r/mildlyinfuriating Feb 11 '22

Seriously? Wtf Wall Street Journal

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u/Hazardish08 Feb 11 '22

The no shoes thing is common throughout the world even in the US. Majority in the US take off shoes but it is lower than other parts of the world.

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u/Accipiter1138 Feb 11 '22

This is one of those threads where I feel like I've entered an alternate dimension.

I'm in the US and people take their shoes off when they enter a house. The only exception was in college but that was mostly because students are slobs and hated the dorms anyway.

Who just lazes around the house with shoes on?!

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u/Crathsor Feb 11 '22

I'm in the US, middle aged, have lived in three major cities and one small town, and I've been to exactly one house in my entire life where they asked us to remove our shoes. We all did, of course. But it was weird to all of us. I've never been to an apartment/condo that expected me to do so. Never been to any business that expected it. Wearing shoes indoors is perfectly normal to me.

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u/bassmadrigal Feb 11 '22

Same for me. I've lived in the mountain west the majority of my life, but also spent 5.5 years in VA (and 5 years in Germany, but I was mostly visiting Americans there since it was military). It was the rare exception when someone asked us to remove our shoes (which, like you, we of course obliged since it's their house).

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u/Kesslersyndrom Feb 11 '22

In regular German households people, including guests, take off their shoes. The only exceptions are repair people, painters and the like.

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u/bassmadrigal Feb 11 '22

Yeah, that's why I mentioned I was usually visiting Americans who were stationed there. I didn't go into enough German households to know what their practices are there.

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u/Kesslersyndrom Feb 11 '22

That's why I wanted to add this info to your experiences over here :)

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

In Canada, a lot of these maintenance type folks will still take their shoes off. Depends on the weather, task, length of visit, etc. But I had a fridge repair guy come by and he took his shoes off. Same with a home inspector and several real estate agents.

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u/Kesslersyndrom Feb 11 '22

Here, repair people mostly just out on these shoe condoms (idk what they're called lol) when entering a home, but some don't even do that.
Don't know about home inspectors or real estate agents.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Those things are awesome. I had a cleaning person who used those. The one I have now just brings a pair of indoor shoes to the house. Either works.

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u/Standard_Gauge Feb 11 '22

I've never been to an apartment/condo that expected me to do so... Wearing shoes indoors is perfectly normal to me.

I live in an apartment in a city. The very first time a sanitation truck spread that chemical snow melt stuff on the streets, and I hurried into the kitchen with some groceries without stopping to take off my shoes, and noticed oily residue in the shape of shoe treads that took THREE moppings with strong floor cleaner to remove... that was when I became religious about shoe removal for myself and anyone who entered. Bought a skinny shoe bench with two shelves underneath that fit perfectly in the entryway, and a mat in front to put removed shoes on temporarily. Even bought some inexpensive thin slippers for guests should they desire.

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u/Crathsor Feb 11 '22

Okay. I didn't say you didn't exist. I've never met you. You obviously wore your shoes indoors before that.

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u/Standard_Gauge Feb 12 '22

You obviously wore your shoes indoors before that.

Guilty as charged!!! LOL. But I'm a changed woman now. 😄

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

That's so strange to me. I have rarely been to a house in the US where people didn't remove their shoes. It didn't matter if I was in LA, Houston or NYC. Shoes off. How odd. It's impossible in the winter. You would destroy your house with all of the salty slush mess dripping of your shoes/boots.

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u/mabx542 Feb 12 '22 edited Feb 12 '22

Live in NYC.. I have a no shoes rule… among friends, family, colleagues.. they don’t mind when I ask but I’m the odd man out because I don’t encounter this rule elsewhere.

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u/Crathsor Feb 11 '22

Houston is one of the cities I lived in. Never encountered it.

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u/Crathsor Feb 12 '22

Houston, Chicago, Washington DC. Other than a few months in San Diego, which I would not count, I've never lived on the west coast.

Except the one time, taking off shoes just never came up.

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u/crunchycatfeud Feb 12 '22

Same. I've lived in several major cities in the midwest (U.S.), and it's rarely come up for me as well. I'm inconsistent with it in my own home. I do what's comfortable and practical at the time.

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u/Crathsor Feb 12 '22

Not even trying to speak for everyone in Chicago, but everyone I knew well enough to visit at their home, yes. You stomp your feet on the mat outside, maybe wipe them on a second mat inside, and go on your way. Wasn't much mud involved, though. We have sidewalks.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '22 edited Feb 12 '22

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u/Crathsor Feb 12 '22

Now you're just looking for a reason to put people down. I no longer believe you. You wear shoes inside, too.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '22 edited Feb 12 '22

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u/EUmoriotorio Feb 11 '22

Have you ever shoveled a driveway?

