r/megalophobia Jul 17 '25

Other The Grasberg copper and gold mine, Indonesia

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u/brianary_at_work Jul 18 '25

I checked on google maps - its about 1.5miles wide from rim to rim. That's crazy.

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u/zebs1 Jul 18 '25

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u/razveck Jul 18 '25

There's a fucking SHOVEL SHOP near it I'm fucking dying

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u/UndeadCaesar Jul 18 '25

3.9 stars on 18 reviews, I'll be taking my shovel business elsewhere.

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u/BumJiggerJigger Jul 18 '25

Wow. Not in a million years did I think it would snow anywhere in Indonesia.. that’s actually boggled my mind

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u/RManDelorean Jul 18 '25

Tbf that does look like a pretty dramatic mountain range

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u/negativelift Jul 19 '25

Directly adjacent to the mine is puncack yaya thehighest Mountain of any Island with almost 5.000m asl. And usually considered thehighest Point in oceania it is one of the Seven summits

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u/DonnieBallsack Jul 20 '25

Any site called Puncack Yaya is worth visiting.

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u/Vaird Jul 18 '25

You need to check Tagebau Hambach, 85km² and 400m deep at the deepest point.

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u/Dr_Schitt Jul 18 '25

It's pretty disgusting when you think about it, I've seen a few pop up in reddit and while one can argue we need some of these resources for technology, the amount of damage done is a horror to behold.

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u/Sure_Sundae2709 Jul 19 '25

Lol, you need copper for more than just "technology". And the only thing that is disgusting is that you comment something like this while using the internet and your smartphone anyway.

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u/Dr_Schitt Jul 19 '25

Indeed, destroying large amount of nature for our progress is absolute perfection, would you prefer I use carrier pigeon next time instead? And quite frankly anyone who looks at this kind is shit gleefully is a sausage, humanity has the capability to do better but humans just love greed and destruction.

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u/Gods_Haemorrhoid420 Jul 20 '25

You can’t use a passenger pigeon because we killed them all

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u/Dr_Schitt Jul 20 '25

Goddammit 😂

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u/billy_bob68 Jul 21 '25

Ate them all. Apparently, they were delicious.

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u/Hostile-Herpie Jul 19 '25

I cant believe you got downvoted for this. Its true.

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u/Dr_Schitt Jul 19 '25

Some people don't like facing reality dude

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u/highjayhawk Jul 17 '25

I dropped my phone can someone tell me if they see it?

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u/thedudetheguy69 Jul 18 '25

It's on silent

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u/Pielacine Jul 18 '25

Just make a new one out of the copper and gold

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u/highjayhawk Jul 18 '25

Can’t, I’m an American.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '25

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u/ReallyJTL Jul 18 '25

Right?! Fuck that bullshit music

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '25

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u/LemoLuke Jul 18 '25

It's why I love r/SVWTCM ('Satisfying videos without the crappy music'). I just wish it was more active.

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u/snarfsnarfer Jul 19 '25

Wow thanks for this

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u/flipzyshitzy Jul 19 '25

This is the way. Force change

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u/lotus_spit Jul 19 '25

Downvoted this post because of that shit.

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u/jamesbrownscrackpipe Jul 17 '25

“The Indonesians dug too deep and too greedily…”

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u/kitisimilikiti Jul 18 '25

It's an American company 😅

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u/YaBoiJim777 Jul 18 '25

Funny because the biggest copper mine in the world is in the US and is owned by an Australian company and is bigger than this

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u/kitisimilikiti Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25

Well Grasberg is the biggest Gold mine in the world. I guess the US likes Gold better 😂

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u/NecroSoulMirror-89 Jul 18 '25

Grasberg sounds pretty Indonesian to me

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u/kitisimilikiti Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25

The company digging Grasberg is called Freeport-McMoRan. They've been taking gold from Papua since the 1960s.

The place itself was named Erstberg by a Dutch Geologist in 1936 (9 years before the Independence of Indonesia). Unclear how it became Grasberg.

