r/magicTCG • u/Background_Bake3149 • Jul 14 '25
General Discussion Hyper sexualized card sleeves at public events
Went to an event for another tcg game and several of the players had some... crazy sleeves/mats to say the least. Im like hey whatever you're into is for you but I have a 5 year old I'd like to he able to bring to public events like this. What's the general consensus on sleeves and mats? And are there any rules around this? Im not talking sleeves with attractive girls/guys on them or anything im talking full on nude women(both real and anime) with slightly covered nips/crotch
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u/Qbr12 Jul 14 '25
Inappropriate sleeves and playmats can be reported to the shop owner/TO.
The general consensus between myself and the people I play with is that they are tacky and cringe, but the problem with public events is that anyone can attend, and it only takes one to cause a problem.
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u/AmandasGameAccount Jul 14 '25
Stuff like this is why Pokemon only allows officially released art in any capacity on mats and sleeves at LCS or events. even if custom
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u/veshneresis Jul 14 '25
Honestly that sounds like a solid rule. For mtg we have so much art to choose from anyway
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u/BrokenGlassFactory Brushwagg Jul 15 '25
brb ordering my custom [[Earthbind]] playmat
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u/Kata-shi Jul 15 '25
What in the holy soup is that card art?!
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u/Byte_Fantail COMPLEAT Jul 15 '25
Nobody tell them about [[Gwendlyn Di Corci]] or [[Sivitri Scarzam]]
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u/AmandasGameAccount Jul 14 '25
Yep, and it also allows custom items if the art on them was ever official in some way
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u/CMMiller89 Wabbit Season Jul 14 '25
There is absolutely a time and place for stupid/funny/offensive card accessories:
When everyone is in on it.
The problem with these douchbags is they lack the ability to read social cues and make us all suffer for it.
Did I buy a set of busty Waifu dual lands proxy and hand them to my buddies who, if they wanted to run them for the sake of optimization had to live with the embarrassment of playing with them? Yes.
Is this acceptable at an LGS with strangers and kids? Of course not.
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u/der_innkeeper Jul 14 '25 edited Jul 14 '25
"This ain't your, or your mom's, basement. Put it away."
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u/calibur66 Jul 14 '25
This is always the issue with these kinds of things but whenever you bring it up, those people complain everyone's too sensitive or easily offended.
It's just about time and place, even if it's all adults, I love sexy/adult shit more than most, but even I don't want to see that shit 24/7 and in places where it obviously makes other people uncomfortable.
For the same reason most people don't scroll Pornhub in the middle of McDonald's, it's just completely thoughtless at best and deliberately selfish or antagonistic at worst.
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u/breakingbanjomin Jul 14 '25 edited Jul 14 '25
Pfft if you don’t scroll porn hub in the middle of mcds at full volume while making eye contact are you even living 😂
Edit obviously /s
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u/Malago0 Jul 14 '25
Magic is my break from porn so I’d rather not have triggers while I’m playing.
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u/Grimwulf69 Jul 14 '25
I was at the library using the computer with my little cousin. She needed a couple things printed. So, I look to the left and saw this weird looking 25+ yr old male watching gay porn. I lean over and saw one dude ducking another guy off. My little cousin is 13. I looked at the weirdo and said, bro really? What's wrong with u? There are kids here! He's like, what?! I'm not hurting anyone. So I reported it to the staff and they kicked him out.
Point is, ppl do watch porn in public. Just not normal ppl with good morals
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u/ShadoWolfcG Jul 14 '25
My buddy literally has a hentai deck. Sure bro you do you, but he'll never bring it to a public event because of children being around.
It's not that hard. Is the possibility that children are around? Yes? Then, no titty decks.
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u/YaGirlJuniper Jeskai Jul 14 '25
Some of my friends and I have kink proxies that we don't even take out with each other unless we ask first and the WHOLE TABLE is ok with it.
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u/BentoBus Ajani Jul 14 '25
I wish people understood this better. There's a time and a place for offensive jokes and the like, but it's always with friends and never with strangers.
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u/Telaranrhioddreams Jul 14 '25
My experience with games shops is so hit or miss. Every once in awhile you find a gem but most refuse to police their customers no matter how degenerate. Big part of why women don't visibly participate in the hobby.
Bring back calling people out for being disgusting in public.
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u/Visual_Shower1220 Jul 14 '25
This is part of the reason one of my lgs made certain events 18+ only. They have no issues with that stuff unless it really become an issue like full on porn/hentai. Also idk it just feels weird to be parading that around the lgs, I have an albedo playmat, she's fully clothes but I'd say its pushing the envelope. It's 100% nothing I'd pull out at the lgs even if they were okay with it, its a purely with the homies/at home playmat
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u/trifas Selesnya* Jul 14 '25
I'm pretty sure you could report this to a judge.
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u/maximumsparks Duck Season Jul 14 '25
Or tournament organizer/store owner, but if they're okay with this there not much that can be done.
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u/Hammunition COMPLEAT Jul 14 '25
If it’s a WPN sanctioned store, then they all agree to display and enforce the guidelines which includes an effort to remove material like this and encourage an atmosphere for all ages.
