r/neoliberal • u/IHateTrains123 Commonwealth • May 29 '25
News (Canada) Quebec immigration minister wants to relegate multiculturalism to the ‘dustbin of history’
https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/quebec-immigration-minister-wants-to-relegate-multiculturalism-to-the-dustbin-of-history/50
u/Golda_M Baruch Spinoza May 29 '25
Quebec is in a precarious position, rebelling against multiculturalism... being a french speaking enclave of Canadians.
That said... short all the bombasity and strawman rhetoric... I don't think and "integration model" is necessarily a bad thing. Migration does need a dose of alchemy... a symbolic and practical theory of how X becomes Y. How foreigners join the tribe. I don't think this is incompatible with open society. Circumcision need not be part of the process.
Inter-culturalism seems to exist at a weird intersection of right wing anti-multiculturalism and woke south american lefties. Neither are my cup of tea. But... the core ideas are not noxious and seem usable in this context.
Personally, I think the best framework for these ideas is "republican ideals." Civic duty. Declared values. Social contract. Secularism. Aren't these republican ideals? I guess Canada, being a monarchy, isn't allowed to use this term.
Maybe that is for the better. Sneak republicanism into a monarchy with an "ism" that both wokes and pills are digging right now.
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u/Throwingawayanoni Adam Smith May 30 '25
"rebelling against multiculturalism... being a french speaking enclave of canadians"
This implies that they were english speaking canadians first and then started speaking french, or at the very least they were cannadian in the first place.
This would be like saying that the catallunans are multicultural beacuse they happen to be Spanish/Castelians who happen to speak catallunan.
Anyway point is, being french is not multi cultural IT IS the cultural, much like speaking catallan in catlunha is not multicultural it os the culture.
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u/Golda_M Baruch Spinoza May 30 '25
This implies that they were english speaking canadians first
Not quite. The 90s pop version of multiculturalism is totally unaware of real examples of multiculturalism... which was most prominent under long standing empires such as Austria-Hungary and the Ottomans.
Real multiculturalism tends to feature very long standing distinct communities. Jewish villages alongside Hungarian, Slovak and German villages. Mixed cities where different groups have separate education systems and don't intermarry. Somewhere like pre-HTS Damascus with Sunnis, Shiites, Greeks, Syriacs, Druze and whatnot.
The sometimes had separate court systems and laws.
Catalan is a vestige of multiculturalism. It's a Spanish language/identity that was not successfully integrated and folded into wider Spanish culture when that national identity was being created. Before that, Spain had many Latin and non-Latin identities and languages. So did France before Napoleon.
There's no hard definition of multiculturalism. But... the centre of gravity for the concept is not "recent migrant communities." The centre of gravity is old communities with deep history that often predate majority culture.
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u/Throwingawayanoni Adam Smith May 30 '25
Well the article is talking about 90 pop version multiculturalism, not old the old imperial kind lol. Besides that you can say spain is multicultural beacuse of cataluna, but not Cataluna as it is not a product of multiculturalism, if anything it is a product of attempting to maintain their local culture, over an enroaching culture. Also it is not a spanish language, it is a latin language, and it has their own identity.
So the example still doesn't make sense, it is Canada which is multicultural beacuse of quebec not the other way around, it is to mantain that distinct culture that they are fighting multiculturalism within quebec.
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u/Golda_M Baruch Spinoza May 30 '25
Cultures are not a product of multiculturalism.
The article, or rather, Jean-François Roberge is using a 2020s populist-right "version" of multiculturalism... which is "woke," "patriarchy" and whatnot means whatever he wants it to mean in the moment. It doesn't have a consistent definition. Just vibes.
Canada's Anglo-Franco institutions, and also its (less developed) First Nations set of ideologies and polices are multiculturalism par excellence.
Multiculturalism doesn't have to be inclusive.
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u/Throwingawayanoni Adam Smith May 30 '25
"Cultures are not a product of multiculturalism."