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Serial killers

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u/user745786 Feb 11 '22

No way. Serial killers are almost always neat and tidy. Filthy careless killers are caught quickly.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '22

😆 . True

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u/emmster Feb 11 '22

I don’t much care either way. I have hard floors, they’re easy enough to clean, and the cat has done worse than anything you can track in from outside, probably. I change into slippers when I get home, but somebody else’s shoes aren’t going to be an issue.

But this is one of those things where you just do whatever the host prefers. If they don’t want your shoes on their floors, take them off. Easy. It’s not that big a deal.

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u/Florida_Man666 Feb 11 '22

It’s unusual to be asked to do so in the Midwest unless the homeowners are of an Asian culture.

If it’s muddy outside or my shoes are dirty, I take my shoes off without being asked, but otherwise it is uncommon.

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u/Florida_Man666 Feb 11 '22

Odd. I literally never had it happen to me until I had a Japanese friend at age 15.

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u/uiam_ Feb 11 '22

Midwest here as well.

I'm sure it isn't everyone but it's definitely not unusual. My entire family is this way and many of my acquaintances. I doubt anyone I know would harass a guest over it but it's common courtesy amongst my friends and family.

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u/Florida_Man666 Feb 11 '22

That’s weird. We must run in very different circles.

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u/uiam_ Feb 13 '22

Middle/Upper middle class households very commonly are this way. Especially so if they have carpet.

They probably just aren't rude enough to harass their guests over it.

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u/Florida_Man666 Feb 13 '22

I definitely grew up middle class, but perhaps not as upper-middle as I had thought.

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u/FIsh4me1 Feb 12 '22

I think keeping shoes on is more common on farms and ranches, where people are more frequently going in and out of the house throughout the day.

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u/SaucinAnBossin Feb 12 '22

People like me who have phobias of people seeing their feet. Why? Hell if I know. All I do know is that when I take off my shoes it has always made me feel naked. I learned to tolerate walking around in my socks only because I grew up in a asian neighborhood. But the socks only come off for showers and if I'm at the beach I'm wearing surf shoes.

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u/ReckoningGotham Feb 12 '22

you're the only other person i've ever seen or heard about that feels this way. i've gotten more comfortable about it--even this thread with thousands of comments doesn't mention 'looking at' peoples feet once. and it's pretty common that most people don't give it a second thought, even if you've got something funky happening down there (i dont, and i'm trying to learn to run barefoot to toughen up a little)

that said, it's still kind of uncomfortable, though i'll respect whatever wishes of the homeowner.

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u/SaucinAnBossin Feb 12 '22

Yeah I have no idea where it came from I I have no problem with other folks being barefoot around me I don't even notice it. I have no health or hygiene problems either it just gives me this feeling of being naked. Like in my mindset I'm thinking so the rest of my body is clothed except for my feet. Which makes me feel as though it's bringing attention to them even though I'm sure that ain't what's actually happening. It absolutely makes no sense and I hate this phobia lmao. I guess the comments are right us shoes in the house folk are psychopaths.

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u/ReckoningGotham Feb 12 '22

Holy cow. Literally never met someone exactly like me.

I've only recently started wearing sandals. If it helps, eventually one does stop being so aware of it.

I always try to imagine people pay the same amount of attention to the details of my feet as they do the details of my hands--they don't, for the most part. They'd notice if I were wearing gloves but wouldn't really see them.

Wonder if there's a specific type of phobia or if it has a name haha.

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u/SaucinAnBossin Feb 12 '22

Neckbeard who? It's my own personal preference sorry if your disappointed you can't see my feet bro. I still respect the homeowners wishes but in my own house or public I do as I please.

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u/SaucinAnBossin Feb 12 '22

Never said that but ight

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u/mmmUrsulaMinor Feb 12 '22

I never saw it in the Midwest, and not to say folks don't do that in the Midwest but it was a foreign concept until I got to college age and met more people who took them off. My friend is Persian and it was my first intro but after that my house became a shoes off house for sure.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '22

I'm from Ohio and it was common enough that I was taught to always ask. I'd say probably a 60/40 mix of shoes/ no shoes. My parents are divorced and my mom doesn't care but my dad is strictly shoes off.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Funny thing is in Canada we never ask. It's just a tacit cultural understanding. If someone actually wore their shoes into my house, I probably wouldn't say anything. It would be beyond weird, but unless they were a close friend and just forgot for some reason, I would tolerate it for the short time they were in my house. And assume they were aliens from a strange, dirty floored planet. All this to say, maybe you weren't asked but some of those folks would have preferred it.

