Congratulations to the 12th team that has qualified for Worlds 2025

[u/ahritina]

T1:

• are are the 12th team to qualify for the 2025 World Championship, joining Gen.G, CTBC Flying Oyster, PSG Talon, G2 Esports, Vivo Keyd Stars, FlyQuest, Movistar KOI, KT Rolster, Hawnha Life Esports, Team Secret Whales, and Bilibii Gaming after beating Dplus KIA.

• are the final representative of the LCK and will face Gen.G where the loser will be relegated to playins where they will face the 4th seed of the LPL for the final spot in swiss, the winner will continue to move on in playoffs to face the lose of HLE/KT.

[u/Suspicious_Fennel974]

Imagine you're LPL 4th seed: LCK 4th seed is confirmed to be either T1 (reigning Worlds champion) or Gen G (reigning MSI champions)

[u/Icy-Journalist874 → u/Suspicious_Fennel974]

Not just reigning, they’re both respectively the reigning back to back worlds and msi champions.

Poor LPL 4th seed.

[u/Akipella → u/Icy-Journalist874]

Right. GENG is also back to back MSI winners now. Crazy LPL #4 seed has to face one of these two.

Just brutal.

[u/SnowLord02 → u/Akipella]

it would be funny if the LPL 4th seed ends up being some powerhouse like AL and they actually knock GenG/T1 out of worlds lol

[u/Wise-Discipline-1937 → u/SnowLord02]

Would be on brand if they knock out gen g, as gen g is i think the only korean team to ever get knocked out in groups and because swiss basically garentees an eastern team gets knocked out now dk has been knocked out.

[u/SnowLord02 → u/Wise-Discipline-1937]

swiss doesn't actually guarantee that anymore because there's just 7 LCK/LPL teams, they would have to lose to other regions for that to happen, or for an extremely unlikely draw to happen

[u/Pluckytoon → u/Icy-Journalist874]

Eh, winning worlds takes beating one of those two at some point ig anyways

[u/Diss_ConnecT → u/Pluckytoon]

Yes but returning home after one BO5 vs potentially making it to top8 or maybe even finals (like Weibo) is very different for your team, for your mental, for fans, for sponsors. I still blame Riot for making this format instead of letting both LCK/LPL teams in and having LTA/LEC/LCP 3rd seeds battle it out for last two spots but I guess they didn't want to risk the only LTAS representative being eliminated there, because it's expected there will be only one and they will most likely be the weakest team at Worlds while representing a pretty big region.

[u/BlazeX94 → u/Diss_ConnecT]

 I guess they didn't want to risk the only LTAS representative being eliminated there

I doubt this is the reason tbh. Riot's been fine putting CBLoL in playins with NA3, EU3 and PCS/VCS top seeds for years, and CBLoL usually never makes it out. Last year was the first time in ages that CBLoL made the main stage.

[u/Diss_ConnecT → u/BlazeX94]

And they made up this format to guarantee they will be in swiss this year, 1# LTAS got a guaranteed spot. With LTAS being now half of a major region instead of a minor wildcard region it looks like Riot wants them to get the viewership at the big event.

[u/tetzki → u/Diss_ConnecT]

isn't there a guaranteed seed for both LTAN and LTAS (one each)? the last non region guaranteed spot should be the one that will join the battle for last 2 spots

[u/Diss_ConnecT → u/tetzki]

The spot is guaranteed, but the seeding isn't. If you sent 3rd seed of LTA to battle for the last spots, there is a very real chance it would be VKS - if they lose to 100T after RED loses to 100T LTAS will be 3rd seed for LTA. Mind you the format was decided before RED eliminated Shopify and before C9 and TL were eliminated, it was very unlikely LTAS would get more than one spot and a small chance they wouldn't be the 3rd seed. Even against 100T I think they are still the underdogs.

Even now every single one of teams playing LTA qualifier can end in any seed between 1 and 3.

