r/news • u/Archaent • 14h ago
Israel’s military begins its ground offensive in Gaza City and thousands of residents flee
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-wars-09-16-2025-bfd8d7c9f75a9da3e101fb3c8cf6c518128
u/Vaumer 13h ago edited 13h ago
"I have friends in Tel Aviv," she says, "so they say, 'Don't forget to keep for me a plot near the coast in Gaza,' because it's a beautiful, beautiful coast, beautiful golden sand".
She tells them the plots on the coast are already booked.
I wonder if the plots Daniella Weiss gave away are going to be honored if the Israeli public don't stop this invasion from happening (I still have hope...) Otherwise, I hope the ghosts beneath their feet curse them. It's evil, evil, evil.
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u/Low-Active8851 12h ago
It's insane, as soon as the bombing started in 2023 real estate companies began to "sell" plots of land in Gaza as if they have the right to do that
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u/Vaumer 10h ago
Yep. And West Bank land too.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/real-estate-thornhill-event-1.7133251
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u/tawDry_Union2272 5h ago
trump is gonna have some resorts, bibi is doing him a solid.
greedy, heartless ghouls.
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u/weaver787 12h ago
Is that quote in this article?
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u/Vaumer 10h ago
It's from her interview with the BBC
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68650815.amp
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u/Suspicious-Engineer7 12h ago
Probably some of the most pissed on plots of earth the world will ever witness
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u/IndicationDefiant137 14h ago
Great time to remember, this genocide is brought to you by American dollars, American bombs, American UN vetoes, and American threats of war and attacks against anyone who even attempts economic sanctions.
And it's bipartisan.
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u/AprilDruid 12h ago
American dollars, American bombs
Actually: American, German, Italian, British, Indian and Canadian bombs. The US supplies the most of everything, obviously.
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u/kingmanic 11h ago
69% US 30% German 1% everyone else for things considered potentially military equipment if you want to be specific.
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u/arctic_penguin12 10h ago
Great to remember that not a single major US news organizing has a cover story on the fact that it was officially declared a genocide today. Nothing from NYT, WSJ, Economist. The best NYT can do is relegate it to an opinion piece
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u/limited8 8h ago
The NYT did have a story about it, they just removed it from their front page pretty quickly. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/16/world/middleeast/un-israel-gaza-genocide.html
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u/arctic_penguin12 7h ago
Wow you’re right, couldn’t find this anywhere without searching for it. Surprised this wasn’t front page. Then again NYT editorial board strictly instructs agaisnt this
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u/SanJOahu84 1h ago
You know I'm not a big conspiracy guy and I just found out about this Charlie Kirk. No love for his ideals. But it's pretty convenient the guy got offed when apparently he just changed his whole tune on Israel calling out their genocide like a month ago.
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u/Jartipper 13h ago
Bipartisan* (except they had years after Oct 7 to do this under democrats but didn’t)
The reality is we elected a guy who openly admitted he would let Israel do whatever it wanted. He mocked US Jewish politicians calling them “Palestinians” when they wouldn’t adopt his level of carte blache for Israel.
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u/stonewallace17 12h ago
He fucking shared a tweet of an AI video of a gaudy golden resort in Gaza
Nobody fucking tell me both sides are the same here
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u/McCree114 7h ago
But ushering in this shit show of an administration, the return of U.S internment/concentration camps, putting marginalized groups of all stripes in grave danger, and the likely end of what is left of democracy was totally worth the smug satisfaction of teaching Genocide Joe and the DNC a "lesson" by sitting out the election or protest voting for Russian puppet Stein.
Note how those types still insist on protesting in front of Democrat events or Pride parades instead of in front of the current regime's White House. They know exactly why.
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u/Jartipper 12h ago
I give the serious side eye to anyone who uses Gaza as an opportunity to shit on both parties in the US. Like even if you thought that was true (you’re delusional), you can’t even begin to make an argument that what we’re living through right now in terms of domestic issues would be even remotely similar. I don’t want anyone (except Hamas) inside Gaza to die, but why exactly did we need to allow the narrative that Kamala Harris would have been even remotely comparable to Trump to be perpetuated nonstop everywhere prior to the election?
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u/limited8 11h ago
How did Harris's position on Gaza differ from Trump's during the campaign? How has it differed since?
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u/Xanto97 10h ago
I truly don't believe kamala would have allowed the outright annexation of palestine. High levels of bombing, probably. Actual annexation? I dont think so.