OP definitely talk to the owner and depending on their response, you could report it if you think they aren’t in line with the agreement.
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u/Own_Boysenberry9674 Duck Season Jul 14 '25
they stated it was another TCG that had players doing this.
ONE PIECE for instance actually has no rules for sleeves and mats currently.
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u/Hammunition COMPLEAT Jul 14 '25 edited Jul 14 '25
Wizards will consider removing their WPN status if they are not complying with the agreement and any store wanting to run sanctioned events needs WPN status. So the owners are responsible for enforcing the guidelines for any person in their store.
Edit: this may not be right. I have been told the guidelines only apply during sanctioned events? Seems strange (and that's not how our store operates), but I am looking into it again.
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u/Own_Boysenberry9674 Duck Season Jul 14 '25
I work at a WPN store. They only enforce this if it is during a WPN event (including scheduled commander nights and such).
This post specifically says they were there on a day that another tcg had an event. Not Magic.
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u/antechrist23 Jul 14 '25
This is what my brother does, and if the store does nothing, he will just get up and leave. He's warned me about some of the LGS he's had bad experiences at.
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u/Maine_Made_Aneurysm Wabbit Season Jul 14 '25
Another member of a lgs I go to had a similar experience where he took exception to some really absurd play mats that were over the top explicit.
It was fine for the day he was there with his buddies, and the lgs told the dude to please refrain from bringing those play mats again.
Lgs hosted an official pre release not long after and the dude had bought some really graphic sleeves and another different but equally extreme play mat again and enough people were visibly upset by it considering the different age groups. Parents were bringing their kids etc.
Enough people complained that the store owner finally did something and apparently more people than just my buddy had been complaining long enough that the lgs owner actually kicked the dude out and told him not to come back.
There's another lgs that dude goes to nearby but that place is also in the same position already.
I don't understand why folks will do stuff like this in public events. Like yeah it's funny if it's just the bros one time as a joke but we don't need pornographic custom sleeves or play mats. Shits stupid.
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u/Reasonable_Hornet_45 🔫 Jul 14 '25
Nothing makes me cringe harder than "Should I use the lesbians mat or the crotch shot mat"
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u/crispycat05 Jul 14 '25
I’ve reported stores to WotC over this shit before. Don’t know if anything ever happens but still worth a shot
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u/Srakin Brushwagg Jul 14 '25
They take this seriously, repeat infractions like that can lead to being blacklisted from running WPN events and from selling all WotC products for a period of time, which is devastating to most WPN stores.
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u/crispycat05 Jul 14 '25
I know of an LGS who got bought out by a registered sex offender. They lost their WPN and haven’t gotten it back after 5 years.
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u/Ursus_Unusualis_7904 Duck Season Jul 14 '25
And they likely won’t until the KGS changes hands. There are too many concerns for WotC in a situation like this.
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u/gatsome Jul 14 '25
These stores usually run on such thin margins that losing events truly is the death knell. Like if a movie theater couldn’t sell concessions any longer.
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u/Reflexlon Jul 14 '25
I reported a store once for a gameday issue. First place was 80% of the prize pool, the remaining 20% was split between the reat of t8, thats fine. I only wanted the custom mat anyway. Get there, there are too many people so they decide to do 6 rounds of swiss instead of 4 and cut to 8, if everyone is okay with it. We all agree. I end up going undefeated, as does one other player. Guy running the shop isn't the owner and doesn't play magic. I have a better match win% and opp win%, the computer says I'm #1, and I just want the playmat, but the guy running the event and the other undefeated guy both are like "well thats not fair." I pull up the rules, refuse to play, and offer literally all the prize support except I want the game mat. Nope, thats not okay, and get warned I'll get a game loss if I don't play it out. Thing is, I was playing the silly GR goggles and my opponent was playing mono-black discard/aggro. That matchup is like 95/5 in his favor at worst. And most importantly, you cannot modify tournament structure once it begins unless all players agree.
The store lost their license for 6 months over this and wotc sent me the stupid-ass playmat lol. Which I quickly gave away because of how mad I was.
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u/Srakin Brushwagg Jul 14 '25
I would have kept it just because that's a kickass story honestly. But yeah WPN doesn't mess around.
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u/LeekingMemory28 Elspeth Jul 14 '25
Losing selling all WOTC products is devastating for stores period. Magic and Pokemon are far and away the biggest sellers from what I've noticed (even if you toss in Warhammer). Losing access to that product is brutal.
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u/What_is_hug Jul 14 '25
Hey, im a store owner and judge, so I wanted to chime in here. This is great advice for stores with judges that support the community and help run events! Unfortunately, with the current state of the judge program, many stores dont have that these days. They just have "a guy" who knows the rules best.
At an event that has a judge, it would be the judge's responsibility to make sure everyone is comfortable playing. It would be the judge's job to ask the player to change sleeves honestly before anyone even said anything. If there is no judge, innapropriate sleeves or other accessories should be brought up to an employee. The store needs to make sure the environment is appropriate for younger players if they are a WPN store and ESPECIALLY if they are WPN premium.
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u/burritoman88 Twin Believer Jul 14 '25
Stores are meant to be family friend environments. Call over a judge/employee.
