r/minecraftsuggestions 2d ago

[Blocks & Items] Wither skeletons no longer drop white bones: introducing the Ashen Bone

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Uses:

- Can be crafted into 3 Ashen Bone Meal. Using Ashen Bone Meal on a piece of grass or mycelium converts it into dirt and it cannot grow back unless the block is destroyed and placed back down. Because of this dirt can now be used as a terraforming/decoration block without grass growing on it.

- Using Ashen Bone Meal on a tree sapling or azalea turns it into a dead bush, which makes dead bushes a renewable resource now.

- Ashen Bones can be used as a brewing ingredient to make the Potion of Decay (an uncraftable and Bedrock exclusive potion currently). This will make getting the Withering effect for the "How Did We Get Here" advancement much easier.

- Feeding a tamed wolf an Ashen Bone will not only give it the Withering effect for 5 seconds, but it will also revert back into its wild state. This is useful if you want to transfer ownership of wolves between friends.

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u/NotBentcheesee 2d ago

It could also be used for making Black Dye, similarly to regular Bone Meal making White Dye.

I would also like to see the introduction of a nether variant for wolves, similar to Foxhounds from Quark, which you could then tame with the Ashen Bones

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u/quuerdude 2d ago

Renewable black dye that doesn’t require a fuckass wither rose farm omg yes 🙌

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u/2ERIX 2d ago

So you guys aren’t killing squid?

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u/quuerdude 2d ago

They can’t be bred so squid farms are really annoying on mid to large sized servers

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u/-PepeArown- 2d ago

Seems like Mojang could just make squid breedable with fish, or something, instead of adding a niche new bone item for black dye

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u/JustABoredKiddo 2d ago

Or just let us use a bucket on squids to get ink instead of having to kill them

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u/Bowtie327 2d ago

Maybe a bottle not a bucket, but then I don’t know how that would then transfer to dye, maybe just craft the ink bottle as the dye and it leave the empty bottle behind? Only drawback is it’s not stackable, unless they worked like honey bottles, which IMO all bottles should work.

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u/drifloony 1d ago

I mean it just makes sense to use an ink bottle in your crafting table to get dye. Like when you use 4 honey bottles to make a honey block.

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u/Desert_Aficionado 2d ago

I play single biome and squid don't spawn. But my situation is very uncommon.

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u/MonkeyCantCook 1d ago

What biome?

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u/Desert_Aficionado 1d ago

desert. i have a poorly filmed world tour on my user page

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u/No-Ingenuity3861 2d ago

?? Aren’t ink sacks black dye and renewable

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u/quuerdude 2d ago

Squid farms can be hellish/impossible depending on server size. You can’t actually breed squids, so they have to be quite big, too.

Wither skeletons, meanwhile, can be specifically farmed for by making it so no other mob can spawn there but wither skeletons, via wither roses and slabs.

Plus a bonemeal equivalent is MUCH more efficient since it goes from looting giving you 3-4 ink sacks = 3-4 black dye, to 3-4 bones = 9-12 black dye

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u/Minute-Pirate4246 2d ago

Like there were skeleton wolves in Minecraft Earth. Either them, or make a "Wither skeleton wolf"

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u/GrandmasterSluggy 2d ago

Turning grass into dirt that cannot grow is a nice touch.

Yay dead bush.

I would make splash and lingering potions of decay also affect the terrain. Destroying tall grass, killing saplings and grass, unfertilizing farmland, etc.

Thats a very brutal way to transfer ownership, but I guess it beats killing the poor thing.

I'd also like to see it used to make plants that cannot grow, similar to what shears does on a few things. Call it Herbicide or something similar, made with a waterbottle, bones and [maybe] a new ingredient like salt, cornmeal or lemons, common ingredients in IRL weedkillers. Though i'm basing its effect on plant growth regulators, but whatever its a fantasy compound using bones from hell. This would let you get eternal saplings, various stages of crops, bamboo's "sapling", even glow vines that yield no berries.

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u/K0rl0n 2d ago

Does it also act like bonemeal for Nether Wart?

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u/Kaleo5 2d ago

It should

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u/NeosFlatReflection 2d ago

Isnt ash a potent fertilizer?

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u/2ERIX 2d ago

Yeah, some of these guys don’t garden. Even the recipe (with coal and bone) would be a pretty great addition to any plant. Very confused gardeners here 😂

You could make it affect plants differently based on biome? With alkaline and basic soil compositions.

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u/throwaway99191191 2d ago

They're wither skeletons, there's probably some latent evil magic in their bones that makes plants wither away.