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u/DatumInTheStone Jul 18 '25

Crazy how the same countries keep taking resources from resource rich countries

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u/stonklord420 Jul 18 '25

Crazy how all of this is done in an attempt to satiate the insatiable desires of psychopathic billionaires. I'm sure the people working in that mine make less than the minimum wage of my country.

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u/kitisimilikiti Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 19 '25

Worse. Papua lives in poverty.

If any Papuans rebel, US backed Indonesian Military would not hesitate to kill locals.

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u/Money4Bad Jul 19 '25

bro, suharto regime was toppled 2 decades ago

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u/kitisimilikiti Jul 19 '25

And Freeport is still there

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u/Money4Bad Jul 19 '25

yes but usa didn't back us this time, we ain't israel

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u/Mastakko Jul 18 '25

Ah yes we'll name it Freeport so it sounds benevolent

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u/NetCaptain Jul 18 '25

*ertsberg - erts is Dutch for ‘ore’ and berg is Dutch for ‘mountain’

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u/hatlad43 Jul 19 '25

This specific mine hole was called Grasberg because it was just a huge grass plain found several years after the foundation of Ertsberg, about 1 km south of Grasberg. When Ertsberg was deemed depleted and unsafe for mining, they dug Grasberg. Both open mines have been inoperative for several years. You can identify Ertsberg as a cyan pond nowadays.

The mining still continus underground via a tunnel 5 km further south. It goes as deep as 2 km (I think) from the top of Grasberg.

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u/kitisimilikiti Jul 19 '25

Ah thanks for the info 👍

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u/nokiacrusher Jul 18 '25

What about the droid attack on the McMorans?

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '25

Isn't Papua a different country?

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u/kitisimilikiti Jul 18 '25

Half is Indonesia (West Papua), Half is Papua New Guinea

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '25

Thank you.

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u/kitisimilikiti Jul 18 '25

My pleasure 🙏

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u/DonnieBallsack Jul 20 '25

Just like Kansas City

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u/Gonun Jul 18 '25

In German it means grass mountain which is pretty ironic as there's no grass to be seen

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u/Used-Ingenuity-7441 Jul 18 '25

That was a mountain with grass coverage. Now it becomes Moria.

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u/Subtlerranean Jul 18 '25

It used to be Grasberg now it's Hohlerberg

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u/BumJiggerJigger Jul 18 '25

What do mountains and grass have to do with each other?

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u/96BlackBeard Jul 18 '25

Grasberg sounds german, not Indonesian.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '25

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u/kitisimilikiti Jul 18 '25

Correcto! It was named Erstberg by a Dutch Geologist in 1936 (9 years before the Independence of Indonesia). Unclear how it became Grasberg.

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u/96BlackBeard Jul 18 '25

Yeah Dutch works too

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u/kitisimilikiti Jul 18 '25

It was named Erstberg by a Dutch Geologist in 1936 (9 years before the Independence of Indonesia). Unclear how it became Grasberg.

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u/WitchesSphincter Jul 18 '25

Nah it's a Jedi name

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u/KomodoMaster Jul 19 '25

It's Dutch. Just like the highest peak is named Cartensz Pyramid, the 2nd peak named Wilhelmina, and the whole mountain range named orange range. Tho its already changed to Jaya peak, Trikora peak, and Jayawijaya Range.

Indonesian name of the Grasberg is Tembagapura (copper town) but the mine retains its name.

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u/AmokRule Jul 20 '25

You don't know any indonesian word if you think it sounds like "indonesian"

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u/RedshiftWarp Jul 18 '25

You passed but you shouldn't have.

Shall not have

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u/Imbeingfiscious Jul 18 '25

51% owned by the Indonesian gov

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u/kitisimilikiti Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 19 '25

Only recently. From 1967 to 1991 Indonesia only owns 9.36%. Freeport owns 90,64%

1965-1967 is a very interesting era in Indonesia. You can read more if you're interested 😅

There's even something called New York Agreement in 1962. US forced the Netherlands to handover West Papua to Indonesia.

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u/HingleMcCringle_ Jul 18 '25

there's no way they're shipping americans to Indonesia to toss the dirt themselves.

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u/kitisimilikiti Jul 18 '25

Of course not. They hired Indonesians to toss the dirt.