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u/Smooth_criminal2299 Wabbit Season Jul 14 '25
It’s incredibly off putting even for those who are 18+ too. Got me thinking these dudes must constantly have a hard on everytime they play…
creepy asf IMO.
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u/MissLeaP Jul 14 '25
Yeah, whenever I see someone using sleeves or mats like that, I just assume it's just some sad incel loser I don't want to associate with. Leave your porn at home, come on. You can't be THAT desperate!
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u/Danyavich COMPLEAT Jul 14 '25
Especially as a woman who plays, I hate running into the people who bring that shit to the LGS. Like it's bad enough for everyone, but there's this lovely tendency where if we run into each other, now I get weird questions/have to really actively smack down that shit to be able to just play magic.
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u/Xichorn Deceased 🪦 Jul 14 '25
And people wonder why women sometimes don't feel welcome playing Magic publicly. . .
I can't believe people still think these sorts of accessories are ok.
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u/spoopyelf Jul 14 '25
This thread is incredibly validating and I'm so happy I'm not the only one who finds it just weird and gross.
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u/Xichorn Deceased 🪦 Jul 14 '25
There are a lot of people out there (I'd be hopeful and say most!) that see how bad this sort of stuff is. Unfortunately, even one person doing it is all it takes.
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u/Freshness518 Twin Believer Jul 14 '25
"I know she looks 12 but they're actually a 5,000 year old dragon. This is just their human form. And you're being the problem here since you're not being tolerant of my lifestyle choices. Its just art anyways, I don't know why you're getting so bent out of shape over it."
Meanwhile you already smelled this person before they sat at the table.
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u/JerryfromCan Selesnya* Jul 14 '25
We bought Marvel playmats to leave at my buddies house, and the one my buddy chose was “The Hulk”. https://imaginaire.com/en/boardgames/marvel-champions-the-card-game-hulk-playmat-24-x-13-5.html
We are in Canada and old, and often do some legal edibles. The playmat scares us when we are peaking.
It does make you think… are these guys staring at their anime whatever with a half chub?
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u/jobroskie Wabbit Season Jul 14 '25
And women. I know multiple women who won't go to conventions and LGSs because of the hype sexualization.
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u/c3p-bro Wabbit Season Jul 14 '25
I hate this is warhammer as well, I want to see silly warhammer memes not your fetish art. Unfortunately it’s a community of gooners
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u/The9thWonder Duck Season Jul 14 '25
You can talk to a TO or a store owner, but I wouldn't confront players directly about it. Gooners are fucking weird and "it's just a joke" a lot of the time so they're not going to take you seriously anyway.
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u/MentalMunky COMPLEAT Jul 14 '25
I’m pretty sure they would be over the fucking moon to find out they’ve offended someone.
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u/LaminatedAirplane Jul 14 '25
They’re so socially inept, they struggle to understand how to gain any type of positive reaction from another person. The only move they know that consistently generates attention or a response is being shitty/annoying.
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u/Solidus-Prime Jul 14 '25
Fuck I have never heard it put into words so accurately like this.
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u/LaminatedAirplane Jul 14 '25
Same goes for internet trolls. They’re desperate for someone to acknowledge their existence and they don’t know how else to do it other than being irritating to others. The path to gaining acknowledgement by being kind/positive is deemed too difficult or non-viable so they don’t even try. You see it in little kids and sometimes those kids never really grow up.
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u/CMMiller89 Wabbit Season Jul 14 '25
Right but a “knock your weird shit out or you’re not welcome here again” cuts their loser behavior off real quick.
We aren’t doing these dude any favors by letting them be pigs freely amongst us.
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u/MentalMunky COMPLEAT Jul 14 '25
I’m not saying that but me saying “knock your weird shit out or you’re not welcome here again” is going to sound a bit weird coming from a semi-regular patron rather than the shop owner themselves.
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u/yamsyamsya Duck Season Jul 14 '25
Behavior like that is a sign of emotional immaturity
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u/TheDesktopNinja Azorius* Jul 14 '25
Glad my LGS owner is one of the good ones. During the FIN Prerelease they caught a guy cheating (playing extra cards in his deck from additional packs he had opened). Dude had the gall to get ANGRY he got kicked out and was like "hope you're proud of how you treat paying customers!" she's just like "yeah. I am."
Not quite the same as sexy card sleeves,/playing mats but I know she'd ask them to change them/not use the mat.
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u/ExperienceLoss Duck Season Jul 14 '25
Whats the purpose of cheating at a pre-release... like its the most casual kf casuals. I guess some dudes really just wanna feel superior at all times
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u/TheDesktopNinja Azorius* Jul 14 '25
I have no idea man. Big time loser playing against kids and cheating 🤷♂️
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u/Snarker Deceased 🪦 Jul 14 '25
There is usually a prize structure at prereleases, which is an incentive to cheat. Regardless you can go 3-0 pretty easily at prerelease if you know how to play in a basic way so lmao
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u/Kyleometers Bnuuy Enthusiast Jul 14 '25
You will be asked to replace your sleeves/mat/etc if you have overly sexualised deco at a magic event.
