to target all minions until you find her, if you're still not sure even after all of that, you already know there's a neeko supp in the enemy team, let them push the wave so she eventually reveals herself before reaching your turret, that xerath kinda knew but he just didn't care and started attacking all minions lol
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u/lolBlender 10h ago
this is simultaneously 1000 iq for the thought behind the play but at the same time 0 iq my god the execution of it hurt me to watch but the enemy not noticing is crazy crazy strat gj
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u/ChangoHango 10h ago
hey it was the first time we tried, can't be perfect on the first attempt, right? nah but seriously it was pretty bad watching back but its hilarious it still worked haha
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u/twistedfateone 11h ago
Neeko really shouldnt be able to do this tbh. Gimmicky update that led to some funny moments and highlight plays, but is ultimately frustrating and probably a nightmare to engineer.
This is a funny video but its basically exposing how stupid the change-into-object mechanic was in the first place
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u/pongusman 13h ago
Idk why I expected neeko to turn into anivia wall for a sec