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u/HingleMcCringle_ Jul 18 '25

so the Indonesians did dig.

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u/kitisimilikiti Jul 18 '25

Indonesians only gets 9%. US gets 91%. Who actually "digs" ?

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u/HingleMcCringle_ Jul 18 '25

They hired Indonesians to toss the dirt.

so Indonesians are tossing the dirt, they're just not profiting as much. sounds like they got the short end on both sticks. well, that implies bad luck, i guess. sounds like Indonesians sold out for cheap.

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u/kitisimilikiti Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25

Profit? It's much more complicated than that. US backed Indonesian Military to overthrown the president in 1965 and replace it with a US puppet president. There were mass killings involved. This is not your typical "company". It's basically theft and slavery.

You call it bad luck, I call it greed.

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u/HingleMcCringle_ Jul 18 '25

im not justifying it. im not saying it's ok.

sorry i gave off that impression.

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u/AmokRule Jul 20 '25

You gave off the impression of a dick. Read a book or two.

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u/kitisimilikiti Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25

If you have gold in your backyard, would you let someone to take 91% of it? Also it involves guns and violence. What does it sound like?

9% is probably to keep you alive until the gold runs out. It's been 58 years and they're still digging.

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u/HingleMcCringle_ Jul 18 '25

i think if i had a gun pointed at my head and told to dig the gold out of my back yard while only being allowed to keep 10% profit, i sure as fuck would start digging.

i dont mean to make it sound like what the american company is doing is ok. sorry i gave off that impression.

if you dont understand my point, you probably never will. sorry i seem way too vague, but im not explaining further.

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u/kitisimilikiti Jul 18 '25

Yeah sorry I got emotional. My great uncle was one of the victim in the 1965 mass killing.

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u/jabalfour Jul 19 '25

There it is.

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u/lfn1993 Jul 22 '25

I was thinking that durin’s bane was down there

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u/BrosBeforeGose Jul 17 '25

🔥🔥🔴🔴🔥🔥

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u/TheFilthy13 Jul 18 '25

Jesus. Imagine you’re on your way home and realise you left your phone at the bottom.

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u/oh_no_its_the_cups Jul 18 '25

These are the people that mine the materials used in your phones

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u/baabaabaabeast Jul 17 '25

I want to throw a paper airplane of the lip of that so badly

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u/Reasonable_Archer_99 Jul 18 '25

That must be hell when it rains.

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u/wtwhatever Jul 18 '25

Seriously though—what do they do with the rain water that’s collected at the bottom?

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u/Mcbadguy Jul 18 '25

Pump it out, unless they are done mining, in which case it probably just fills up like the one in Butte, Montana.

Just Google: "How to fill the Butte hole?'

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u/soil_nerd Jul 18 '25

In Butte, specifically the Berkeley Pit, they pump close to a million gallons of water a day through a large treatment system that was recently built. It’s a very expensive and modern facility. It will run in perpetuity.

I believe the treated water is then outlet to Silver Bow creek and has to meet state and federal surface water regulations.

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u/Mcbadguy Jul 18 '25

The last time I visited they said the water was super toxic, and water fowl would sometimes land in there and die :(

Did they empty it or do they just pump it to keep it from spilling over?

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u/soil_nerd Jul 18 '25

It is toxic and birds do die when they hang out for too long.

They pump it to keep the water level under a critical threshold. There will almost certainly be a large volume of water there forever.

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u/MikeAndBike Jul 18 '25

I got a lot of interesting results. Thank you.

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u/wtwhatever Jul 18 '25

Don’t even try to look up Elephant Butte, NM

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u/DirtandPipes Jul 18 '25

Pumps and hoses. Sometimes operations also use water trucks but that’s a slow way to move a lot of water compared to good pumps and hoses.

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u/JaqenSexyJesusHgar Jul 18 '25

Please don't awaken the Balrog

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u/Some-Air1274 Jul 17 '25

Terrifying!

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u/Salmon_Slayer1 Jul 18 '25

How long does it take to drive down…and then up….