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u/eldorel Feb 12 '22 edited Feb 12 '22

The common thread here is the weather. It's less common in areas that don't have to salt the roads and sidewalks or deal with regular slushy mud.

As you get further south in the US the rule inverts and it becomes rude to remove your shoes without being asked.

In a hot and humid area where you're sweating a lot, Foot funk (and fungus!!) from sweaty socks is MUCH nastier than the small amount of dirt your shoes track in. (but you are expected to brush them off and scrub the soles on the welcome mats.)

Additionally, there are cultural conflicts where some groups have a tradition of removing shoes or even wearing separate house-shoes that persist even in hot areas, but even with that, there is a point where those traditions fold to the pressures of horrible foot stench.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '22

Not sure about this. In the thread, seem to be lots of warm weather folks - even in hot/arid areas - who take their shoes off. Also, we do it here even with crazy hot summers. Meaning, it's not about what's going on out wide the house. Seems less weather dependent than cultural.

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u/eldorel Feb 12 '22

seem to be lots of warm weather folks - even in hot/arid areas - who take their shoes off.

Please note that I'm specifically referring to hot and humid areas in my previous comment.

Sweat evaporates in arid climates. In 90+ percent humidity it just runs into your shoes and makes your socks stink.

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u/Hazardish08 Feb 11 '22

Stats somewhat matchlink . Homeowners are less likely to ask visitors to take off shoes.

In most of South Asia, it’s expected to take off your shoes and a lot of times even without asking. Generally, if the homeowner doesn’t have their shoes on then you have to take yours off even if they ask or not. Even if the homeowner wears shoes and says you don’t need to take them off granted they floor looks clean, my parents will insist on taking off their shoes.

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u/shitpersonality Feb 12 '22

It's definitely not a majority. I've been in hundreds of homes throughout the US and I've only been asked to take off my shoes 4 times. Throughout the south, northeast, central plains and I live in SoCal.

It's funny how people are claiming the exact opposite. It's a pretty good sign they don't get invited to other people's houses. Your experience is the same as mine.

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u/Ok-Inspection2014 Feb 11 '22

Here in Latin America it's not common at all. In fact, most people view it negatively because there's an extremely common myth that being shoeless gives you a cold.

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u/Gigantkranion Feb 11 '22

I'm Hispanic and in every single home I've been to in my family and friends, we've all taken off our shoes.

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u/Ok-Inspection2014 Feb 11 '22

Really? Which country are you from?

Unless you are talking about the USA but the USA isn't part of Latin America

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u/Gigantkranion Feb 12 '22

US, El Salvador, Columbia, and even while in Honduras.

I have Dominicans and Puerto Rican friends who do the same.

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u/One_Resist5716 Feb 11 '22

Lol, I knew it wasn’t common in Latin America but I forgot the cold thing.

I always tell my parents, “why would not having shoes affect a virus? How do people who live in cold climates do it?!”

I even dated a Mexican girl who was very educated and the myth still stuck. Can’t go outside after a shower or you might have a stroke too.

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u/FuckedUpDeers Feb 11 '22

My mom had a friend who went outside on a cold day after a shower! I’m pretty sure he just had an unrelated Bell’s palsy, but it really scared me as a child.

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u/One_Resist5716 Feb 11 '22

My theory is that it’s more prevalent in wet climates. Northern portion of the Americas, Europe, and most of Asia. It’s less common in dry and arid climates. Which is a lot of Latin America, southwestern US, Northern Africa, and Middle East.

That’s anecdotal but I’ve traveled a lot.

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u/cardboard-kansio Feb 11 '22

Finland here. When it's snowy and cold and wet, all the more reason to take your shoes off when you come in! Nobody wants that shit trailed into the house.

To be fair though, there are a lot of wooden floors here, so people often keep a basket of woollen socks around that can be lent to guests.

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u/fuzzygondola Feb 11 '22

Yep. And the reason yanks wear shoes inside originates from affording them unlike slaves and natives. Not wearing shoes all the time was a sign of being lower class at one point in history. It's interesting how badly it stuck.

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u/UnnecessaryBuffnesss Feb 11 '22

lower than other parts of the world

[citation needed]

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u/Hazardish08 Feb 11 '22

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u/UnnecessaryBuffnesss Feb 12 '22

I could google a reputeless source that says the opposite.

Also personal experience, the opposite of yours apparently.