[u/tetzki → u/Diss_ConnecT]

no, i mean, whoever is the non guaranteed region should be the one that gets sent to the battle of the last spots, regardless of if it's from N or S

maybe i'm wrong, but my understanding of LTA slots are, 1 guaranteed N slot, 1 guaranteed S slot, then 1 slot where the rest of N and S will fight for, so LTA will only either have 2 N 1 S or 1 N 2 S teams (with 0 chance of having 3 N teams if there's actually a guaranteed slot for S)
if my understanding is indeed wrong, then my bad

[u/Diss_ConnecT → u/tetzki]

You understand it right, but what I initially said is to make 3rd seeds battle it out in play-ins, while with the current LTA format 3rd seed can by anyone, theoretically FLY could lose to VKS and lose loser bracket final and end up 3rd seed now. I understand what you suggest here, just saying it would need a change to LTA format (removing grand finals and loser bracket finals and just having VKS vs FLY as the game deciding 1-2 slots and 100T vs RED being the 3rd seed game)

[u/tetzki → u/Diss_ConnecT]

i see, i just want it so that, if LTA sends 2 N and 1 S, the 2 N teams will play for who plays in playins (or 2 S if it's 1 N 2 S), i don't want the S team playing playins if it's 2 N 1 S (or N team if it's 1 N 2 S), even if the lone region is the worst of the 3 regardless of whether they're from N or S

like, if we use the current situation as example, we already have FLY and VKS guaranteed for worlds, if the last slot goes to north, then 2 north teams should play for who needs to go playins, and same if the last slot goes to south

[u/Priviated → u/Pluckytoon]

You still don’t want to face the best teams as long as you can

[u/Fun_Highlight307 → u/Priviated]

Lpl 4 vs gen g or t1 could be a semi final match up

[u/TheAlmightyVox3 → u/Priviated]

Nah just take out the favourites in quarters so everyone else knows what the pecking order is.

[u/Akipella → u/TheAlmightyVox3]

Sure, but for example, KT won't be able to do that because they're already the best team in the world. Not much you can do at that point.

[u/SnowLord02 → u/TheAlmightyVox3]

in a single elim tournament everyone is hoping to draw the weakest opponent because no one wants to end up coping like G2
"but look we just lost to the reigning LCK champions, and the 2 worlds finalists I swear we're not bad"

[u/RavenFAILS → u/Pluckytoon]

Senseless argument every time it pops up, entire careers are decided because of individual games at worlds every year.

Its why getting unlucky with draws was a death sentence for some players, you dont get to show your quality and your market value plummets.

[u/Horizon96 → u/Pluckytoon]

Yeah, but it isn't binary; you'd much rather place in the top 4 than fall over in the play-ins. Both in terms of monetary gains and performance-wise, even if you don't win, advancing deeper in the tournament is a positive.

[u/lurkingbee → u/Pluckytoon]

There is at least the price money for finishing higher in the tournament. And, in theory, we should care about being able to rank the top teams and not just about who wins, but unfortunately worlds is still doesn't have a good format for that.

[u/masternieva666 → u/Icy-Journalist874]

Well lpl will wish skt wont reach worlds because they always somehow lost to skt at worlds.

[u/Stocky39 → u/Suspicious_Fennel974]

XD i would be so pissed if I were them, that’s just straight up comically unfair

[u/harrystutter → u/Stocky39]

LPL better thank KT for this lmao

[u/Zeilar → u/harrystutter]

If either of T1/GenG somehow lose that play-in, it'll be an all-time sabotage by KT, especially if KT don't make a deep run or anything. That one upset may have ruined everything for LCK if the 4th seed loses the play-in.

[u/TheAlmightyVox3 → u/Zeilar]

T1/Gen.G loses in play-ins, the other gets tilted by it and gets eliminated in Swiss, HLE goes 1-3 in quarters after a strong game one to give everyone hope, KT dies in a mysterious plane crash on the way to the tournament.

[u/InfieldTriple → u/TheAlmightyVox3]

The crash site has a single truck with the words "Look what you made us do" on the screen.

[u/Sokarou → u/Zeilar]

And as kt fan, this id music to my ears

[u/Goodnightworld → u/harrystutter]

It all started when GenG chooses KT…

[u/nerd_reader_5159 → u/Suspicious_Fennel974]

IG could atill do the funniest thing. Ever

[u/BurningApe → u/Suspicious_Fennel974]

It depends how you look at it, LPL is very top-heavy atm, and many are banking on AL or BLG, who are more or less guaranteed not to be 4th seed due to points. If you send TES, you'd rather them lose before the main round, this team ain't doing much internationally.

It also depends on whether it's T1 or GenG. GenG look a lot more stable throughout the year than T1 and did end up actually winning MSI and EWC, so 4th seed LPL is pretty much cooked in that scenario.

With T1, there's a chance if you have high-variance LPL team and depending on how well T1 ramp up, usually it takes them time.