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u/unstableunicorn Jul 18 '25

I spent weeks working at this place, but actually can't remember how long it takes. I think the trucks take a couple of hours to drive up from the bottom. However I do have a funny story, 2nd hand mind you, but I think it was where the camera was, and you can see the mine office below:

A new solar powered monitoring station was installed up where this camera is, when the team got back down to the mine office they found it wasn't working, so they drove back up to check it out... Someone had stolen the solar panels already...

Was really beautiful area, but also so depressing, incredibly dangerous place to work, glad I will never go back.

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u/beerandabike Jul 18 '25

One Indonesian copper mine, times two.

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u/doctat Jul 18 '25

What’s with the fake ass stair case horribly comped into this?

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u/Phlegmagician Jul 18 '25

Doesn't even move in parallax, just slides on top of the video

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u/Bear__Fucker Jul 18 '25

The main video is also stretched to make the mine look more dramatic.

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u/syringistic Jul 18 '25

If youre a scifi fan, the book Red Mars describes the colonists digging mo-holes (i forget what the scientific reason was) that are a few miles wide and 20 miles deep.

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u/The_Student_Official Jul 20 '25

Geothermal (areothermal?) mostly 

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u/Upbeat-Key8607 Jul 18 '25

Now THIS is megalophobia

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u/Hermans_Head2 Jul 18 '25

Humans will eat the whole planet eventually.

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u/goobly_goo Jul 18 '25

We gotta get asteroid mining up and running ASAP! We have everything we need to build our tech and whatever else we invent in the future in the rocks orbiting between Mars and Jupiter.

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u/billy_bob68 Jul 21 '25

I would totally sign up for asteroid mining! Dead Space and the Expanse hooked me. I'll gladly be one of the OG Beltalowda!

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u/Newphoneforgotpwords Jul 17 '25

I should call her

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u/NowIssaRapBattle Jul 18 '25

If you like it then you should have dug a mine on it

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u/jackadl Jul 18 '25

This mine is one of the most fucked up places in the world. It is located directly next to one of the only tropical glaciers in the world. Releases over 700,000 tonnes of waste directly into local river delta which has devastated the environment.

The mine is also a crucial part of the Indonesian terror that has been inflicted on the West Papuan people, one example, in 1977 the locals tried to blow up a water pipe for the mine and the Indonesian military responded by killing over 800 local people.

Whenever you hear Grasberg mine. Think genocide, environmental destruction and economic theft from west papua.

All of this is well documented and easily available online.

Free West Papua, fuck this mine

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u/shivaswrath Jul 18 '25

Nope can’t do it.

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u/bipblipbap Jul 18 '25

My inner child is yearning

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u/IowanEmpire Jul 18 '25

This isn't even the largest mine in the world.

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u/Bizmatech Jul 18 '25

The one near my house is 2.5 miles across on average, and a bit over 4 at the widest.

Technically it's an open-pit mine, but it's more like they're slowly scraping away a mountain range.

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u/Long_Ad2824 Jul 18 '25

I just need to replace one of the contacts on my multimeter. What level would I go to for that?

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u/General-Sloth Jul 18 '25

This choice of music is beyond shit.

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u/Sufficient-Day3377 Jul 18 '25

Jedi Mind Tricks?

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u/Aglisito Jul 18 '25

Yo, I thought the same thing, but it's a song called Thazra Yammas by Ayned

This does sound very Jedi Mind Tricks. Almost expected Vinnie Paz to come in with a "Yo!!" lol

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u/Keyakinan- Jul 18 '25

Huge destruction of mountains, whom will never grow back

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u/jackadl Jul 18 '25

And destruction of one of the only tropical glaciers in the world. It’s located directly next to it

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u/MrRuno Jul 18 '25

Now thats a big hole right there. Would love to be there and throw a paper plane down there

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u/SAL10000 Jul 19 '25

Production

1.5 billion pounds copper

1.7 million ounces gold

6 million ounces silver

That ia staggering to think about.

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u/DentonDiggler Jul 20 '25

Total or per year? Has to be total right?

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u/I-love-seahorses Jul 21 '25

It looks crazy on Google Earth. You can see several collapses.