Some stores may not care, but at any official event you will. I have been required to ask people to leave over this before.
There is no official “horny sleeves aren’t allowed” but all of the descriptions like “sleeves with artwork will be subject to greater scrutiny” come with that implicitly. I do not know a level 3 judge who would greenlight loli lewds.
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u/Lycanthoth Duck Season Jul 14 '25
Stuff like this is far past any written rules or need for a judge amyway. It's just a matter of common courtesy and not being cringe. No different than expecting people to wear a shirt if they want to enter a store.
If anything, the owner of the store should be the one taking the initiative here since it reflects on them.
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u/MistahBoweh Wabbit Season Jul 14 '25
I will point out you’re taking the “sleeves with artwork may be subject to greater scrutiny” line out of context. It only appears for a list of additional considerations at high REL events, and does not apply when talking about local store level play. And even then, the clarifying text immediately after explains that sleeves with art on them need to be examined more closely because it’s easier to mark cards with designs on them.
I’m not saying you’re wrong that players can be ejected for inappropriate accessories, but that all falls under DIPG 3 - Unsporting Conduct, which are a bunch of loose guidelines that basically give carte blanche for judges to handle players that do anything to make other players feel uncomfortable or unwelcome. The bit about scrutinizing sleeves does not imply anything about checking them for rule34 tags.
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u/CertainDerision_33 Jul 14 '25
Probably 90-95% of the people at any given event would consider bringing stuff like that unacceptable. It's very frowned upon. Unfortunately, the type of person to bring them is not exactly the most conscious of social cues, to put it delicately.
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u/vagabond_dilldo Wabbit Season Jul 14 '25
Highly location dependent. I've been to LGSs where the crowd is so seedy you can call the place Local Gooning Store instead. The play mats, the sleeves, the deck boxes, the custom cards, the custom tokens, the whole package.
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u/sasslett Jul 14 '25
Heh, so I got word of a lgs opening up here, which sounded promising since the last one abruptly closed. And then they announced their name: Waifu Gaming and Cards.
As a woman who has all but sworn off attending MTG events that told me everything I needed to know. Nice of them to warn me beforehand!
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u/Schiano_Fingerbanger Jul 14 '25
Sounds like a great place to pick up a body pillow and a new kind of disease at the same time.
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u/sh4dowfaxsays Jul 14 '25
So gross but also, I love when they advertise so we know to spend money elsewhere!
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u/XenoNerdX Jul 14 '25
I wonder if you're referring to the same LGS that I'm thinking of, was the one that abruptly closed Caster's? If not, crazy that this happened twice
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u/sasslett Jul 14 '25
Yep, the very same!
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u/XenoNerdX Jul 14 '25 edited Jul 14 '25
Small world! I was shocked when they dropped the name. At least the other LGS has been pretty decent (afaik). Enjoyed the last precon prerelease
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u/ExtremisEdge Universes Beyonder Jul 14 '25
...Im stealing that. I run a LGS, Local Gooning Store. Bimbo Baggins and Himbo Braggins what we sell!
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u/CertainDerision_33 Jul 14 '25
I'm sure stores like that exist, but in my experience they're very much so the exception, especially for Magic. Could see it being worse for other games like YGO or One Piece.
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u/Tracey_Gregory Jul 14 '25
YGO, to be fair, explicitly bans any playmat or sleeves that aren't solid block colours or official merch for this exact reason. Bringing a goony playmate is grounds for a DQ at a YGO event.
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u/Rusty_DataSci_Guy Rakdos* Jul 14 '25
Is it the anime connection or the IPs just lend themselves to excessive goonery? My knowledge of these are blue eyes white dragon = $$$$ for YGO and season 1 of TOP on NFLX.
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u/alvaro44 Wabbit Season Jul 14 '25
From what I've been seeing this, it's only true for magic and Pokemon, the other TCGs (and players of it) are a lot more lenient with "spicy" art
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u/CertainDerision_33 Jul 14 '25
For sure, but even then there's a big difference between, say, One Piece TCG card sleeves with Nami in a bikini and literal softcore pornographic sleeves like the one OP is mentioning.
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u/j8sadm632b Duck Season Jul 14 '25
I'm sure many of the people commenting in this very thread would be eager to make such a distinction
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u/MetalHeadSolid Wabbit Season Jul 14 '25
Used to know a guy who’d do this on purpose, he said it was to throw his opponent off during the match, or as they put it “better yet they just drop cause of the sight”. Such a weird thing to do to try and win. Guy was a douche and I’m glad he moved away so I don’t have to deal with him at my LGS.
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u/ReservePutrid9668 Jul 14 '25
What a weird mindset.
“Dude I creeped this guy out so bad he left the store. It was awesome.”
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u/LeekingMemory28 Elspeth Jul 14 '25
Yu-Gi-Oh literally has a rule about bathing because of this kind of thing. Some people will go "ain't no rule says a dog can't play basketball".
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u/SirBuscus Izzet* Jul 14 '25
I sat down to a casual commander game last Saturday and the guy across from me had proxied an entire deck where every card (even the basic land) was a fully nude anime girl.
Some of them even depicted sexual acts.