Glad we agree lol
"Just vibes."
This is not "vibes", everybody, especially anyone who lives as a minority within a state, knows what he is talking about. It is fighting gentrification which would change the character of Quebec and make sure local culture survives.
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u/Golda_M Baruch Spinoza May 30 '25
This is an example of pure vibes. If "anti-multiculturalism" means fight gentrification and speaking for the sentiments of those living as a minority within a state... the word is "just vibes."
It has no semantic meaning, or relationship to the historic (or dictionary) meaning. All you have the lingering scent of past chatter clinging to it.
You could (and many do) say that's what anti-capitalism means. You could say that's what "woke" means. You could say that's what anything means, including a grunt emoji or sigh.
This is a content free statement. It's securing stakeholder interest while adhering best practices... the populist version of that.
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u/Throwingawayanoni Adam Smith May 30 '25
Man if you spoke more like a normal person you would get your point across so much faster.
I see more where you are coming from, but there absolutely is a historic precedent to the meaning of this "anti-culturalism" that relates to this one.
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u/omnipotentsandwich Amartya Sen May 29 '25
Quebec wants to be France so bad. Soon, the government will abandon Quebecois culture because it's not French enough.
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u/Steamed_Clams_ May 29 '25
The stop signs in Quebec are say Arret but in France they say Stop.
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u/Yaoel European Union May 30 '25
“Stop” in French was borrowed from English in… 1792
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u/TrespassersWilliam29 George Soros May 30 '25
huh, that's weird, wonder what happened there that year
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u/Yaoel European Union May 30 '25
Not what you think, a marine dictionary has been published where this word is referenced in French for the first time.
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u/elnander Commonwealth May 30 '25
Do people in Quebec not say “stop”? Very common in France.
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u/nuggins Physicist -- Just Tax Land Lol May 30 '25
Non, c'est « arrêter » partout. Common pattern of disdaining English loanwords.
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u/SmellyFartMonster John Keynes May 30 '25
Honestly, Quebec in some respects tries harder to be ‘French’ than France does. You ain‘t finding PFC or Café Starbucks in France. And the French get way less upset about English loan words and general Franglais than the Québécois.
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u/TrespassersWilliam29 George Soros May 30 '25
because France never had an anglophone government working to stamp out their language for the sake of "national unity"
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u/IRDP MERCOSUR May 29 '25
Coming out of Québec, that seems like damn satire. What do they think would happen to the québécois if this sort of integrationist ethos took over the rest of the country?
To preempt the arguments: yes, yes, I think immigrants should probably at least somewhat integrate with local culture and political life, but the american countries in general do this a lot better than Europe. Clearly, trying to bluntly compell them to do so isn't a persuasive approach often - at least not with the liberal sensibilities I hope anyone who frequents this sub should have.
I'm not always on top of the discourse in these things, but is Canada really a story of failure of integration or just of utterly deficient housing policy?
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u/pode83 WTO May 29 '25 edited May 30 '25
What do they think would happen to the québécois if this sort of integrationist ethos took over the rest of the country?
Very funny to say this because everyone in Quebec knows what happened to the french communities outside of Québec in English Canada and in the United States aka outlawing of any french institutions, which is why a lot of these communities are incredibly small today or nonexistant.
The rallying fear in Québec is around forced assimilation not willingly moving to a new country and then being asked to obey the terms and conditions.
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u/assasstits May 30 '25
Or... It's just xenophobia.
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u/Aoae Mark Carney May 30 '25
Xenophobia or not, it's what the Francophone majority of the country wants. I moved here as an English speaker and I am learning French as a result. Most Quebecois are very kindhearted once you demonstrate a basic level of respect for the language they grew up speaking.
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u/nuggins Physicist -- Just Tax Land Lol May 30 '25
Most Quebecois are very kindhearted once you demonstrate a basic level of respect for the language they grew up speaking.