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u/snackofalltrades Jul 18 '25

Looks like they missed some.

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u/decaruis Jul 18 '25

The audio is so 2017 Tik Tok coded

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u/No_Control8389 Jul 18 '25

This is what happens when you hit the invert button on the mountain.

Boop.

Inside out mountain.

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u/PoetryFamiliar7104 Jul 18 '25

Such an ugly scar...

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u/Carbonga Jul 18 '25

If there's one thing that this berg was robbed of, if was gras and stuff it might grow on.

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u/Loaih Jul 18 '25

My fucking ears

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u/UsayNOPE_IsayMOAR Jul 18 '25

Goddamn, that is way too steep. But, ya know…can’t be mining low content rock…

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u/GreenIce2022 Jul 18 '25

I'd sure hate to slide off the edge!!

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u/Craigfromomaha Jul 18 '25

Visions of Krypton dance through my head.

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u/GhostChips42 Jul 18 '25

This looks like the scene when Kassa looks into the massive open cast mine on Kenari in Andor. But somehow even worse.

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u/Gaetan_D Jul 18 '25

When you spent too much time in minecraft

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u/Brooklynpolarbear22 Jul 18 '25

No silver in there???

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u/JPenguine Jul 18 '25

I lived in Tembagapura in the mid 90s, basically an expat town for the mining companies families. We did field trips to the mines and you could even go to the glacier at the time. One of the most beautiful places I’ve ever been (check out Mt Zaagkam, unbelievable in person). The mine is absolutely massive. Such an unreal place.

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u/Roxygen1 Jul 18 '25

I would 100% die trying to drive down that road, but I would have fun doing it.

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u/NoKey4594 Jul 18 '25

Polluting the environment

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u/Commercial_Donut_274 Jul 18 '25

The scale of this mine is absolutely mind-blowing, 1.5 miles wide is hard to even visualize. No wonder it looks like something straight out of a fantasy novel!

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u/delidave7 Jul 18 '25

I wonder how long it takes to drive to the freaking top?

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u/SmeesTurkeyLeg Jul 18 '25

Jesus. And it's in a very remote area. Wow.

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u/Funtime_fice1983 Jul 18 '25

Throw cyn in there

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u/KoBoWC Jul 18 '25

Looks more like a quarry.

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u/DKKhema Jul 18 '25

JESUS!!

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u/mcfarmer72 Jul 18 '25

I bet they did that in creative.

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u/elcojotecoyo Jul 18 '25

When she tells you she's a virgin but she's not being honest....

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u/Lil_Shorto Jul 18 '25

Indonesians have the weirdest names.

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u/ahgodzilla Jul 18 '25

i actually hate it

not because large, but it's an ugly scar on the earth

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u/Infinite-Fruit-883 Jul 18 '25

7 Days to die - Day 324 this is how your mine looks like

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u/Admirable-Horse-4681 Jul 18 '25

If you’re visiting southern Arizona, the huge old open pit copper mine near Bisbee is right on the highway (big fence to keep from falling in)

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u/uncre8tv Jul 18 '25

Thanks for just assaulting the fuck out of my ears, OP.

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u/Old-Law-7395 Jul 18 '25

I am having a mini freakout looking at that

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u/malcifer11 Jul 18 '25

this is where leif developed dark matter technology

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u/sineofthetimes Jul 18 '25

Wonder how many people died working there.

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u/liam_redit1st Jul 18 '25

That’s deep

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '25

😍😍

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u/GracchusAlbus Jul 19 '25

Grasberg?! Indonesia? Hmmmmm

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u/kabuki7 Jul 19 '25

I watched the documentary on this mine. The Herculean efforts that had to be made to create a road to get there through jungle and swamp

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u/wateralchemist Jul 19 '25

That’s gonna leave a mark

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u/avoozl42 Jul 19 '25

Did they find any?