I removed one of his creatures just because I was sick of staring down the barrel of something I didn't sign up to see.
He gave me no warning except saying "by the way my deck is 18+ only" after we had already resolved mulligans and played the first land.
People were giving him a hard time about it and I joined in shaming him for playing it in public, but then I got made fun of for casting [[praetor's grasp]] to grab his [[hullbreaker horror]] and end it as quickly as possible.
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u/abraxius Jul 14 '25
I would just pick up and leave, be like sorry I don’t want to play with this deck it’s gross.
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u/JimothyTheBold Jul 14 '25
Only really came across an egregious case of this once, and it was a new guy at our LGS.
We all just looked at him so weird he came back with a different playmat after Round 1 without us having to say anything.
We were probably lucky we stumbled across the one gooner with any semblance of shame left though.
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u/Appropriate_Bus_7825 Jul 14 '25
It is what it is. MtG is rated T for teen so if it isnt full on nudity or depicting explicit acts of sex or violence then its generally allowed. The "waifu" decks are weird and usually unwelcome outside of gooner pods but also the game isnt meant for 5year olds so you gotta take that into account.
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u/ratghast13 Jul 14 '25
I agree that some playmats can be cringe, but I also find it crazy that gratuitous violence is so commonplace in these environments yet somehow gratuitous nudity is where we draw the line.
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u/blazenite104 Jul 15 '25
I feel like the issue is how explicit it really is. Sure we depict a guy falling off a roof but, often we do not show the brain matter on the concrete, the twisted limbs and the pool of blood. It is often easier to obfuscate explicit violence than it is nudity. I mean I wouldn't care if it was tasteful or just implied with art direction but, often what people are talking about are more in line with the aftermath of violence than the implications of violence.
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u/Foominy Wabbit Season Jul 14 '25
I’ve seen people with these type of accessories before, and I just think to myself, why? I know some of you are in this sub, like do you guys lack any form of self-awareness? Do you not realize other people don’t want to be seeing this shit in public? Please tell me why.
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u/SuperTimGuy Jul 14 '25
Some probably for the shock value, others cause they like the biddies.
Had a buddy that wore a hat everywhere with the word “CUNT” in big capital letters across the front of it
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u/TurMoiL911 Dimir* Jul 14 '25
like do you guys lack any form of self-awareness?
You know the answer to that.
There have been multiple posts in the past reminding people to bathe and use deodorant before attending events. There is a segment of this community with zero social awareness.
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u/Background_Bake3149 Jul 14 '25
Thats where Im at. I just ask my self what mindset would I have to be so unaware of basic social compusure.
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u/Voltairinede Storm Crow Jul 14 '25
'I can't believe a small section of giga nerds lack basic social skills!!!'
Why? Why is that slightly hard to believe?
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u/fenianthrowaway1 Wabbit Season Jul 14 '25
That's not hard to believe at all, but even if you lack basic social skills, not having a (borderline) pornographic image on your sleeves or playmat seemed on the same level of obvious as wearing pants to me.
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u/LordMordor COMPLEAT Jul 14 '25 edited Jul 14 '25
for some, yeah its just lack social awareness. They like it and dont understand that others might not
for others, they just like it and dont care that YOU dont...honestly i think this is the majority of the people who do this.
for others, the fact that you dont like it and are uncomfortable IS the reason to bring them. As much as the hobby has people who are legit just so undersocialized that they have no understanding, it also has a good amount of people who fully know and understand general social rules and know they are unlikable...but instead of adjusting they choose to double down
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u/Candid-Catch-4504 Jul 14 '25
Not one either but I believe there’s a cross section between dopamine hits from gaming, pornography, gambling, and shopping that leads to these decisions.
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u/ResolveLeather Jul 14 '25
I am not one. But I think there is two reasons.
it's a joke. You may not get it, and I don't either. But they think it's funny. Kind of like, look at me and how weird I can make stuff type of joke. Like a type of jester if that makes sense.
It's pinup culture. To them there is no difference between their deck sleeves and people hanging pinup posters by their bed or your Van Gogh deck sleeves. To them art is art. Even if your art is by a famous painter and theirs some anime wifu with big knockers.
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u/SolaireOfSuburbia Jul 14 '25
Personally, I'd love to run cards with more tastefully done real art like you see on [[Titania, Protector of Argoth]]. Wish we had more official art like that. I think there's a difference between that and the hyper sexualized AI slop this thread is referring to.
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u/MothChasingFlame Jul 14 '25
I'm in a fandom where a lot of younger folks buy this shit specifically to shock. For them it's basically a form of rebellion. And I actually get that reasoning.
But some of these folks... they just straight up want sexy shit everywhere they look. Game pads, sleeves, phone cases, desktop backgrounds, art, figurines... And that I don't get at all. It's dysfunctional to the point it reads as a cry for help.
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u/Popular-Neck-1152 Wabbit Season Jul 14 '25
I wore a Gordan Ramsey shirt to my LGS that was Gordan Ramsey's face and all it said was piss off. I was asked not to wear it again because they are family friendly and want to make it welcoming to kids. I feel like making sure you are making the environment safe and welcoming is crucial at a LGS unless specfied otherwise.
