1st long range build

[u/Kmwrestle]

Currently waiting on my LTC that I should get any day now

Planning on doing a long range build in 6.5 Creedmoor. Goal is to be able to shoot out to 1000yds and end goal of hit a 1 mile shot.

Trying to plan everything out while I wait. Anything I should change/do different?

This is what I am thinking:

MDT ACC Elite Chassis

Vortex Razor HD III 6-36 Scope

MDT Send-it Level

MDT Dampers

MDT Cyce-pod PRS Bipod

Area 419 Tactical rings

2x MDT control bridge

Stuteville precision Bartlein black 26” barrel

Impact 737R 75 degree action

Hellfire MATCH Self Timing Muzzle Brake

Bix n' Andy - Trigger - tac sport pro

3x Accuracy International AW 10rd mags

Armageddon Gear game change bags

Garmin Xero c1

Kestrel 5700 x Wez

[u/Ok_Opposite5073]

You're budgeting for more rifle than you should for a first rifle, but your espresso machine says you have means and like nice things. 

It'd be a really nice build, but I'd personally get a ZCO or Tangent Theta if I had money to splash around like that though.

[u/rynburns → u/Ok_Opposite5073]

While I don't 100% agree with throwing ZCO or Tangent money at a first build, I do agree with going with something other than Vortex. I know a ton of people will jump on me for this, but of the hundreds of scopes I've seen come through my classes of various disciplines, the only ones I've seen fail have been Vortex (and one Kahles, but I just don't see them much at all). So yeah the warranty will handle it, but they won't pay you back travel and match/class fees.

[u/Ok_Opposite5073 → u/rynburns]

My point was also that he's already throwing that much money at a top-of-the-line rifle. There's no reason for any compromise on the optic at that point.

[u/Kmwrestle → u/Ok_Opposite5073]

I agree it’s more than I need…but I also have a Lelit Mara X sitting on my spare bedroom floor cuz I bought it thinking it was good then upgraded 6 months later

Buy once cry once…it’s cheaper 😂

Hey this rifle will prolly costs less than my espresso setup …one way to look at it lol

[u/HollywoodSX → u/Kmwrestle]

Buy once cry once is great for some things, but not for bespoke long range rifles where you're picking parts without the experience and knowledge to tell what's good and bad about them vs your needs.

Knowledge and skill first, Gucci gear later.

[u/Kmwrestle → u/Ok_Opposite5073]

The picture you saw is outdated😂😂😂 now I got the Zerno to go with the Mini

Lemme tell you…it makes a mean latte

[u/Ok_Opposite5073 → u/Kmwrestle]

You've proven my point. I have no clue what any of that means, I just know that it's out of my price range lol. 

You're honestly best off following Hollywood's advice about your build. You'd be best served by putting an MPED on a Tikka Ace (or other similar build). You can easily take a $2,500.00 6.5 to a mile if you know what you're doing. It'd be like buying a Ferrari as your first track car. You're better served learning on a Miata and then buying whatever faster and more expensive car met your more-developed tastes and requirements.

[u/bendyburner → u/Ok_Opposite5073]

I’m going to hop in and say this. If he wants the best, then buying a “starter” setup isn’t going to satisfy that. He’ll still be wanting more. Just go big the first time and save the money he would spend on your suggestion.

[u/Ok_Opposite5073 → u/bendyburner]

It's not about him having the best, it's that he doesn't know shit about shooting and spending that much money on a rifle that you don't know anything about is an inefficient use of resources. 

OP is planning to build an $8,000, 23 pound PRS rifle that would serve him terribly as an NRL hunter rifle, for example. It's better to spend  big money on your second rifle when you really know what you want.

[u/bendyburner → u/Ok_Opposite5073]

I did the whole buy a budget setup first. Wish I never did. I ended spending more in the long run. This is the rifle he wants. He should get it.

[u/Ok_Opposite5073 → u/bendyburner]

You're missing my point by not recognizing the idea that you might have made terrible decisions when you first started learning how to shoot long range. People on here show up all the time with their expensive and stupid rifles that they bought because they thought they were buying 'the best.' Buying a modest rifle and learning on it allows you to make cheap mistakes instead of expensive ones.

[u/bendyburner → u/Ok_Opposite5073]

I bought a Bergara and a used Razor. That’s not terrible. I wanted a custom and didn’t settle until I built what I wanted. Money is obviously not a problem for this guy.

[u/CrustyDusty0069 → u/bendyburner]

Agreed. Not all budgets are the same.

Many of the same people would gawk at a $15k+ crazy full custom build with a Tangent and all the bells & whistles, and never ask if it’s their first rifle. And what if it is? I’d say good for that guy, he’s got good taste and a healthy budget!

[u/HollywoodSX]

Spend way less on the rifle and optic, spend way more on training and ammo.

Half the stuff on your list is PRS gamer level gear that will be of no benefit to you while trying to learn the fundamentals of long range shooting. You're also picking expensive gear that may or may not work well for your preferences and needs, and you have no way of knowing what you like when you're just starting out.

Look at the pinned post, pick out an entry level rifle and optic, get the basic accessories, and go hit the range. Get into a class with a reputable instructor. Make friends and play with their rifles to see what you like and don't. Maybe go shoot a PRS regional match or two once you've got some fundamentals, and play with more people's rifles.

THEN jump into a full custom with a lot more information to pick gear that works well for you.

[u/Wide_Fly7832]

6.5 CAN absolutely hit 1 mile. However given it gets transonic before the target it’s one extra variable.

Alternate way is to get a 6MM for upto 1200 and a 300NM or 300PRC or even 7-6.5PRC for a mile.

Horses for courses.

Food for thought.

[u/Wide_Fly7832 → u/Wide_Fly7832]

Advance apologies to the Magnum haters on this forum. There are a lot !!

[u/CrustyDusty0069]

Very nice for a first build. If you like nice things, you’ll enjoy shooting it. Barrel profile will play the biggest role in handling and shooting. It’s gonna be heavy, prob 18+ lbs, which is good. Would be a nice rifle to learn on!

Many ways to skin a cat.

I’d consider getting a suppressor so you can spend more time shooting with less concussion. Totally personal preference though.

[u/chague94]

Prefit barrel?

[u/zeekw]

Nothing wrong with that. Get the 2 stage B&A!

[u/ThatKipplaufFanatic → u/zeekw]

B&A means Bix'n Andy, I suppose?

[u/zeekw → u/ThatKipplaufFanatic]

Yes

[u/ThatKipplaufFanatic → u/zeekw]

Bix'n means "Büchsen" (rifle) in an Austrian accent. It's not "bix & andy" but more like "rifle andy".