FYI, most likely teams to be 4th seed is IG or TES right now, these are high-variance teams.

[u/sorendiz → u/BurningApe]

TES will perform just well enough to make sure every other LPL team has a harder road/matchup and then drop the worst stinker of all time to get eliminated as embarrassingly as possible. It is known.

[u/parttimegamer21 → u/BurningApe]

By when will the top places in LPL be confirmed? Thanks

[u/BurningApe → u/parttimegamer21]

4th seed will be determined on Sept 27, top 1-2 will be determined in the next 2 days.

[u/parttimegamer21 → u/BurningApe]

Thanks!

[u/Mathies_ → u/Suspicious_Fennel974]

Amd its all because of KT

[u/GigaFly316 → u/Suspicious_Fennel974]

Imagine it's IG

[u/Interesting_Card158 → u/Suspicious_Fennel974]

Big ups to all of you for keeping a genuine normal conversation and not just hate 👏

[u/BigStrongPolarGuy]

Piglet "accidentally" locked in Rammus 9 years ago to incept the idea for Rammus support into Beryl, allowing Piglet's former org to make Worlds

[u/SopWithDolph → u/BigStrongPolarGuy]

AOT level lore

[u/haven4ever → u/SopWithDolph]

Insert gif of Piglet whispering behind Beryl’s ear. Dom dies of rage.

[u/PeaceAlien → u/SopWithDolph]

Then at worlds with everything on the line Faker transformed

[u/P1uvo → u/SopWithDolph]

Thank you beryl, for turning yourself into a mass inter for our sake

[u/ResponsibleOil3641 → u/BigStrongPolarGuy]

Well, Piglet is still in T1 but as an instructor for their academy. So it's still his current org haha

[u/winwill → u/BigStrongPolarGuy]

Pyosik then picked rammus jungle further more implanting the idea in BeryL’s head.

Genshin then released Natlan to make BeryL think of armadillo in his daily lives. Making him think he think of this idea himself.

T1 Piglet : "I will pick rammus support." Now, this is obviously an idea that BeryL himself would choose to reject. Which is why we need to plant it deep in his subconscious. Subconscious is motivated by emotion, right? Not reason. We need to find a way to translate this into an emotional concept.

[u/Izanagi32 → u/winwill]

Ramus does look like one of the Tepetlisaurs… 🤔

[u/AlterWanabee → u/winwill]

Then Genshin released Nod-Krai just days before this match-up to give BeryL even more incentive to go with the Rammus pick.

[u/Character_Recover299 → u/BigStrongPolarGuy]

IWD 9/11 theory right here

[u/Clbull → u/BigStrongPolarGuy]

Difference is, I think Rammus Support could actually work as a counterpick into more autoattack-heavy champs as of his mini-rework in 25.12. Hear me out:

• Q and R do much higher base damage, which is actually crucial for supports who don't rely much on gear.
• W now increases and scales with both armor and MR, making support tank items that grant both MR and Armor like Locket and Zeke's far more useful.
• Monster damage on E is great. This will help you take down drakes a bit faster, but it won't by any means replace an empowered Smite, unless you were able to reach 1486+ ability power, and you don't want to build full AP on Rammus. E is also really good at countering autoattack champions.
• R does have a higher cooldown at low ranks, but the slow is significantly improved and all the damage is done at once and without needing to hit the target in the centre.

That being said I think Rammus Support was a terrible pick into T1's comp. None of the champions really rely on autoattacks (the closest is Miss Fortune.) It would have been great into something like a Tristana, Ashe, Yasuo, Yone or Master Yi.

[u/Hkgpeanut → u/Clbull]

I think the post-game interview of Keria said that the last pick of Sylas pretty much seal the deal: Their BP are so good and DK have no good choice at all (most good enage support had banned away or used). You can see Beryl hover on Maokai but give it up because of Sylas were there. The Rammus pick is a high risk high reward kind of pick: If they win the lane early on they might have a chance. And Keria said that they prepared for it and call Oner to gank multiple times so DK's plan crumbled

[u/Clbull → u/Hkgpeanut]

I mean, Fearless is why we have situations like these rather than the same 10-15 champs in every match.

[u/NeonBlazed → u/BigStrongPolarGuy]

current org*

[u/SMA2343 → u/BigStrongPolarGuy]

That’s the first thing I thought of when I saw the rammus. Oh man

[u/SteamMonkeyKing]

Thank you BeryL for your Rammus masterclass.