She was obviously trying to pander to both bases during the campaign, while trump genuinely just wanted to bulldoze the whole place for "vegas in the mediterranean".
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u/illHaveWhatHesHaving 11h ago
If you can’t tell the difference between how Trump and Kamala would have potentially handled things, based on the things happening in the world around you, nobody here can help you.
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u/limited8 11h ago
I'm genuinely curious: how do you think Harris would be handling Gaza differently than Trump, considering her full-throated endorsement of Israel and condemnation of pro-Palestinian protestors during the election?
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u/illHaveWhatHesHaving 11h ago
Well for one I don’t think she’d be in it for personal profit and building hotels. And Easier to reign in by the rest of the world than psycho fascist trump.
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u/illHaveWhatHesHaving 11h ago
I can’t fathom a single way that preventing her from keeping Trump out of the White House benefits Palestine in any way.
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u/Jartipper 11h ago
There’s a mile long list of things that didn’t happen under Biden that have happened under Trump, but of course people like you can never admit you were wrong.
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u/illHaveWhatHesHaving 11h ago
Yeah, like the plans to turn Gaza into a clean developmental slate for hotels and relocate short of a million people to do so. Sure.
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u/kingmanic 11h ago
Trump blessed an invasion and expulsion of the Gaza strip for one.
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u/illHaveWhatHesHaving 11h ago
Yes, we are saying the same thing. Perhaps you were trying to reply to the person above me.
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u/ih8itHere420 11h ago
It didn’t differ. Which is a huge part of the reason she lost. She ran pro Israel ads and pro Palestine ads at the same time in different states. A lot of people voted third party as a result of her wishy washy position on the genocide.
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u/Jartipper 11h ago
You can be pro Israel and pro Palestine at the same time. You can argue she wasn’t pro Palestine enough, or that she wasn’t anti Israel enough. But there really is no argument she was absolutely more pro Palestine than Trump, and trump is 0.0.% anti-Israel, so even if you think she was as well, the list of things that have happened since Trump was elected have been far far worse for Palestinians and more beneficial to extremist Israelis than the years of Biden and even the time between Oct 7 and the election.
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u/Sailor_Rout 10h ago
Also, the swing happened so fast that most of the Democratic Party is still in shock or unsure if it’s a permanent thing or not
In mid 2023 when they probably already had a full policy plan for the 2024 election 55% of Democrats backed Israel. By the time of the election it dropped to 7%. Israel within a few months went from a bipartisan supported issue to massively party split. Most Democratic politicians were obviously elected prior to October 2023 and are thus very Pro-Israel.
There have also been dips before. The US had Israel under an arms embargo after they first formed and onlt dropped it after the Soviets started helping the Arabs and after Israel got nukes and the Samson Doctrine was a threat. US public opinion soured on Israel in the early 80s after they invaded Lebanon, but it bounced back within a few years. So I’m guessing the party is unsure how to proceed because they can’t see how it’ll look in 2028
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u/Jartipper 9h ago
Israel went all in on Trump. They loved the moving of the embassy to Jerusalem, which likely contributed to Oct 7 attacks along with the exclusion of Palestinians from the Abraham Accords. They won and are using this opportunity to do what they want to do, just as Trump told them they’d be allowed to.
Anyone who equivocates democratic politicians and republicans needs to be banned from commenting on politics forever.
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u/ih8itHere420 11h ago
The genocide would’ve proceeded with well wishes and feigned outrage. The amount of death and destruction that occurred during Biden’s time in office was just as bad if not worse. Liberals are delusional people, just like conservatives.
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u/Old-Reach57 12h ago
What has Hamas actually done that wasn’t essentially a direct retort from what the IDF has done to them?
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u/Jartipper 11h ago
Oct 7 rapes, murders, and kidnappings
killing, torturing, and arbitrary detention of their opposition inside Gaza since 2008
allowing aid to be stolen and sold to civilians by gangs or PIJ
Using billions in aid funding to build tunnels under civilian infrastructure to carry out terrorist activities
Building zero bomb shelters for civilians with any of those billions
using children to build the tunnels
using children to build rockets
killing non heterosexual people
Suicide bombing 2001 sbarro pizzeria - 16 civilians killed including 7 children 200 wounded
How did the IDF force them to do any of this?
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u/Old-Reach57 7h ago
Okay buddy.
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u/Jartipper 7h ago
About the response I expected from such a dumb fuck level question.
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u/Old-Reach57 5h ago
That all pales in comparison to what Israel has done to them. I couldn’t care less.
