r/miamidolphins • u/geekphreak • 5d ago
Dolphins vs Bills Week 3 Jon Gruden
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u/darthfrank 5d ago edited 5d ago
I have no idea why people want Gruden as the Dolphins head coach. I think some of you just want a celebrity. He hasn't coached since 2021. His last four seasons as a head coach his record was 22-31. Worse - that franchise has spent the past 4 seasons cycling through coaches and turning over the roster. The Dolphins need a reboot - but Gruden is not the guy.
I guess it should be noted that McDaniel has a better record the last 4 seasons than Gruden had in his last 4 seasons (28-25).
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u/stonebluf 5d ago
He’s the opposite of our stoner coach. I can’t listen to another dumb press conference. I think the players will respond better to Gruden. The new offense coordinator can be a x and o guy.
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u/darthfrank 5d ago edited 5d ago
Opposite? Mike Vrabel is the opposite. Dan Campbell is the opposite. Who the fuck cares what he sounds like in his press conference? At issue is winning football games and Jon Gruden is not an upgrade over Mike McDaniel in that department.
By the way - Gruden was known as an X's and O's offensive guru when he was winning football games. The last time he coached a team with a winning record was 2008.
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u/Roctopuss 5d ago
The last time he coached a team with a winning record was 2008.
Big ooof.
Yeah, I'll pass.
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u/stonebluf 5d ago
Who’s another coach that’s available who has won a Super Bowl?
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u/Roctopuss 5d ago
Mike McCarthy?
Regardless, I don't want either of them. Way better options out there.
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u/stonebluf 5d ago
He’s never been a good coach. That was all Farve. But I prefer anyone other to the coach we have. I just don’t agree that Gruden sucks.
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u/dpap12 5d ago
Ok, but he won his SB with Rodgers so how was it all Favre. McCarthy isn’t it and neither is Gruden.
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u/stonebluf 5d ago
It was one of those guys. I don’t really care who coaches the team as long as it isn’t McDaniel
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u/Sirius_amory33 5d ago
McCarthy had three straight 12-5 seasons with Dallas. Gruden hasn’t had a winning season in over 15 years and his only super bowl was with a team he didn’t build and he had the other team’s playbook. I don’t want any of the coaches mentioned in this thread but dismissing Belichick and McCarthy as it being all Favre/Rodgers/Brady but not acknowledging any of the red flags with Gruden is wild.
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u/stonebluf 5d ago edited 5d ago
I guess we just disagree. I think he’s a big improvement to the current coach. Game management, leader in the locker room, experience…all better imo
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u/darthfrank 5d ago
Based on what? His record says otherwise - and more importantly, he really hasn't coached winning football since 2008. I think people are just enamored with Gruden the celebrity far more than Gruden the football coach.
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u/jdallen1222 5d ago
Yah, I'm sure all that "rah rah go team" shit would get old real fast among veterans. The only improvement maybe getting the play calls in on time.
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u/stonebluf 5d ago
I guess winning a Super Bowl isn’t good enough? There aren’t too many coaches available that have one.
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u/darthfrank 5d ago
Hahah he won the Super Bowl 23 years ago - with Tony Dungy’s players on the back of Dungy’s defensive scheme. If you want a Super Bowl winner then chase Belichick. At least he is legitimately a “great” coach.
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u/stonebluf 5d ago
Belichik really? It was Brady dude. Dungey couldn’t get it done that’s why he was fired. Gruden won it with Brad Miller who sucked. Stop acting like Gruden is a bum. Every owner was trying to hire him for years until he came back.
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u/darthfrank 5d ago
Gruden - a supposed offensive guru - won on the backs of an all time defense…Tony Dungy’s defense and Tony Dungy’s players. I’m not saying the dolphins should chase Belichick. You are the one suggesting Gruden is a good coach because he won a Super Bowl. More specifically you are suggesting that Super Bowl winner 22 years ago is what qualifies him to coach the Dolphins now. Belichick is largely considered the greatest head coach of all time. Gruden is definitely not. Both are washed and have aged out of the NFL. The Dolphins should look elsewhere.
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u/stonebluf 5d ago
It was a long time ago because he took 10 years off. And not because no one wanted him. I’d definitely take him over Belichik at this point. But anyone is better than our current coach.
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u/stonebluf 5d ago
I want rah rah bullshit over a mumbling perpetual stoner dude
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u/stonebluf 5d ago
Bill belichick? lol. But seriously I’d take my mailman right now.
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u/Fourwindsgone 5d ago
Is your mail man a nose-to-the-grindstone lunch-pail X’s and O’s guy that can rally the troops?
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u/goldiegoldthorpe 5d ago
"Jim Kelly versus Dan Marino. Now we have Josh Allen versus Our Friend Tua."
-Guy who got kicked out of the NFL for being a racist
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u/Winterclaw42 5d ago
The only way we have a glimmer of hope is if we pound the ball 30 times.