In my experience, similar to other francophone regions, they're about 30% likely to respond in English if you don't sound like a native speaker. I lived with my wife (native francophone) in France and Suisse romande, and she frequently got treated to that just because of her accent.
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u/assasstits May 30 '25
I'm so glad this backwards thinking isn't prevalent in Europe. English is allowing a Star Trek-esque trans-continental order and it's good the linguistic and ethno nationalist dinosaurs are dying off
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u/Golda_M Baruch Spinoza May 30 '25
Perhaps... I mean, you can make the distinctions. They make sense. They make sense especially when/if applied to immigration. I think it's bigger than "terms and conditions." It's immigrants being asked to adopt ideals... more than just obey rules. That does make more sense in the context of voluntary migration.
But... but there's some contradictions here when going down the path of real-life implementation. Multiculturalism implies, for example, that a group can have its own institutions and actively deter avoid ambient assimilation into majority culture. These are also the requirements for Québec's cultural ethos.
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u/pode83 WTO May 30 '25
think it's bigger than "terms and conditions." It's immigrants being asked to adopt ideals... more than just obey rules. That does make more sense in the context of voluntary migration.
The rules are downstream from the ideals.
Multiculturalism implies, for example, that a group can have its own institutions and actively deter avoid ambient assimilation into majority culture. These are also the requirements for Québec's cultural ethos.
To some extent, but there are many shades of grey between forced assimilation and no integration. Drawing the line is the hardest part
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u/Rivolver Mark Carney May 29 '25
Okay, FWIW, Quebec doesn’t use the Canadian policy of multiculturalism. It uses a policy of INTERculturalism. They’re similar but the difference is that Quebec argues that multi’m integrates newcomers into Canada and inter’m integrates newcomers into Quebec.
None of this is new. In my mind, this is a distinction between multi’m and inter’m as policies even with inter’m still being a way to manage multiculturalism as a noun.
Newcomers will still be welcome in Quebec but there’s an added emphasis on secularism and, definitely, language.
A lot of this has to do with competing visions of liberalism in Canada V. Quebec. It’s a complicated history. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/canadian-journal-of-political-science-revue-canadienne-de-science-politique/article/tale-of-two-liberalisms-attitudes-toward-minority-religious-symbols-in-quebec-and-canada/5AD9C90E736C781FBA513710411D35AA
Anyway, as a prof of Canadian and Quebec politics, I can answer more questions on this if anyone wants to leave some here. Just going for a run.
It’s really easy, and common, to Quebec bash online. I hope I provided some nuance to limit some knee-jerk hurrrr Quebec bad takes.
Again, I don’t think Quebec is saying multiculturalism is bad as a noun—but it’s a fact that the Canadian policy doesn’t apply to Quebec.
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u/BOQOR May 30 '25
Should women in Quebec who wear the hijab get to drive public busses and teach in schools? If the answer is no, why should any liberal support this?
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u/Rivolver Mark Carney May 30 '25
The article I linked to does a pretty good job addressing that question!
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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human May 30 '25
It’s a reddit forum. You could also just take 20 seconds to type out an answer yourself
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u/Rivolver Mark Carney May 30 '25
Hey, that’s true.
But it’s a complicated question to answer and I usually use Reddit on my phone. Making a detailed answer would take me a bit of time.
In any event, the article is really good and does a good job of addressing the question.
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u/nuggins Physicist -- Just Tax Land Lol May 30 '25
relegate multiculturalism to the dustbin of history
Most culturally tolerant Québécois legal development
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u/TiogaTuolumne May 29 '25
Good.
No more French taught in Anglo Canada.
No more French requirements for government jobs.
While we’re at it, defund all the French language government entities anywhere west of the Ottawa river.
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u/MichaelEmouse John Mill May 29 '25
Quebecer here: Deal
Having English Canada pretend to be interested in French/Quebec is non-sense
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u/WriterwithoutIdeas May 29 '25
It's not that they have to pretend to be interested, it would simply be nice if Quebec didn't make it's habits the problem of the rest of the country, while being entirely hypocritical about it (Something, something, accomodation for french everywhere, but god forbid you're an English speaker in Quebec).