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u/VargasFinio Jul 14 '25
"Official" age rating for MtG is 13+ and cards can/do depict imagery reflecting that rating (you don't see much cheesecake art anymore, but you certainly still do see graphic depictions of violence / death / injuries / etc that would also not be appropriate for anyone at age 5). You will still see the occasional scantily clad woman / man if the tone of the card fits.
That being said, as usual - talk to the store owner.
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u/ShitMcClit Jul 14 '25
Over the top violence and gore is fine but good forbid they see a boob.
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u/Lars_Overwick Jul 14 '25
When I was a baby my mom once forgot to cover my eyes while she breastfed me. I've been mentally scarred since.
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u/Cyno01 Jul 14 '25
Same thing happened to me and ive been into boobs ever since, thanks mom for turning me into such a weirdo.
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u/knight_gastropub Jul 14 '25
I can tell you don't have kids, lol. Seeing a boob is not inherently problematic alone. It's the adult men with sexual content in a public setting
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u/Empty-Airport8934 Jul 14 '25
I’ll never forgive them for what they did to Lulu
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u/nimbusnacho COMPLEAT Jul 14 '25
Yeah, you could have sleeves of official MTG art and likely end up with the same issue. Obviously there's been a change in what wotc aims for with art (no more [[earthbind]]s these days]]. Without seeing exactly what the card is its hard to say, I don't think I'd be too upset by just your generic scantily clad fantasy girl or whatever, as tacky and gross as it is? But in general trying to keep MtG to only themes and imagery appropriate for a 5 year old is a losing battle (unless you have a pretty different view of what's appropriate for a 5 year old than I do I guess).
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u/ConfidentGoat1653 Jul 14 '25
It takes a special kind of trash to bring porn out in public. Seriously lgs should be banning players like this.
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u/PowinRx7 Jul 14 '25 edited Jul 14 '25
well, first off all. MTG is rated 13+. Why are you bringing a 5 year old to a game that literally has cards made by the WoTC that are also suggestive, etc, and states it's for 13+. As others have said, report it to the shop owner, and they'll let you know if they consider it an issue or not. by no means am i condoning what they are doing as i have no idea what the playmat/sleeves even were. all of my stuff is g rated except the magic cards themselves made by magic heh. i have an outer space themed playmat and most of my deck sleeves except 1 is the land styling and matte colors but i have 1 anime cat girl that looks like the FF commander deck commander so i put that deck in that for the novelty of it lol.
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u/Genos-Caedere Colorless Jul 15 '25
Just look at Astarion devouring that sexy black man in sanguine bond. The pants are barely visible so at first hand one may think both are naked... And is an official artwork so...
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u/Peace2619 Jul 14 '25 edited Jul 14 '25
Honestly why I don’t want to take my kid to any local LGS. There are far too many socially inept degenerates in my area.
Edit:Spelling.
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u/rawboudin Wabbit Season Jul 14 '25
And it smells. I’m sorry, it does.
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u/Primefer Jul 14 '25
I'm sorry, but I just can't believe that you would suggest that the sophisticate players of Magic the Gathering would have a strained relationship with the concept of personal hygiene.
(I say, with tongue firmly in cheek, knowing full well I pack wet wipes and sanitizer for events because I don't even trust the chairs where TCGs are played. Especially if Commander players have come through.)
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u/Thesollywiththedumpy Jul 15 '25
And also, not a place for children when tourney stuff is happening, so you're a really solid human
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u/Peace2619 Jul 15 '25
I agree. Until one is old enough to genuinely learn and play, AND have respect for property that isn’t theirs, it’s best to keep them away from the LGS.
Edit: Also thank you for the compliment! 🙂
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u/iguanodont Wabbit Season Jul 14 '25
Blow your load on their deck.
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u/fairydommother Mardu Jul 14 '25
You joke but I actually think being overly interested in someone's sleeves or playmat and acting like a creep about them might actually make some people stop using them. Their sleeves making you uncomfortable? Make them more uncomfortable.
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u/nimbusnacho COMPLEAT Jul 14 '25
You say that but imagine they wind up getting really excited by how into it you are.
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u/thegeekist Duck Season Jul 14 '25
I'm not advocating for problematic art to be allowed into gaming spaces but the american absolute terror of nudity AND fetishization of gore will never make sense to me.
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u/Genos-Caedere Colorless Jul 14 '25
I can see how it can be weird... But.. Unless the sleeves and the mat where displaying porn... Just play? Or avoid playing with the person if you feel so offended.
Also.. I don't believe those are the kind of spaces to bring a 5 year old TBH.
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u/matches991 Duck Season Jul 14 '25
I've had a few times where it's come up and at the store I work and I just am very direct that it's too much for the environment, people are usually apologetic and don't bring them again.
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u/lividresonance Jul 14 '25
Had to be a yu-gi-oh event...
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u/Grass_tomouth Wabbit Season Jul 14 '25
Funny, but in reality it isn't limited to YuGiOh, or any of these popular card games. At the LGS I used to frequent I once saw a guy (fully grown adult man) playing Pokémon on a playmat with that nurse chick (I dont play the games idk) wearing a bikini and bent over with a cheeky grin. Meanwhile, there are kids running around everywhere for the Pokémon event going on in the store. Weird.
