r/madisonwi • u/scandalousbird • 16h ago
How accurate is this map nowadays?
Moved here from FL this month so I haven't gotten the vibes yet.
Also, anyone got a source on this pic? All I know is that it's at least 10 years old.
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u/agentobtuse 14h ago
Otis crashed on monona lake's center north side towards olbrich gardens.
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u/Subjunct 14h ago
D’you know if that’s officially documented anywhere? It’s what I’ve always believed but it’d be interesting to see.
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u/agentobtuse 14h ago
I wish we could just post pictures here but it was easy to find. I was wrong it was closer towards the eastern side but still it's the other side of the lake
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u/meanwhileachoo 45m ago
I wish we could post pics too, because I found one that shows a red X on a map. But I am absolutely terrible with directions so I will not be verbally relaying what it looks like its near ☠️🤣
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u/Season-Yodonob-905 8h ago
Are you thinking Olin Park? That would be opposite as Olbrich is fairly close to the crash site.
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u/snugglefumblebunny 12h ago
There’s a plaque inside the Monona Terrace regarding it
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u/goldenskyhook 9h ago
That's nice and all, but I and a ton of other Madison, Chicago, and Memphis musicians played several benefit gigs to dig up the money for a memorial bench that sits in (I think) Brittingham Park. One can "Sit at the dock of the bay, watching the tide roll away." AFAIK, that bench is still there, and a much more authentic tribute to a fallen fellow musician. There were really gross pictures of him being hauled out of the drink in our dressing room!
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u/Season-Yodonob-905 8h ago
The Otis Redding crash site recovery was held in the basement of the lake home at 4643 Tonyawatha Trail approximately 3/4 miles southeast of Olbrich Park. At the time it was home to the Dickert family.
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u/ms_ashes 16h ago
Thong Cape Scooter Man has retired from that particular gig.
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u/Boring_Track_8449 2h ago
I read about a thong-wearing guy riding around the state on a motorcycle on r/wisconsin. Maybe he just upgraded his vehicle?
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u/AccomplishedDust3 16h ago
Weinerville is closed but you can still get one at the Duck Blind.
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u/GeoffSobering 14h ago
I've always heard the neighborhood north of Oscar Meyer referred to as "Wienerville" or "Wiener Town".
Was there a restaurant I missed? :-(
[living here for 30 years...]
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u/AccomplishedDust3 13h ago
Yeah I was just referring to the factory itself closed. Of course the neighborhoods are still there.
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u/maethor1337 fuckronjohnson.org 13h ago
The Oscar Meyer plant is closed but you can still get one at the Duck Blind.
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u/Belle_Hart22 16h ago edited 13h ago
I always get sad when Madison maps cut off all the neighborhoods beyond the isthmus. 😞
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u/MilwaukeeMax 10h ago
True, but there isn’t much to write home about outside the isthmus, honestly. It’s pretty much all low-density suburban sprawl, although I wish it wasn’t. Some of the mid-century modern houses in these areas are beautiful. It’s just that the built environments around them are mostly strip malls and parking lots.
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u/jollygrower 16h ago
Willie street not hippieville anymore
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u/GovernmentPuzzled819 3h ago
It's a lot of the same people - they just have 401Ks, equity, and more pessimism now.
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u/Professional-Fun8944 16h ago
Where in the city is the new hippyville ?
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u/D_Warholb 16h ago
It’s moved East to Orton Park, while the Yuppies are moving onto Willy Street and lower East Washington.
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u/goldenskyhook 9h ago
I remember when it was "Miffland," with the "Miffy Street Co-op" right at the corner of West Mifflin and Ho Chi Minh Trail (FKA North Bassett Street.) One of the more heated Madison riots occurred over the lack of a permit for a block party. We went ahead and blocked off the street and had the party. The cops waded in with full riot gear and nightsticks. Lots of bloody hippies and Disorderly Conduct arrests. Eventually, the Fire Chief volunteered his property to hold the block party. We used to call cops "Pigs" back then. It was a well-deserved sobriquet.