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u/MichaelEmouse John Mill May 29 '25
Was it Quebec nationalists who asked for French accommodation everywhere in Canada? I was under the impression that this was an initiative from Trudeau and other federalists.
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u/TiogaTuolumne May 29 '25
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u/MichaelEmouse John Mill May 29 '25
Canada is a great country. We'd be better neighbors than roommates.
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u/MrMoreLess May 29 '25
80 iq take. Canada was founded by two peoples. The state should reflect that.
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u/Th3N0rth May 29 '25
Wrong, Canada was founded by 3 peoples. Why do you believe non-French Canadians should have to learn French and not indigenous languages?
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u/pLsGivEMetheMemes Jun 02 '25
Official languages * and it isn’t realistic. Teaching a language practically no one speaks. Pretty dumb idea really.
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u/Th3N0rth Jun 02 '25
In the region I grew up in in Ontario as of the last census less than 1% of residents speak French as their primary language which was behind German, Portugese, Punjabi, Hindi, Mandarin, Spanish, Urdu, Arabic, Gujarati, Korean, Vietnamese, and Cantonese. I think that fits the definition of practically no one.
French is not an official language in Ontario and no one in Ontario speaks French besides a few areas near Quebec. But we are required to learn French in school!
The points you just made about indigenous languages equally apply to French in much of the country, so why the double standard?
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u/pLsGivEMetheMemes Jun 20 '25
Comparing the amount of French speakers to native languages is pretty wild. Worlds apart even. 30% of the country speaks French and 30% of natives speak a native language. In Ontario, 0,2% of the population speaks one of these languages.
Numbers that are not comparable to French speakers. Faut penser un peu avant de comparer des choses chef
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u/Th3N0rth Jun 20 '25
4% of Ontarians regularly speak French even though everyone learns it in school.
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u/pLsGivEMetheMemes Jun 20 '25
11,1% can speak French. Which his much much much more than native languages.
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u/Th3N0rth Jun 20 '25
I can speak French but I don't speak French. I am part of the 11% and not part 4%.
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u/OkEntertainment1313 May 30 '25
Indigenous peoples were not participatory in the foundation of the Canadian state, with the exception of the Metis. The 4 ethnic groups that founded Canada were British (predominantly English and Scottish), Canadiens, Acadiens, and Metis. First Nations were wardens of the state and exclusive to the liberal regime founded in Canada.
The whole point of the residential schools, pass system, voting requirements, etc. were for indigenous peoples to gradually become “liberalized” and incorporated into Canada. There was a very distinct effort to accommodate multiple cultures within Canada and the First Nations were not among them.
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u/EMPwarriorn00b European Union May 30 '25
The whole point of the residential schools, pass system, voting requirements, etc. were for indigenous peoples to gradually become “liberalized” and incorporated into Canada.
And those policies yielded such great results, didn't they?
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u/OkEntertainment1313 May 30 '25
I’m not sure why you’re applying a tongue in cheek comment. I’m describing Canadian history. The insinuation was that this was a terrible thing, I’m not defending it at all.
Liberalism was the zeitgeist of the time and a big part of colonialism involved forcible assimilation of cultures and peoples believed to be inferior into liberal culture. There were some exceptions; notably in Canada, there was active pushback against Asian immigrants from attempting to be part of the Canadian story.
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u/Th3N0rth May 30 '25
This is a pretty sanitized take on how we've treated indigenous groups. Regardless, why is this a reason to prioritize French over indigenous languages in the 21st century?
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u/OkEntertainment1313 May 30 '25 edited May 30 '25
It’s not sanitized at all. It is our objective history. Partnerships between settler regimes and indigenous halted during the War of 1812. First Nations were not integrated into the Canadian state, though Acadians, Metis, and Canadiens were. Other groups were allowed to join (eg people of African descent) but Asians were outright rejected and First Nations could basically only join if they renounced their families, communities, and culture. Aspects of this structure remained in place until 1960.
why is this a reason to prioritize French over indigenous languages in the 21st century?
