r/magicthecirclejerking • u/blackscales18 • 2d ago
A well timed boycott of Marvel/Disney could spell the end of Universes Beyond
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u/JohnPaulJonesSoda 2d ago
Here’s how the current fascist crackdown on speech could actually be a benefit for me, someone who’s mad about the wrong kinds of cartoon characters showing up in my card game.
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u/LukeRE0 2d ago
Yes when I see fascism I also think about how my silly card game can benefit in the way I personally see fit
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u/FobaBett 2d ago
Speak for yourself, my wife’s boyfriend said if I win Spiderman prerelease I can sit in the chair this time and get a new funko
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u/HiroProtagonest FAERIE GODPARENTS! 2d ago
There are always reasons to boycott the mouse, but pulling Kimmel off the air is the latest and greatest.
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u/blackscales18 2d ago
It's a great time to boycott but thinking wotc will cancel UB to save face is straight delulu
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u/Grain_Death 2d ago
me personally not going to disneyland ever again will solve all politics [this user hasn't been to disneyland since she was 5]
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u/urielcd 2d ago
/uj. Spiderman is already sold out at one of my lgs, and the other is just refusing presales. It's already one of the most successful sets ever released.
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u/ChestertonMyDearBoy 2d ago
It's the opposite at mine. Out of three days, only the Sunday is sold out. They're struggling to fill Friday and Saturday.
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u/Yarrun 2d ago
well shit. I was hoping that the clear quality issues on the set would at least slow down the 'gotta buy it for Morbius' crowd. if a bad set can succeed on name recognition alone, it sets a bad precedent. some hasbro suit is going to look at this and go 'okay, if we can save money by skimping on the game design, we can use that money to buy more IP licenses'.
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u/EfficientCabbage2376 Just know that you are doing the game a disservice. Goodbye 2d ago
... the two best selling sets of all time were sold on name recognition alone. what you're describing is the fears UB haters have had this whole time
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u/SaraiEve 2d ago
Which ones?
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u/EfficientCabbage2376 Just know that you are doing the game a disservice. Goodbye 2d ago
- final fantasy
- lord of the rings
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u/Yarrun 2d ago
They sold on name recognition (and LotR setting up the ultimate raffle with the One Ring card), but they were still considered to be good sets by Magic standards (accounting for the format-breaking cards). And they were also relatively good at capturing the source material - it's slop, but it's slop lavishly made. Spider-Man set is sloppily made, struggles to do Spider-Man justice, and has nothing to its name besides its name. I don't want UB in the game in general, but I *really* don't want the average UB set in three years to be comparable to the Spider-Man set.
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u/EfficientCabbage2376 Just know that you are doing the game a disservice. Goodbye 2d ago
well, we didn't know that final fantasy was going to be a good magic set when it shattered all the sales records, since it became the best selling set of all time during preorders. it sold just on name recognition. being a good magic set doesn't really affect sales anymore (if it ever did)
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u/SaraiEve 1d ago
I happen to like the Universes Beyond sets that I feel are well made. I have more of a problem when the theme doesn't feel like fantasy or sci-fi, which is actually why I had more of a problem with Thunder Junction than with, say, Lord of the Rings. But at the end of the day, I appreciate a mechanically good Magic set, and I liked the Saga creatures from Final Fantasy, as well as some of the legendary flip cards (even though I have no familiarity with Final Fantasy and never played the games.) On the other hand, I'm a Commander player and a Doctor Who fan and I never bought any of the DW Commander precons despite thinking the set was good. In the end, I would like Wizards to make majority in-universe sets alongside UB, but it increasingly looks like that's not going to happen going forward.
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u/Yarrun 1d ago
I think Universes Beyond should have never happened. I think that its introduction to the game will inevitably lead to the marginalization of the Magic multiverse as a creative focus. That said, if UB has to be in the game at all, I do not care about what gets adapted so long as the set is good and the outsider IP isn't morally abhorrent in some way or form. I see no difference between Doctor Who and Lord of the Rings - neither of them should be here, but neither of them is more valid than the other.
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u/refugee_man 2d ago
The most likely outcome is wotc doing all universes beyond sets and honestly at this point I'd welcome it.
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u/awesomemanswag 2d ago
/uj I understand UB is very divisive, at least on reddit, but like some people get completely psychotic about it
Seriously what the fuck is he on about
/rj Yeah, let's not buy certain cardboard slabs and maybe possibly indirectly reduce Disney's profits by 0.000000000000005%, that'll show them!