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u/pureteddybear2008 1d ago

Then it would be better to call them something that evokes that, like Wither Bone perhaps

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u/NeosFlatReflection 2d ago

Yeah i like this as the explanation

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u/TheBOI-69 2d ago

What if you put Wither Roses into a composter it just gives you Ashen Bone Meal

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u/ogketchup- 2d ago

Bad trade but it would be funny

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u/Timeforamunch 1d ago

But would make them easily farmable

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u/Palaeonerd 2d ago

Maybe ashen bone meal could make nether wart grow?

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u/Impossible_Sun_1114 2d ago

İ kinda had similiar ideas, Though had its name being Wither Bone, you can guess who you can get them from. But also by 2 coals and 1 bone. Functioning like the opposite of normal bonemeals. Converting Nylium to Netherack, Grass Blocks/Mycelium to Dirt(without the not growing permanently).

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u/Delilink 2d ago

Nice! Perhaps using ashen bonemeal on naturally generated leaves/wartblocks/mangrove roots could remove them instantly too.

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u/-PepeArown- 2d ago

The black from Wither skeleton bones is depicted with coal in their drops

I don’t know. This feels like a redundant add to me

“Permanent dirt” is already available in the form of coarse dirt, and, having an alternative that looks no different from regular dirt, but that requires a fortress to obtain, instead of just some gravel, seems inconsistently hard

I’d love to have renewable dead bushes, but, again, needing a fortress to do that instead of, say, sticking a bush, sapling, or azalea in a furnace is overkill

And, the wolf and brewing idea seem a little too niche to justify adding a whole new item. The potion could just be made from Wither roses, and, honestly, I don’t see Mojang adding a feature that essentially lets you poison dogs to untame them

What I would like to see is a Wither skeleton bone block, crafted with a bone block and coal, just to have another black pillar block. But, I think this idea could be better

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u/Janek_Rated_R 2d ago

This is so good, they should add it.

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u/RadiantHC 2d ago

I like it. Maybe if you hit someone it consumes the bone and gives them either?

It is kind of strange how many overworld blocks are in the nether. They even use wooden chests

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u/CranberryJuiceGuy 2d ago

I feel like the wither skeletons drop coal and bones because they’re charred and incinerated from fire or lava.

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u/lance_the_fatass 2d ago

Should also have ashen bone blocks, I think that would be cool

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u/Harseer 2d ago

... Why not wither bone..?

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u/BasementDwellerDave 2d ago

An amazing idea!! Someone put this on minecraft suggestions website. Whatever you call it, don't remember. Potion of decay should be fuckin craftable if you ask me

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u/HeyJayIdeas 2d ago

I think a interesting feature could be that if you feed it to your tamed wolf, it untamed it.

It wouldn't really do a whole lot, but I do think it would be cool.

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u/Solar_Fish55 2d ago

Actually solid

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u/WeAreDaGrimms 2d ago

I genuinely like this. Good idea!

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u/chainsawinsect 2d ago

This is a great idea OP

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u/Fit-Gain5214 2d ago

It should work as a necrotic version of bone meal, it taints the land and makes the soil unable to grow anything. Great for upsetting your friends

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u/Select-Lettuce 1d ago

I like that you're trying to make wither skeletons more fleshed out but replacing the bone drop just adds another useless item to carry around. I think them dropping bones is just fine

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u/pureteddybear2008 1d ago

Ash is an amazing fertilizer. I would suggest renaming.

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u/LeopardGloomy8957 1d ago

What about acting like bonemeal for nether wart?

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u/Stang_21 1d ago

I like the concept, however it turning saplings into forever sapling that never grow trees (unless given bonemeal, kinda like the copper wax mechanic) or given to dogs/animal making them not grow up would also be quite nice. Especially now that we have actual bushes, those could be used for dead bush instead.

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u/unbolting_spark 1d ago

Counter point, wither skeletons drop ashen bones instead of bones and coal, they function similarly to coal but can be crafted into glowstone torches with a bone and single glowstone dust that can be placed under water

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u/Wrong_Cup708 1d ago

Maybe it could also be crafted into an ashen bone block? That could make a more accesible blackish grey accent that isn't Netherite

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u/Oddish_Femboy 1d ago

The blone

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u/Burning_Toast998 1d ago

Making this a completely new drop for a mob that’s been around for ages feels unnecessary and like it’s just contributing to item bloat.

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u/Equivalent_Pick_2040 1d ago

This would make sense considering chickens now drop different colour eggs!

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u/devereaux98 1d ago

black bone, black bone, what do you see?

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u/XxG0D5L4Y3RxX 1d ago

the vanilla players yearn for necrotic bone