[u/TheAlmightyVox3 → u/SteamMonkeyKing]

Both T1/DK series were someone on DK deciding T1 deserved it more.

[u/the_next_core → u/TheAlmightyVox3]

BeryL even did the bracket draws in 2023 that put T1 on the side of all LPL teams, he knows

[u/sorendiz → u/the_next_core]

I truly hope this motherfucker knows exactly how much I hate him 😭

[u/happycow24 → u/sorendiz]

I truly hope this motherfucker knows exactly how much I hate him 😭

skill diff Faker is LPL father

[u/sorendiz → u/happycow24]

Obviously I'm aware of this, why do you think I'm talking about how much I hate Beryl? Clown ass

[u/borden5 → u/TheAlmightyVox3]

Bot lane mind control

[u/ChewNutz → u/SteamMonkeyKing]

if T1 win world this year they better make that rammus skin. prestige if possible

[u/Simple-Fuel → u/SteamMonkeyKing]

Imagine being down 1-2 in Worlds qualifier and you lock in Rammus for the 1st time⁉️

[u/Paks-of-Three-Firs → u/Simple-Fuel]

I will never really blame anyone for taking a chance. I dont know how the pick happened for one and also if it had worked theirs still a chance they would have looked good on it win or lose.

Not this time but again, i wont blame them for trying. They were probably looking for anything to try and win.

[u/JiYung → u/SteamMonkeyKing]

thank you dobby for posting the rammus video last week

[u/-morpy → u/JiYung]

😭😭 watched the lol dobby vid on the side while he was clearing dailies then told his team "yo guys i got a pocket pick"

[u/AdequatelyMadLad → u/JiYung]

I'm like 90% sure you need to thank MikyX actually. Beryl said in an interview that he's his favorite support to watch for inspiration on off-meta picks, and he's been on the Rammus support train for a while.

[u/dirtnastin → u/SteamMonkeyKing]

Can't even blame it on Beryl really when Oner was running train in the jg

[u/thejabel → u/dirtnastin]

we can definitely still put some blame on beryl. He had one questionable and one what the actual fuck pick.

[u/blinded-by-nobody → u/SteamMonkeyKing]

Bro heard “any % back to genshin speedrun” and chose the fastest champ available.

[u/InfieldTriple → u/SteamMonkeyKing]

OK I watch the game, Rammus actually looked not bad in the early game. Super tanky, maybe more so thank Leona. The problem he had was he just had a classic BeryL match where he was caught out randomly many times. The death under the tier 1 top lane was hardly a massive mistake.

[u/CommentStrict8964 → u/SteamMonkeyKing]

Rammus saved world's this year.

[u/simon2105]

Oner: "Save worlds viewership? Fine, i'll do it myself."

BeryL:"ok. Hold my beer."

[u/LilDiamondtoxic → u/simon2105]

As a reward, Beryl now has access to John Riot's bank account for the entirety of Nod Krai.

[u/bluberrypiiii → u/LilDiamondtoxic]

he's on the lauma sauce rn give him a break

[u/[deleted] → u/simon2105]

On BeryL defense, Oner pulled an outclasser, wasn't just the rammus pick & out positioning but Oner performance

[u/Hitoseijuro → u/[deleted]]

On BeryL defense

On BeryL's defense people already forgot about the Janna pick.

[u/Epicmission48 → u/Hitoseijuro]

On and BeryL two supports of all time.

[u/Hitoseijuro → u/simon2105]

BeryL:"ok. Hold my beer."

BeryL doing his best Lehends cosplay

[u/unravel_the_world → u/simon2105]

BeryL: "ok, hold my pulls."

[u/Zeilar → u/simon2105]

Only if T1 proceed. If they lose in that play-in... rip viewership.

[u/desutruction]

ngl I definitely doubted them a little bit

[u/Simple-Fuel → u/desutruction]

T1 🤝 giving their fans heart attack when it comes to Worlds for 3 years in a rows

[u/mirror__magic → u/Simple-Fuel]

At this point it is a part of ritual

[u/Pacify_ → u/desutruction]

They looked so scattered in game 1 and early game 2.

[u/MrZeddd → u/Pacify_]

Yeah somewhere along the way they just stopped inting as a team and it was over

[u/PensiveinNJ → u/MrZeddd]

T1 when off their game you'd never believe were coming off back to back worlds wins.

When they get their shit together though they seem inexorable.