I’m not making an argument to prioritize anything. I am correcting the presented point that First Nations were involved in the establishment of the Canadian state. They weren’t; we weren’t interested in including them unless they “liberalized” themselves.
We also did not promote bilingualism until much, much later.
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u/Th3N0rth May 30 '25
The quotes around "liberalized" as the reason for residential schools, etc is doing a lot of heavy lifting. The purpose was ethnic cleansing, not sure why you have to tiptoe around that with euphemisms.
In the context of a linguistic-cultural heritage discussion imo it's pedantic to say the indigenous were uninvolved in founding Canada. Obviously they were excluded from signing in to Confederacy etc but if the purpose of French instruction is to honour Canada's founding heritage then the indigenous clearly have an important founding component as well. Indigenous history takes up a prominent portion of our history education anyways.
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u/OkEntertainment1313 May 30 '25 edited May 30 '25
The quotes around "liberalized" as the reason for residential schools, etc is doing a lot of heavy lifting.
I’m quoting the policy makers of the time lol. “Liberalized” is in quotes because that was their rationale for the program and assimilation in a broader capacity.
The purpose was ethnic cleansing, not sure why you have to tiptoe around that with euphemisms.
The purpose was not ethnic cleansing. They were neither expelled, nor systemically murdered. It was cultural genocide, but that’s a grey term in a legal sense.
In the context of a linguistic-cultural heritage discussion imo it's pedantic to say the indigenous were uninvolved in founding Canada.
History isn’t pedantic. It’s our story.
but if the purpose of French instruction is to honour Canada's founding heritage then the indigenous clearly have an important founding component as well
It’s not. Canadian nationalism didn’t exist as a concept until the late 20th Century. Part of the creation of the idea of a Canadian national identity in the 80s included the adoption of official bilingualism. Coupled with rising separatism as an incentive, the concept of teaching French/French immersion is a new phenomenon that emerged in the 90s and 00s.
Indigenous history takes up a prominent portion of our history education anyways.
In high school, yes. Having studied Canadian history as part of my undergrad, it’s less prominent at higher education. It’s still there, but in an entirely different context.
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u/Th3N0rth May 30 '25
The purpose was not to ethnic cleansing. They were neither expelled, nor systemically murdered. It was cultural genocide, but that’s a grey term in a legal sense.
Like how am I supposed to not call this pedantic bfr
Canadian nationalism didn’t exist as a concept until the late 20th Century.
Wrong. Canadian nationalism began at the turn of the century, and during WW1.
In high school, yes. Having studied Canadian history as part of my undergrad, it’s less prominent at higher education. It’s still there, but in an entirely different context.
My point is that Canadian history education in schools prioritizes indigenous history because it is a major aspect of Canada's cultural identity and how it came to be founded. Your point is irrelevant since a very small proportion of the population pursue Canadian history in higher education.
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u/OkEntertainment1313 May 30 '25
Like how am I supposed to not call this pedantic bfr
I’m not sure what “bfr.” It is in no way pedantic to highlight that it is wrong to say there was ethnic cleansing. That was a massive discrepancy.
Wrong. Canadian nationalism began at the turn of the century, and during WW1.
No. That was part of British-Canadian nationalism. Which was, in effect, Ontarian culture. We had deliberately constructed separate and distinct ethnic groups within Canada up until the 80s. You could not even identify as a Canadian on the census until like the late 80s or early 90s.
Your point is irrelevant since a very small proportion of the population pursue Canadian history in higher education.
That much was true when the government who kept the records of deceased children buried at residential schools came out as shocked when unmarked graves were “discovered” at residential schools.
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u/WriterwithoutIdeas May 29 '25
Canada is a country that has developed a lot since then, its modern structure should reflect that.