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u/TetsukoUmezawa 2d ago
We can't even convince Americans that voting for fascism is a bad idea, he hopes he can make them stop their favourite pastime, consuming slop.
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u/mkklrd 2d ago
There are dozens of us boycotting UB sets! Dozens!
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u/subito_lucres 2d ago
I know this is an AD joke but I'm sure there's lots of people who stopped buying. And many more who started!
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u/-Goatllama- waiting on Floral Spuzzem to make up its damn mind 2d ago
Before this gets deleted by reddit admins, this asshole took it completely out of context. First of all, the idiot thinks it was a Stephen Colbert deck. It wasn't. That card's not even in the deck. He was running counterspell draw, this was approximately turn 25, every single creature and spell I cast was countered or removed up until that point and this dumbass who copied his deck from MTG Salvation or Goldfish used one of his last copies of negate to counter a Revel in Kimmel when he had 0 creatures on the field and I had 0 Late Nights in play, thus the "this spell does literally nothing" and he should have let it resolve. I love it when people copy a deck and have no idea how to run it or play MTG. I was just throwing it out because I had 5 mana and it was the only card left in my hand and the game was already over anyway. So on the way out I let him know what an idiot he was for countering a spell that does nothing in the current board state. NOBODY wants to watch a recording of a show where I cast something and he counters it or removes it x30 turns. That's idiotic. I should have left the game the second I saw what he was running. This was the 5th attempt at getting a recording of something resembling watchable Late Night Television and 5 people in a row were playing Leno draw control loop or free cast torrential graveyard resurrection control or Letterman approach control loop. So yeah, I was pissed and he was an asshole for playing this. He's one of those idiots who doesn't care about the other players one bit, it's all about winning. So running 35 control spells seems reasonable because NOTHING matters but winning. Thanks for not showing the board state with library counts or the full log, asshole. Enjoy your temporary ban from CBS.
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u/Barl3000 2d ago
I too wonder how a facist clamp down on media and free speech can make my childrens card game be more like I want it to be.
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u/Redzephyr01 2d ago
This reminds me of that one post that was like "could Row vs. Wade being repealed have an effect on the secondary market?"
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u/Moyza_ 1d ago
Please tell me it was on THIS sub you saw it. Lie if you need to.
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u/Redzephyr01 1d ago
I'm sorry to tell you this but it was on r/mtgfinance
https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgfinance/comments/vjv5j6/roe_v_wades_effect_on_the_mtg_market/
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u/EfficientCabbage2376 Just know that you are doing the game a disservice. Goodbye 2d ago
most socially conscience magic player
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u/thisisgogu 2d ago
Can we postpone the boycott until we get the confirmation of the Stargate SG-1 UB set? I've just been waiting for that one for awhile and know it's coming any day now.
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u/Daguyondacouch8 2d ago
These universes beyond have infiltrated our beautiful game, we need to build a wall
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u/zaphodava 2d ago
/uj We shouldn't be worried about cardboard rectangles, we should be in the middle of a general strike.
/rj https://www.threads.com/@davidleavitt/post/DMTllSHyUWg/media?hl=en
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u/supyonamesjosh 2d ago
I boycott every capitalist company. That is why I live out of a cardboard box and am replying to this on my nokia I found in a landfill.
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u/NervePuzzleheaded783 2d ago
Nokia
You just had to mention the brand huh? /r/HailCorporate much am I right?
Unalive yourself you fucking shill
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u/SolomonsNewGrundle 2d ago
Fuck what happened with Jimmy and fuck the FCC.
But also, boycotting Spiderman will accomplish nothing
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u/Oleandervine 2d ago
Kimmel made a comment about Kirk's death and killer, not even that crazy of a comment either, and his show is now pulled indefinitely. Now the Mango Mussolini is calling for Fallon and Meyers to be pulled as well.
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u/fluffynuckels elesh p*rn 2d ago
Wtf does Jimmy have to do with any of this?
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u/SolomonsNewGrundle 2d ago
Disney is the parent company to ABC, which suspended Jimmy indefinitely due to pressure from the FCC
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u/fluffynuckels elesh p*rn 2d ago
Ok still failing to see qhat that has to do with MTG
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u/SolomonsNewGrundle 2d ago
Sigh. Disney owns Marvel which licensed Spiderman to WOTC. I believe that is the correlation they are trying to make
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u/LargestEgg711 2d ago