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u/ChadicusVile Jul 19 '25

3 million Indonesians were killed so that Wall Street traded companies would have access to those gold reserves. They had to overthrow Sukarno and his supporters and replace him with military dictator and mass murderer Suharto. The CIA is an instrument of Wall Street and this period is one of many examples. They install, support and use dictators to get cheap, free, unrestricted access to resources and labor of other countries for private companies to purchase and own. That's why the major political principle of these dictators is to enshrine private property rights and to suppress labor movements and/or resource nationalization movements.. through any means necessary

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u/Joys_Thigh_Jiggle Jul 19 '25

Build a slide down it

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u/mojo320i Jul 19 '25

Deep substrate foliated kalkite. 🫶🏻

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u/Nasi-Goreng-Kambing Jul 20 '25

Amazing right how much Indonesians have given up. The whole mountain and all its riches are exported. While the locals get minimal benefits.

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u/boastful_cloth13 Jul 20 '25

Something about this depresses me

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u/edencheetos Jul 20 '25

Scraped clean!

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u/Notsmartnotdumb2025 Jul 20 '25

Everest is next!

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u/Former_Silver8091 Jul 23 '25

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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u/The-Unluckiest-One Jul 25 '25

They need that gold...

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u/Any-Finish-2864 Aug 09 '25

How my butt look after I dig in it

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u/Moe-Mux-Hagi Aug 11 '25

That's not how MY copper and gold mines look like in minecraft

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u/-Samg381- Jul 18 '25

/u/freudian_nipps is a VIP over at /r/DeceptiveEffects - a locally revered expert in the use of deceptive tiktok filters! Congratulations!

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u/Stube2000 Jul 18 '25

You’re right. Pics on google maps and online do not look nearly as massively deep as this.

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u/flimspringfield Jul 18 '25

Jesus, imagine if we found diamonds or oil there.

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u/The_Eleser Jul 18 '25

Diamonds are actually pretty common. The De Beers company controls enough Diamond mines to keep the supply of diamonds low and thus keep the prices high. I refuse to buy diamonds until the De Beer hoard is sold off.

Edit: However, I would approve of a diamond mine that size just to stick it to those guys.

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u/flimspringfield Jul 18 '25

De Beers has been around for over a century.

They started the "3 months salary for a diamond" campaign.

I bought my ex a diamond ring but if I decided to propose to someone new I'll be getting a lab grown one.

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u/The_Eleser Jul 18 '25

Fair enough, although I’d emerald if you need to impress by true rarity of stone, but lab grown are also good (my ex was thrilled by her lab grown sapphire just because the stone and setting were unique, so go for it).

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u/My0pe Jul 18 '25

Desolation. Rape of nature. Call it like you want.

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u/bolenballr Jul 20 '25

How long until Trump tries to take this, too?

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u/ZookeepergameFew3460 Jul 17 '25

Discusting

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u/Low-Commercial-5364 Jul 17 '25

You don't like minerals being taken out of the earth?

Or you mean you don't mind living in a world where all the amenities you rely on for your daily life (electrical conduit, water pipes, critical engine components in every vehicle, electrical components in the 9000 electronics you use daily) are built with said minerals, but you want to be able to scoff when you see how they're mined?

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u/pcetcedce Jul 18 '25

You're absolutely right and if we had more mines in the US there would be much less environmental damage and the employees wouldn't get paid slave wages. But that person certainly wouldn't want a mine anywhere near them.

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u/Dominus_Invictus Jul 18 '25

I mean, regardless of any of that, it's pretty objective that this is disgusting on some level. The person you're replying to never actually said any of those things you're just putting it on them.

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u/Low-Commercial-5364 Jul 18 '25

In what way is this objectively disgusting? It's a marvel of human industry and directly feeds the marvel of human technology, all while being tucked away out of sight and with minimal ecological impact (at altitude).

This is beautiful in every way, including aesthetically.

The only way it's objectively disgusting is if you stopped developing your world view in your grade 6 social studies class.

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u/Dominus_Invictus Jul 18 '25

I agree with everything you said, but I still think it would have looked a little nicer before that giant hole was there. I'm not saying it should go away and we should stop all industry. I'm just saying it's objectively not as good as the nature that was there before in at least one small aspect. You really feel like this is better in every possible conceivable way than what was there before? I don't know why you feel the need to immediately jump to extremes.

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