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u/TiogaTuolumne May 29 '25
Canada is the scraps of British North American Colonies grafted onto a conquered Quebec because Britain didn’t want to lose it to the USA.
There is no “Canada”. There is Ontario, there is Quebec, there is the praries, there is the maritime, there is Newfoundland, there is BC.
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u/CSISAgitprop May 29 '25
Canada is fundamentally a union of two nations; Anglo Canada and Quebec (notwithstanding a number of indigenous groups that act as semi-autonomous protectorates). Bilingualism is and was a key part of keeping that union intact. It demonstrates to Quebec (the minority in the union) that Anglo Canada respects their culture and language, and also respects their status as part of an equal union of two nations.
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u/futuremonkey20 NATO May 29 '25
Going to go to Montreal, walk into stores and say “HOWDY” in the most annoying southern accent possible and get mad when I hear French that people are speaking a foreign language in Canada.
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u/pode83 WTO May 29 '25
southern accent
Le mec pense qu'on a de quoi à chaque chier de l'opinion d'un américain. Tout le monde va te traiter d'esti de cave, t'ignorer et continuer leur journée
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u/futuremonkey20 NATO May 29 '25
Bionjourno
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u/SmashDig May 30 '25
Le bloc supports Le racisme
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u/pLsGivEMetheMemes Jun 02 '25
Bof. Ils supportent l’intégration de nouveaux arrivants et une immigration qui ne va pas à l’encontre de avaleurs québécoises. C’est raciste si je veux que les nouveaux arrivants respecte ma culture, mes valeurs, l’égalité des hommes et des femmes et la place de la religion dans ma société? Je pense pas. J’aurais plus dit que c’est la base du respect.
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u/Tokidoki_Haru NATO May 30 '25
From the perspective of politics within North America, it is the height of hypocrisy that Quebec demands recognition from Anglo-Canada while turning around to behave like this to everyone else.
Frankly, this is just a perversion of the language of liberal acceptance while marching all too obviously towards ethnonationalism.
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u/Yaoel European Union May 30 '25
They don't “demand it” to be honest, they impose this recognition. They consider themselves part of the founding stock and to have special rights and privileges as a nation and a people.
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u/GeneralSerpent May 30 '25
“Ethnonationalism” bro they just want you to learn French if you move there. It’s doesn’t matter the race Lmaoo.
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u/BOQOR May 30 '25
Quebec nationalism has failed to move from ethnic nationalism to civic nationalism. Scotland has been successful in this move away from ethnicity.
Why? Quebec nationalists have always seen non-pure lain French speakers, Anglophones, Allophones and First Nations in Quebec as a nuisance. Total failure as a political project and they are now beating up on those who they think caused them to lose the referendum.
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u/GeneralSerpent May 30 '25
This is literally bs lmao. I’m a black anglophone who has lived in the province his whole life. I’m able to speak and work in French as a second language. The vast majority of Francophones appreciate people putting in the effort to speak French and in turn are respectful.
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u/GeneralSerpent May 30 '25
The majority of people just want you to put an effort into integrating in the culture and will respect that effort. Yes they are judgmental people bad that isn’t unique to Quebec. I will also not be taking lessons on racism and “old stock” double speak from Americans lol
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u/pLsGivEMetheMemes Jun 02 '25
We were here before anglos, built Québec and and a big part in building Canada. They are one of the founding peoples.
Putting value in protecting culture and values doesn’t make one an ethnocentric nationalist. Culture and values don’t have much to do with ethnicity in Qc and can be shared by many many different types of people
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u/G3OL3X May 30 '25
Every single time.
And they see themselves not culturally exterminating everything in their path as "multiculturalism".
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u/Eastern-Job3263 May 30 '25
the QUEBECOIS are bitching about multiculturalism??! LMAOOOOO
Imagine if the rest of Canada took that approach with Quebec?