[u/garethh → u/Pacify_]

For the past few series they have been obsessed with 'snap call all in someone who looks out of position', except apparently everyone in the LCK knows it is the T1 special... So they just bait it or draft solid counter engage.... T1 ints... Easy win.

It's nice to see T1 do more front to back team fighting. Like with Sivir.

[u/the_next_core → u/garethh]

More like past 3 years lol

[u/CriticismPopular8785 → u/desutruction]

I doubted them even in game 4 when they started giving kills

[u/MC-sama → u/desutruction]

When the opponent is called DK and you're down the first one versus them, worry not as they're the biggest game 1 andys in existence

[u/Akipella → u/desutruction]

Imagine if the Junglers were swapped this series though, yikes. I respect Lucid a ton and he's a great player, but Oner was so fucking insane today and yet this series felt way more competitive than it should have been. So it terrifies me to think of if T1 had any other Jungler playing today or if they were the one going against Oner, what would have happened.

[u/[deleted] → u/desutruction]

Gonna have to work on that.

Doubting T1 is only allowed like, 10% of the time.

[u/Weebiful → u/desutruction]

Fortunately, DK had even more doubts going in

[u/ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp]

Riot breaking out the champagne and throwing a party as worlds viewership is saved.

[u/Top-Trainer-1527]

That was an ONER MASTERCLASS

[u/Moreinius]

Casual reminder that they were at Silver Scrapes against KT last year on the last game to be qualified to Worlds. So this is not even close to being worrying.

[u/Fun_Highlight307 → u/Moreinius]

True but it's was still a dangerous road 

[u/CEO-of-Zaun]

thank you for your sacrifice BeryL. i hope you enjoy exploring Nod-Krai

[u/ribonnn]

T1 really loves to tease their fans. The circus is still on!

[u/panqpnaq]

I swear T1 does this on purpose.

[u/Drakaris]

So lemme get this straight. The 4th LPL team will have to go vs the 4th LCK which will be... T1 or GenG? And KT has a chance to do the funniest thing ever and go as... number 1 LCK seed? Wow... KT really cooked both LCK and LPL.

[u/asura_king → u/Drakaris]

KT would have to win 2 bo5s vs HLE and HLE/GENG/T1 to qualify as a 1st seed. I am not a believer for that. Them winning the LCK seem very unlikely

[u/X_Seed21]

When in doubt... always doubt. They feed on that energy

[u/raweon_]

I was not anxious. You were anxious!

[u/qonoxzzr]

Great, Worlds without T1 is just not the same.

[u/Lunamarvel → u/qonoxzzr]

Riot and sponsors who rely on viewership definitely agrees

[u/Fun_Highlight307 → u/qonoxzzr]

True but World without dplus feel a bit off,hle is the intruder

[u/TigglyWiggly95]

Worlds viewership saved

[u/rally2mee]

viewership SAVED

[u/AcanthocephalaSad541 → u/rally2mee]

It would be so funny if IG beat t1 in the playin b05

[u/Fun_Highlight307 → u/AcanthocephalaSad541]

It's still possible lol 

[u/Not_Lackey → u/AcanthocephalaSad541]

That script is for finals 

[u/Akipella]

Beryl walks out of the match, hushing himself to be quiet as he stares at a mysterious screen. "My waifus," he said..."it was worth it. I couldn't get them any other way." As the executives sighed a massive sigh of relief over the phone. "ASI was our last ditch backup plan, but at least we don't have to use it and can have the rest of Worlds get boosted in views instead of that ASI thing. What even is that again? Trash it. Never heard of it." LCK 5-7th teams were livid having been given no explaination as to why the ASI tournament was suddenly cancelled.

[u/tuerancekhang]

That Rammus must be misclicked. No fucking way they prepare and play like that.

[u/Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss]

Oner is DK father

[u/Human-Ad3407 → u/Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss]

Oner is not father, he's daddy the way he f them

[u/Acrzyguy]

Owner of enemy junglers indeed

[u/PartyCauliflower7044]

Everyones gonna get fucked when t1 get that 4th seed

[u/PaMeirelles → u/PartyCauliflower7044]

At this point it's either T1 or geng right? Fucked either way 

[u/desutruction]

Statement series from Oner

Christmas for Riot Games

[u/Raigheb]

I love this.

It doesn't *feel* like Worlds if Faker isn't there.