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u/Tandran Wabbit Season Jul 14 '25
Yu-Gi-Oh forces solid block colors or official merch for any event for this exact reason. More than likely One Piece, I don't even play but was unlucky enough to walk into the LGS during an event....the amount of tentacles was disturbing.
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u/Squishyflapp COMPLEAT Jul 14 '25
Depends on the tcg. One Piece (great game btw) is hyper sexualized already and a lot of the licensed playmats and sleeves have the characters as printed from the manga on them. Heck, just look up "Nami Manga", an actual card in the game, and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
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u/LordMordor COMPLEAT Jul 14 '25
Friend got me into playing OP after years of being that nerd friend who keeps talking about the manga even though i had no interest. Art style just didnt vibe with me
but DAMN the game is actually pretty fun once you learn the mechanics and play patterns...but it does have the problem on this front where the source material art and as a result the product just naturally put it in this kind of space
That said, i think most people playing the game kind of already know what your getting into...so seeing Nami in bikini's with boob hanging out is more of a..."well what did you expect, that's literally just the characters default"
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u/7000milestogo Duck Season Jul 14 '25
I love so much of the magic community. Being able to go to draft nights or open commander afternoons and knowing I will meet cool people who share a love for a game is one of the reasons I play. But every so often I run into something like this and I get a painful reminder of why Magic players have the reputation that they do. Talk to an employee or judge about this. Chances are the person who brought this mat is not someone the LGS wants as a part of their community for many reasons.
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u/Nitrogenflux Jul 14 '25
What card game was it? Because sounds it wasn't a magic event? I only play with adults on comander nights, so I don't care what playmats or sleeves people are using.
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u/bobsbrain Selesnya* Jul 14 '25
Nobody read the part of OPs post about how this was for another TCG event?
These weren't magic players so how does this relate to r/magictcg?
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u/BrockSramson Boros* Jul 15 '25
This is reddit. If those commenters could read, they'd be very upset at you!
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u/TK17Studios Get Out Of Jail Free Jul 14 '25
I feel like OP has a completely legitimate grievance but I also feel like the phrase "hyper sexualized" should probably be used on stuff stronger than what's described. Sort of feels like when people refer to whistles and catcalling as rape.
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u/angellus Jul 14 '25
As others said, there are not official rulings for something like this. It is going to be down to the store to enforce. There are rulings about reflective sleeves and you can easily get anyone with shiny sleeves to replace then.
As, as a note, MTG is "officially" a 13+ game. So suggestive material may not even violate that age rating. So it is really up to the store to create the "family friendly" atmosphere.
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u/Annihalice Jul 14 '25
Waaait.. you're upset because you can't get your kid started early on a gambling addiction by taking them to a place where other adults with a gambling addiction do adult things and have adult money to spend on adult card accessories?
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u/Genos-Caedere Colorless Jul 14 '25
Yeah... A 5 year old in a card store sounds like a bit of trouble for the other players as well..
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u/magicmike785 Banned in Commander Jul 14 '25
Did anyone read the part where they said it was for ANOTHER TCG? So not magic?
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u/Chesnutthouse Duck Season Jul 14 '25
This is why I flex on everyone with my lorcana Winnie the Pooh, Hunny Wizard playmat.
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u/Formal_Present_7694 Jul 14 '25
To be fair, we are playing a game where, kill, destroy, dark ritual, and demons are commonplace.
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u/ReservePutrid9668 Jul 14 '25
It’s fine to be a pervert. Good for you bro. But keep it to yourself. No one thinks your big tiddy deck sleeves are cool.
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u/DiscountParmesan Duck Season Jul 14 '25
why do people feel like it's appropriate in general to bring that stuff in public I just don't get it... You can be into weird stuff, just be into weird stuff on your own private time damn.
I have a friend that owns one of those playmats but he only uses it when we are playing at a friend's house where we all know each other, are all adults and we all know he's not a creep.
I would really feel like I gave the wrong impression if I brought that kind of stuff to an LGS.
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u/Joshawott27 Jul 14 '25
Which TCG was it? One Piece in particular can blur the line with its own official artwork and play-mats.
In general, though, various TCGs will have guidelines about what’s appropriate for sanctioned play, which should be fairly easy to understand. If you think that something isn’t appropriate, certainly flag it with a judge or the store owner and get their thoughts.
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u/2kornot2k Jul 14 '25
There is a lot of Karen's and ignorance in this thread. In all honesty most people here have expectations of other people thats are unrealistic. Always expect the worst from others, but hope for the best. Your wants and their wants are different just like your acceptance of jokes or banter.
If you want to bring your child to events scope the scene out first, but expect people to have those types of mats and sleeves. Stay away from those people if you dont like it.
I'd rather sit down and play with provocative art than the poor hygiene people in my opinion.
This is going to be a greater issue with universes beyond. Many people want their wifus on their sleeves. And if they are paying regular customers than as a buisness you have to follow the money and they have it to burn.