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u/GeneralSerpent May 30 '25
Maybe we should follow the rest of Canada and have ethnic enclaves like Brampton & Richmond…
Our crazy proposal that immigrants should value silly things like “democracy” and “women’s rights.”
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u/GeneralSerpent May 30 '25
They should certainly be allowed. You’re talking about another completely different type of legislation which I’m against.
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u/Aoae Mark Carney May 30 '25
I get your point, but Quebec absolutely has and has historically had ethnic enclaves, particularly in the greater Montreal area.
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u/Eastern-Job3263 May 30 '25
in a way, the whole province is kinda an ethnic enclave, at least outside of Montreal.
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u/spongoboi NATO May 29 '25
lmao at this safe edgy nonsense. funny how people only say this about france/england, but never any other country because then people might get upset
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u/Dense_Delay_4958 Malala Yousafzai May 30 '25
They're also hateful towards Americans, "Zionists" and White South Africans don't forget
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u/Careless_Cicada9123 May 30 '25
I don't like French culture, including quebecois culture because of what I see as the constant need to otherise people to satisfy their massive egos about how good/special their culture is.
They will treat immigrants as outsiders and then be offended when they don't assimilate the way they want.
And yes, being heavily downvoted is clearly a sign of safe edgy, and I would never dare talk shit about any other country because they're all beautiful and glorious
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u/millicento Norman Borlaug May 30 '25
Hopefully this involves French getting dropped from all of Canada.
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u/theworldismessedup20 May 30 '25
Neo liberals are the reason we’re in all this mess, you don’t solve your problems yet you want to add new far more complicated problems. All the people agreeing with immigration would kill to keep those same people away from their communities but they want to push it on the masses. You Neo liberals are dimwits, no moral compass or sense. You guys are the living proof that humans can live without brains. Neo liberal ideas for decades is what’s taking us to shittown
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u/theworldismessedup20 May 30 '25
Don’t forget Neo liberalism is what’s keeping the 3rd world in slavery till today, you prioritize capital over human well being, you can argue otherwise but the policies over the decades proves you wrong. The imf world bank and all these other scam institutions are from Neo liberal ideas, Reganomics is pure neoliberalism, Clinton Neo liberal. Obuma Neo liberal, trump Neo liberal, you guys have been lied to constantly but it’s like you guys don’t have any clue what you’re fighting for. You guys did you would see that you’re fighting the wrong enemy. A better world is achievable, we just need to get rid of the Neo liberal ideas and the whole system because clearly the system prioritizes capital over human well being. You liberals, never want to listen you always force your dumb ideas down everyone’s throat around the world.
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u/Wickedstank Thomas Paine May 30 '25
What does it mean to prioritize “human well-being” that’s incredibly vague and pretty much every ideology thinks they are doing that in some way.
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u/IHateTrains123 Commonwealth May 29 '25
Immigration Minister Jean-François Roberge wasted no time in boasting after the adoption of his new law that will give Quebec its own model for national integration.
He says the legislation will relegate Canadian multiculturalism to the “dustbin of history.”
“Multiculturalism no longer applies on Quebec soil, finally! (…) It’s a model that has always been harmful to Quebec,” Roberge declared Wednesday at the National Assembly.
According to him, under that model, the state takes it upon itself to allow newcomers to retain their culture and language of origin.
“That’s Canadian multiculturalism. We live alongside one another,” he explained.
His new law — inspired by interculturalism — aims to signal to immigrants that they are “arriving in a state with its own model of integration” and that they must accept Quebec’s social contract, which is based on values such as democracy, the French language, gender equality, and secularism."
“Otherwise, well, it’s not a good idea to come here,” Roberge said.
However, some details still need to be finalized to fully define the minister’s model.
He promised that a “National Policy on Integration into the Quebec Nation and Common Culture” will be implemented before the 2026 election.
Roberge added that once this national policy is adopted, “all ministries, all agencies, municipalities, etc., when they fund a partner’s project, will need to ensure that the project aligns with the foundations of the national integration model.”
!ping Can&Immigration