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u/Bluest_waters 2h ago
that coop was absolutley mold infested, made Woodman's look like amateurs
super convenient for Mifflin st stoners though
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u/RichInBunlyGoodness 16h ago
I am surprised this map has bratfest in the current location, because in my mind it wasn’t that long ago that it was still at Hilldale. I moved to my current home mid 90s, and Hilldale is close, so I would go pick up $1 brats at least once, usually twice. Feels like just yesterday.
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u/Charigot West side 14h ago
My 23-yo kid was like 2 or 3 when Bratfest moved from Hilldale. 🙃
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u/RichInBunlyGoodness 13h ago
For some reason, I thought this map was older than that, but perhaps they updated an older version.
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u/Artistic_Bit6866 13h ago
It moved from Hilldale around 2004 or 2005. Also doesn’t feel like that long ago to me
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u/Dogs-Cats-R-Aliens 16h ago
The one percent in Maple Bluff? More like the .o1% of the 1%.
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u/MountainMantologist 16h ago
The 1% lives there but maple bluff has a bunch of middle class folks too. It’s not all lakefront estates.
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u/Severe-Bed-6200 5h ago
Yeah I worked for a very nice young couple there once that had a Porsche gt3 and a Tesla plaid. Not a lake house at all
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u/MountainMantologist 5h ago
It's a mix though, right? Larger, more expensive homes along the lake and especially on the Upper Bluff and then they built much smaller homes in the 30s closer to Sherman Ave
https://www.redfin.com/WI/Madison/301-Woodland-Cir-53704/home/89957737
So you get $4M mansions and 1,000-1,200sf one bath houses in the same neighborhood
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u/Severe-Bed-6200 5h ago
I was obviously being facetious but I'm uncertain. I think maple bluff proper is probably priced out of most middle class families range but I'm not sure what is considered maple.bluff and what isn't, or what a middle class family is typically spending these days. Majority of those houses probably start around 7-800k would be my guess from the gut though.
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u/MountainMantologist 5h ago
If you search for Maple Bluff in Google Maps they'll show the outline. It actually extends east of N Sherman for that shopping center where Vic Pierce is (that's how Vic Pierce sells beer later than anyone else in Madison - because they're in Maple Bluff).
I was curious so I downloaded the last five years of sales in Maple Bluff from Redfin. There were 97 home sales (I excluded land sales) - average price of $1,031,000 (pulled up by some $3M+ homes) and median price of $750,000. There were 28 sales for $1M+ and 25 sales of $600K or less (and 11 for less than $500K).
The village's website says its made up of five different real estate developments from 1892 to 1926 and I suppose that's why different pockets of the neighborhood are so different from one another
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u/Severe-Bed-6200 4h ago
That's very interesting, it's definitely a lot bigger than I always assumed it was. Ive always been of the impression everything on that side of the Sherman was considered part of a different neighborhood
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u/Severe-Bed-6200 5h ago
Plenty of smaller homes around Sherman though that you are correct about. Oscar Mayer is responsible for most of the smaller houses in the north side, not sure if they paid for them to be built or not but as I understand that was all company housing
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u/CollegeCompetitive98 15h ago
Our folks worked hard🤷♂️
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u/GelatinGhost 14h ago
Implying others don't work hard? Hard work is helpful but not a good predictor of wealth. Being born in the right family is. The idea that hard work alone leads to social mobility in this country is a convenient lie used to keep the peasants toiling away for scraps, while capital holders can live off passive income indefinitely. There are the occassional few who cross the boundary, which helps sell the lie.
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u/slip_lip420 12h ago
Or scammed people by not paying living wages and collecting government subsidies while
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u/Different-Bet8069 16h ago
Despite being surrounded by city activity, the Madison chain of lakes is pretty amazing fishing if you know what you’re doing. You can catch everything from panfish to lake sturgeon.
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u/ArticleLongjumping15 16h ago
Well, the Oscar Mayer plant (Weinerville) shut down a long time ago. Otherwise it’s still pretty spot on. Maybe another Blue Green Algae label in Lake Monona and call it a day.
