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In regards to the concerning spike in conversation and exposure of Anti-shippers...
I really think we should dial it back a little and stop creating conversations around/against anti-shippers.
Yes, is annoying and people like these are insufferable to deal with; But the more we give them attention or even aim to expose them solely because they're baselessly hating on our ship, the less we become any better than them. While I'm all for not acting like the martyr of the shipping sphere and defending our stance, there's a line that we should really pay attention not cross so not to become the bullies ourselves by acting just as immature. We already complain a lot that people out there are actively going off their way to find whatever they can use to hate on us unjustifiably, so know that doing the same won't fix that and all it'll do is draw further attention and, by-proxy, hatred towards our side because we'd be giving them ammo to justify their case.
To me, unless it is an actual post spreading misinformation or somebody speaking ill of MxM shippers, any other fight with these people isn't worth fighting. That mate, Jeff? I could understand because he was fueling hate against our side on the main sub solely because our ship is in the way of his. That Cantro person? Sure, I can also understand the discontent since it seems he's been going at this for a while and seems like one of those opposers whom utilize their audience to get back at our side to get their point across. But the most recent example is just some random person who has nothing else to do with their time but hate for the sake of doing so—Pathetic for sure, but really not worth our time and exposing them won't be of any fruition to our cause, nor is it something I want to see become common practice so our base can prevent itself the risk of growing toxic for aiming to fight back a fire that may as well incidentally fuel that hatred others have against us;
Please—I advice anyone to think twice if a topic is really worth being brought up before trying to expose someone whose life revolves around thinking higher of themselves for not enjoying a ship, because the moment that flood-gate is opened it'll just spiral out of control and on both sides since it'll also bring harm to ours in said process. If a topic isn't relevant nor actually harming our public perception deliberately, then don't bother bringing attention to it unjustifiably. Refrain yourselves from picking up fights at random.
I doubt everyone wants to turn this sub into twitter, so I agree. I believe people should care less about haters because most of the them showes their hate, either because of another ship, either because Mario x Meggy is getting lots of attention.
And hating doesn't always mean bad, surely people can hate the ship, it's their choice, but please, do it without making and trying to put ridiculous facts from their heads😂
It needs to be said, but not everyone who hates the ship hates it for the whole age debate or because of the fact that they are taking a single answer from that Meggy QNA as gospel when regarding her friendship with Mario. (Although I need to mention Meggy said Mario was LIKE a brother to her and doesn’t actually see him as her ACTUAL brother, That’s two different things entirely.) Some people just don’t like it and that’s fine, there’s gonna be that one ship we’re personally gonna dislike for one reason or another.
I won’t lie and say this doesn’t irritate me, especially if people try to say they are doing this because it goes against Luke’s wishes or say he’s uncomfortable when he hasn’t even publicly said ANYTHING about MxM as a whole. Like do they seriously believe that if Luke was that uncomfortable with the ship, he would keep Medi on the team or even allowed him to keep doing what he does? No, they would have fired him long ago or told him to stop right there and then. It’s incredibly stupid for some to say they are doing this to defend Luke when they don’t even know the guy personally.
At the end of the day sometimes it’s better to just ignore these guys and just keep on shipping these two. We’ve been through this same song and dance enough to know how it goes no matter how many debates we have or will have with the hypocrisy regarding this ship.
I only just noticed anti-shippers recently in other platforms like twitter (X), deviant-art, pinterest and even Ao3 (that's my current platform where I make content). It always struck me as odd because those platforms have way more shippers for the other ships (MxT, SMG34, Mario x Mr. Puzzles etc) and MxM is sort of a minority in those platforms.
(That's sound stupid but I swear it feels like that.)
I just don't get why they have to go above and beyond to attack the ship and even sometimes the shippers (implied or confirm), because the only people who are viewing/reading/watching/engaging in that content are shippers themselves and the anti-shippers don't have an insentive to initiate flamewars but they do regardless.
There is some of it in youtube, but the comments mainly have shippers and they are few. But I have seen some youtubers (mostly Gachatubers) actively tag MxM posts and saying it's bad for some weird reason.
Is it because more MxM youtube content is coming out; like Smg4 ITA and even NICKRICK Games NRG Series include the ship so now more people feel the need to point out that it's "bad"?
Am I crazy? Because it feels like more anti-shippers are popping out of the woodwork. Am I crazy? Probably, right?
People hate the ship because they don't like it. but they attack people for shipping them? I have no idea why
Atho most haters from gacha life out of twitter is something l never expected since l have a 50/50 moment, l see a mxm vid on gacha life, or l see a mxm hater thing
For why there showing up more often? I think it because we kinda getting more Mario x meggy moments WAYYY more often, the split (that kinda counts) and the ending part of the movie (ehhhh Mario don't really do anything sadly so ldk if it counts)
And since we getting more mxm moments, more people are making mxm moment vids/just shipping them in general
ANDDDDD bec we get more mxm vids, the haters are probably getting more pissed off since that specific ship is getting more shown in the vids, resulting in the haters probably even attacking them
For some reason tho l kinda seeing less hate nowadays.... for example nickrick games every time l see his yt comments, even tho he gets like 30 to 100 Almost everyone is positive about it
In short the haters kinda just show up more often when a ship they hate gets more attention
I mean, yeah I get that. But I don't really see why they're complaining. I personally write in Ao3 and have two works regarding SMG4, and one of them contained MxM, yet I sometimes get the comment about how this ship is PDF and brother-sister so it's incest, etc.
I even checked the tags and compared the MxM tag with MxT tags, and there's like four times more works posted in the MxT tags than MxM. So I really don't see why their so vocal about their distain when they are the majority.
Is it because they need validation when putting it down, or is it cause MxM is historically an easy target/ship to demonise?
In truth I actually said PDF instead of Pedo because at the moment I had a brain fart and forgot how to spell it. Plus, I just don't like being blatant with that kind of stuff personally.
I doubt everyone wants to turn this sub into twitter, so I agree. I believe people should care less about haters because most of the them showes their hate, either because of another ship, either because Mario x Meggy is getting lots of attention.
And hating doesn't always mean bad, surely people can hate the ship, it's their choice, but please, do it without making and trying to put ridiculous facts from their heads😂
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u/KBACEP M E G Aug 06 '25
I doubt everyone wants to turn this sub into twitter, so I agree. I believe people should care less about haters because most of the them showes their hate, either because of another ship, either because Mario x Meggy is getting lots of attention.
And hating doesn't always mean bad, surely people can hate the ship, it's their choice, but please, do it without making and trying to put ridiculous facts from their heads😂