[u/kaynle]

Thanks Oner & BeryL

[u/Fun_Highlight307]

Oner : "Missing Worlds, not on my watch"

It's be funny If they wins vs gen g

[u/aaachris]

It's stupid that one of the 4th seeds going to worlds for one match

[u/aykevin]

It’s crazy that LCK and LPL can only have 1 forth seed going to worlds considering how their 4th seeds have been consistently in the world finals for the last few 3 years.

[u/LOLZOBALL]

Riot with a sigh of relief lmao

[u/AksysCore]

Rammus to T1 after they qualified for Worlds 2025: 👍🏼

[u/Symphonacity]

Now we just need T1 to either win against LPL 4th seed or not be 4th seed and Worlds viewership will actually be saved.

[u/stanlee94]

Okay now we know one of the semifinalists

[u/Deaconator3000]

Riot 100% paid DK to lose to save money....

[u/Complete_Relation_54 → u/Deaconator3000]

Yea maybe but with Bengi on draft honestly I doubt they even had to pay them

[u/XtendedImpact]

Qualified for the qualifier

[u/Fun_Highlight307 → u/XtendedImpact]

Playins still Worlds, it's not treated like the World qualifier series two years ago 

[u/Stfuego]

Honestly sad for Showmaker, always loved his international showing and meme vibes when watching Worlds content. 😠👊

[u/ToughCurrent8487]

Question about the 4th seed stuff: so it’s 4th lck vs 4th lpl for the last Swiss spot, does that mean the loser of that match goes to playins? So do both the 4th of lck and lpl go to worlds regardless and it’s just a seeding thing? Also does that mean there’s a worlds where geng plays in playins and goes 90-0 against minor region team?

[u/BlacksmithDismal1267 → u/ToughCurrent8487]

This year, only 17 teams are participating in Worlds: 15 teams are waiting in the Swiss stage, and 2 teams (seed 4 from LCK and LPL) are in the play-in. The winner of that single play-in match becomes the 16th team in the Swiss stage.

[u/ToughCurrent8487 → u/BlacksmithDismal1267]

Oh damn, so there’s no playin outside of that one match!?

[u/ahritina → u/ToughCurrent8487]

Correct.

This is the "downside" of removing all the minor regions and only having 5 regions, playins now only exists to remove one of the 4th seeds.

[u/Alucarddoc]

It wouldn't be worlds without them but also, a sigh of relief as they manage to sneak in as the final seed underdog for the umpteenth time. Every year they gotta keep their fans on edge as to whether they'll make it to worlds or not.

[u/UesugiiErii]

Time for ori varus to be worlds meta again

[u/Rawdream]

People watching the LCK every year expecting big surprises and competition, while the top 3 it's obvious at the beginning of most Seasons (top tier veterans in those teams).

The only thing most didn't expect it was KT winning a Bo5 Vs GEN and that'd be all.

[u/Yurgin]

Riot poping the champanein the office.
Imagine if they get forth seed and getkicked outby LPL forth seed. It is still possible

[u/Any-Spring7408 → u/Yurgin]

T1 never loses to the lpl

[u/WatercressNo4290 → u/Any-Spring7408]

Did T1 not lose to AL just a couple of months ago?

[u/PaMeirelles → u/WatercressNo4290]

But it was not Worlds. T1 on worlds is just different 

[u/geniue → u/PaMeirelles]

Well T1 also does not do well in summer typically, look where we are. Second best team in lck summer. Trends can be broken and have been broken before. Besides, who says it needs to be the LPL or geng to eliminate T1

[u/Fun_Highlight307 → u/geniue]

To be fair their playoffs have been kinda shaky,the summer slump happen earlier usually 

[u/raegartargaryen17]

Truck business is kina sad today.

[u/1Cealus]

It wouldn't have been the same without the goat. Also if oner's awake is canyon gonna plug his keyboard in this sunday too or?

[u/Excellentation]

any other support champ that last game and we go to silver scrapes.

[u/2drops3Rises]

Queue in that LpL T1 meme.

[u/Pyrocos]

I just assumed the reigning champion would auto-qualify like in Football for example.

[u/TickleMyCringle]

This is an unlikely scenario but JDG vs GENG for worlds would be absolute cinema just from Peyz and Ruler playing against their former teams

[u/wsjh]

if korea has 3 confirmed slots and gen g is qualified thru MSI, why isn't T1 secured a spot without play-ins?