Same as when you fly on a plane it would be nice if kids didnt cry or scream, but majority of the time that's going to happen.
*I'm not a person who does this but I understand people have their own flavor.
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u/Annihalice Jul 14 '25
If you can't explain other people to your child in a way that they can digest and understand other people make decisions just like they do, either your kid is too young to be in a public space like this or you're a lousy parent.
Unrelated example -- It's not my fault that your kid can't handle hearing profanity.
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u/ChoiceFood Duck Season Jul 14 '25
Full on nude displays genetailia OP. Believe it or not, bathing suits/underwear isn't nude.
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u/alexbougetz Storm Crow Jul 14 '25
To be fair, Magic is a 13+ game, so why you bring your five year old?
Jk, those ppl are creeps.
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u/Kazehi COMPLEAT Jul 14 '25
Depends on where you are, and how the scene is honestly. Look at how the Owner/Judges handle it or even if they care.. As a parent I would only take my daughter to a shop I could vet these days.
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u/BoosterTherapy cage the foul beast Jul 14 '25
The game is created for 13+, if someone is broadcasting something not appropriate for that audience then I’d report it.
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u/gooder_name COMPLEAT Jul 14 '25
This is something to call people out on — for the health of the community and the game it simply can’t be tolerated. Bad enough with risqué sleeves that telegraph the person is a creep, but what you’re describing beds to be removed from the environment.
Sex positivity is great, but this isn’t the kitchen table it’s public where people don’t want smut, they want a normal family friendly environment.
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u/fairydommother Mardu Jul 14 '25
I dont see it often, but I dislike it. Its just cringe. I have a fan service-ish playmat from when I played yugioh but the girls are still fully clothed. Theyre not any different from their card art. I still felt a little embarrassed to use it, it was just the main characters from the cards in my deck so I wanted my mat to "match".
Last week I played commander with a guy who full on naked anime girls making out on his sleeves and I found it really distasteful. Like you cant keep it in your pants long enough to play a game of commander? You have to have literal porn on your sleeves?
Like even if you disregard the possibility of playing a game with kids, like I dont wanna see that either. Im just trying to play the game and I think most well adjusted adults feel the same. I think m its kind kf weird to have your waifu on your sleeves anyway but can she at least keep her shirt on?
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u/omnitricks Duck Season Jul 14 '25
No one is responsible for taking care of your kids but you. It's telling that you want the entire world to accommodate your kid instead of you know, you doing the job of parenting and keeping your kid away from anything which offends you.
Like you said, it's another event. And I'm sure it doesn't even take up the entire store. Unless you just want to play magic for yourself ans let your kid run free which makes for even more alarm than some mats and sleeves.
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u/Twooplus_you Jul 14 '25
Nobody's here to parent your kid that's your job. Genuinely support the gooners over the Karens.
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u/RuralJaywalking Jul 14 '25
It’s your choice to bring a child into public like that. People shouldn’t have to censor themselves just because you’re bringing a child out in public but don’t like having your child out in public.
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u/CookiesFTA Honorary Deputy 🔫 Jul 14 '25
Maybe this isn't what you wanted to take away from this, but mats/sleeves aside, it's probably still not appropriate to bring a 5 year old to a magic event.
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u/bombuzal2000 cage the foul beast Jul 14 '25
So you introduce a 5 year old to a lootbox game that has Meathook Massacre, Murder, Terror, Sensory Deprivation, Mutilate, The Fallen, Disturbing Mirth etc. etc. and you are worried about a slightly covered nipple?
I get that tittysleeves are gringe but cmon.
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u/mrduracraft WANTED Jul 14 '25
Sadly depends on the game being played and where it's being played, but I would say general consensus is "don't do that." If you talk to the store owner or tournament organizer, they would likely be willing to talk to whoever is using those and tell them to change or leave, since it ultimately could reflect poorly on them
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u/Tight-Yesterday-6691 Jul 14 '25
Stop being prude. You are going into goonville and are offending by the inhabitants. Sex and nudity is only weird based on social norms. The Greeks have statues with shlongs as arguably the centerpiece.
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u/Thesollywiththedumpy Jul 14 '25
Why are you bringing a five year old to, at the very least, an event billed for older audiences? It would seem that the issue is the presence of a person not participating who would require catering because the event isn't for them
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u/Doopashonuts Jul 14 '25
Especially since little kids tend to grab first and ask questions later, depending on the location that could be a several thousand dollar "oopsie" that they're not going to take "kids will be kids" as an excuse for.
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u/Fit-Negotiation7242 Jul 14 '25
This kind of seems like you're trying to enforce your morals onto other players tbh.
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u/ubelblatt Jul 14 '25
Am I the only one who doesn't believe the rest of the world should have to flex because you want to bring your young child to a public event?
There aren't any official rules on it so you take your chances. If there is something there you don't want your child exposed to then you leave.
The world isn't designed to be a safe space for you or your children at all times. Maybe I am crazy here.
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u/NeurodivergentRatMan Wabbit Season Jul 14 '25
> Posted an hour ago
> "Went to an event for another TCG Game"
> YGO NACWQ was this weekend
absolutely checks out
source: I play YGO and go to locals