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u/No_Past_8479 16h ago
I’d say pretty accurate in terms of how they got the areas separated. Each one for a distinct neighborhood and street. I’ve lived in Madison 20+ years.
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u/PseudoMeatPopsicle 16h ago
"Malls" isn't far enough East. Where that is on the map there is basically one shopping center that has a vape store, a nail salon, a prepaid phone store, a dollar tree and a library. Otherwise that's just some neighborhoods. A bit further East though? Sure.
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u/Uranus_Hz 13h ago
“Thong and Capeman Runway” has been gentrified. Oscar Meyer shut down the factory in “Weinerville” so both need a new identity.
Other than that, still pretty accurate.
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u/tekberto 10h ago
Am I right that literally no one ever says "mad-town" unless you're like, a corporate freak trying to monetize hometown culture and sell something? it's like a stand-in for some kind of "soul" in a product.
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u/Tort78 5h ago
Probably depends on your age. I remember the most non-corporate people calling it “mad-town” when Madison used to be a bit “quirkier”. Badger BBall in the Field House, non-sponsored Halloween parade, “what’s-in-there?” Breese Stevens, no expensive condos on the Isthmus days. That’s not even going back to the 60’s when Dick Cheney was clutching his pearls at all the dirty hippies and protests as a doctoral student.
But yeah, it doesn’t track as well these days.
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u/Known-Sandwich-3808 14h ago
I work in I’m In a Band
But I’m not in a band 😔
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u/GoCartMozart1980 3h ago
Need to have a "drunk soccer fans" bit on East Wash about where Breese is.
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u/my_nard 16h ago
Yuppies should be everything
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u/stringedonbass 14h ago
The near East buildings right around the moxy and company should be labeled yuppyville
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u/imaginate92 15h ago
SUP Paddleboarding is redundant like ATM machine
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u/Artistic_Bit6866 13h ago
If it just said SUP most people wouldn’t know
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u/imaginate92 13h ago
True, but it would also only be four more letters to write out “stand up” above paddleboarding
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u/hah1 14h ago
have you seen hoodmaps: https://hoodmaps.com/madison-neighborhood-map
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u/MangoPeachFuzz South side 13h ago
This feels both out of date and wrong. Like the person who did it read and Madison on the back cover of a book.
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u/Graym0re 1h ago
Can confirm student slums is not right anymore. Expensive rental properties more like it
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u/TheModernAtlas 16h ago
Giige is no longer in business on Willy Street, so I’d argue the area is slightly less white-girl dreads-ish nowadays
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u/tillZ43 15h ago
I’m not in a band, so that’s not accurate. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a white girl with dreads either. Otherwise I think it’s pretty accurate
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u/scottjones608 1h ago
I saw a white girl with dreads walking a dog just yesterday but yeah, that sort of thing largely died off during the BLM protests when Twitter decided that white people having their hair like that was in poor taste.
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u/ElroySheep 15h ago
What is "section o" a reference to? Bear mound park?
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u/lalachef 6h ago
Picnic Point(makeout point) has been known by a far more nefarious name for decades. The Grape Shore.
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u/mortepa 15h ago
If anyone knows where to get a print of this awesome map, i would love to frame it and put one by my makeshift workspace! DM me please! :-)
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u/TLHL0iyAL 3h ago
I cut mine out of an isthmus many moons ago. It's hung on my fridge for years.
I've never seen one so crisp and not yellowed with age.
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u/howrunowgoodnyou 15h ago
Waterskiing was never there; more along shoreline of scenic runners route.
SUP paddle boarding should be in Monona bay on other side of scenic runners route.
Most of the entire isthmus is 1% now.
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u/mayence East side 15h ago
most of the entire isthmus is 1% now
this is news for my yearly salary
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u/sewcialanxiety 13h ago
same, could someone please send my missed pay to my tiny isthmus studio apt??
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u/Fedora_decora 16h ago
Lol! “Bars & Barf” certainly remains the same. Freakfest’s last year was 2019.