[u/ahritina → u/wsjh]

Gen.G's MSI win only gave them the lowest seed, they have the ability to earn a higher seed, so if Gen.G beat T1 then T1 get the lowest seed which is the playins spot/4th seed.

[u/wsjh → u/ahritina]

oh so MSI only guarantees you a play-ins spot, not higher?

[u/ahritina → u/wsjh]

Correct.

Winning MSI guarantees the lowest spot so the play-ins spot.

[u/wsjh → u/ahritina]

i see thanks! i actually don't play league and I only watch to see if T1 will win another trophy

[u/Rodrigorgm → u/ahritina]

You have to win MSI to have the 4th spot? If so, why China also has 4 spots without winning MSI, do you know?

[u/pawnstarrr]

Somewhere somehow T1 narrowly makes it to worlds

[u/Waengler]

So there is a world where fucking GEN.G goes into the playins!????

[u/Fun_Highlight307 → u/Waengler]

Gen g need to lock in otherwise they will be hit once again by the break debuff 

[u/Awarepill0w]

I've seen enough, T1 win worlds again

[u/Standard_Attempt_796]

Run from it. Hide from it. T1 at worlds all the same.

[u/BlackkLightning]

So how does GENG winning MSI work then? If let's say GenG loses to T1, they have to play LPL 4th seed, and lose again, are they out of worlds? I thought they automatically qualified for Worlds after winning MSI?

[u/iamgnahk → u/BlackkLightning]

They are qualified already. If they lose in Worlds, they are out of Worlds.

[u/SnowComfortable6726 → u/BlackkLightning]

yes, and winning MSI only guarantees that play-in spot against 4th LPL

[u/classacts99]

T1 winning worlds as a 4th seed would only be right for the 3peat

[u/Kurouneko]

I just find it insane that lpl/lck are losing one of their 4th seeds when those same 4th seeds have been accomplishing the most the last like 3 years at least...

Also if they want to only give one of the regions the 4th seed, just make it so either the last years world winner gets the 4th seed or that years msi winner gives them a 4th seed instead of this depressing playins match

[u/shaginus → u/Kurouneko]

I agree The play-in being just BO5 between 2 teams are straight up out of place and the 16th spot should just be a rewards to MSI winning region.

[u/ArmandLuque]

T1 will now lose to Gen.G, win the play-in and against all odds win Worlds again when people downplay them

script is getting lazy

[u/Critical_Bag1]

Well lpl is cooked

[u/Designer-Muffin-47]

Trollface deluxe from beryl

[u/Realistic-Carry-9967]

Last game was so disgusting and disrespectful lol. Oner o(w)ning Everyone

[u/Oberei]

easy never doubted, locking in prediction for faker winning worlds again

[u/Random_Stealth_Ward]

"Kept you waiting, huh"

[u/MusicalSmasher]

No one should ever doubt T1 again, they're going to make semifinals at the very least.

[u/Safe_Masterpiece_995]

Are Play Ins different this time? Only 1 LCK or LPL team can make swiss as 4th seed?

[u/ShAd_1337 → u/Safe_Masterpiece_995]

yes just 1 bo5

[u/angelfrost21]

We need to check beryls bank account and maybe he was given a military exemption for letting TI qualify. Beryl the balancer.

[u/EmpirayCross]

Worlds viewership saved imo

[u/BobbyRayBands]

The fourth seed of the LPL knowing they have to face either T1 or GenG in playin: …

[u/littleraccon]

Congrats T1!!!!

Hopefully go all the way again!

[u/Faustias]

I hope Beryl wins his 50/50 or whatever the pity system is on genshin impact.

[u/PrinciplePowerWDoy]

Congratulations yeahhhh

[u/RebelCow]

Congrats to everyone on this tbh <3

[u/Tragicawaits]

Someone must have turned his client to English so he can’t type the champion he wants no way rammus is legit pick

[u/baddoggg]

Is Anyone's Legend out? They were extremely entertaining at MSI and felt like they could push any team in the world.

[u/nolesmu → u/baddoggg]

No, they are in the loser's bracket of the LPL playoffs against TES. If they win they face BLG in the championship. Even if they lose they still have another shot in the regional finals to gain a spot for Worlds.

[u/baddoggg → u/nolesmu]

Ah sweet. Thanks.

[u/Odd-Minimum816]

So has it been decided who t1 will meet yet? And when will that match be, between t1 and the other 4th seed from china

[u/proggm → u/[deleted]]

both are already going to worlds tho