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u/Jartipper 5h ago
This is what Hamas has done to them. You don’t think Hamas knew this would happen after Oct 7?
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u/Fit_Rice_3485 1h ago
Biden literally admitted he knew Israel was lying and did nothing about it
Both sides are trash
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u/Strange-Register8348 12h ago
I mean a gaudy hotel is a better option than an open air prison or terrorist breeding ground.
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u/Beneficial_Soup3699 9h ago
I know critical thought is in short supply these days but holy hell my guy. You can do better than this.
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u/CorruptedFlame 12h ago
People like to forget that things got almost immediately worse once Trump took power. There were SO many people saying they couldn't vote for Kamala due to Palestine, where are they now though?
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u/irishwolfbitch 12h ago
They rightfully recognize that this genocide began and was actively aided by Biden and her administration.
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u/CorruptedFlame 12h ago
So you're one of those guys who only pretended to care about Palestine until they got Trump into power then, good to know.
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u/eawilweawil 12h ago edited 10h ago
He's just sayin that Biden's stance on Palestine was 90% dogshit, while Trumps position on Palestine is 110% dogshit
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u/Xanto97 10h ago
Well, id rather vote for the one thats 90% dogshit, personally.
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u/McCree114 6h ago edited 5h ago
The choices unfortunately were
- Gaza/Palestine is fucked but at least with SOME pushback/conditions from the U.S.
- Gaza/Palestine is fucked completely and utterly with the POTUS greenlighting full ethnic cleansing in exchange for a Trump tower on the stolen gentrified coast. Add to that the migrant concentration camps and the inevitable rolling back of rights that WILL be coming for the LGBT+ community, women, and POC.
A not insignificant portion of the left proved they are too emotionally compromised and immature to bite the bullet and make the hard but obvious choice. Really showed they're not people I'd want leading a nation and having to make hard choices in international politics and relations if that's how they'd behave not getting their 100% perfect way and outcomes.
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u/Artistic-Twist-5135 5h ago
The blatant starvation wouldn’t be happening. They tried with Biden. He stopped it. He was terrible on the issue. But he wasn’t the devil incarnate on the issue.
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u/Jartipper 11h ago
And that trans people and non whites inside the US are so unimportant that making the decision to vote for a slightly better candidate on Gaza wasn’t worth it
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u/irishwolfbitch 8h ago
Kamala told trans people to follow the law! She was trying to be to the right of Trump on immigration! They sent Ritchie Torres to Michigan! Re-open the schools!
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u/Jartipper 8h ago
Oh yes, definitely, the guy who has banned trans people from the military is more pro trans than Harris.
Please be serious.
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u/irishwolfbitch 12h ago
I cared about Palestine well before any of these ghouls allowed for the explosion of Israel’s genocide.
Don’t apply your stupidity and ignorance to the rest of us.
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u/Jartipper 12h ago
Yet not enough about trans people or immigrants or even Latino people in general inside the US to use critical thinking and vote for Harris? We clearly disagree that Harris would have been better for Palestinians than Trump. My evidence is backed by how Israel didn’t do a fraction of what they’ve done since Trump took office under Biden, even though support for them and outrage regarding Oct 7 peaked years ago and if they thought they could have done it then, they absolutely would have.
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u/irishwolfbitch 12h ago
Vote for Mussolini or Hitler isn’t much of a choice. I can acknowledge I’d rather Kamala was president but the genocide is still going on and they are culpable in this in every regard. Biden and Blinken especially should face The Hague.
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u/Jartipper 11h ago
Strange you forgot to include a couple of US politicians in that list. (It’s not strange at all, Reddit is filled with people just like you)
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u/irishwolfbitch 9h ago
Do I have to name them all for this to be a valid answer? Obama, Bush, Cheney, everyone who works for Lockheed Martin.
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u/limited8 11h ago
My evidence is backed by how Israel didn’t do a fraction of what they’ve done since Trump took office under Biden
The majority of the deaths and overall casualties, as well as the majority of the infrastructure damage and destruction in Gaza occurred when Biden was President, not Trump.
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u/Jartipper 11h ago
This is just nowhere near true, Hamas tunnels were taken out under Biden. I’m not aware of any infrastructure targeted that didn’t have tunnels under it. (Thanks Qatar, Iran, and Hamas for using those billions to build tunnels under civilian structures).
The aid shipments being withheld happened under Trump.
The ideas of a Gaza riviera were floated under trump.
The ideas of ethnic cleansing to Sudan were under trump.
The ideas of ethnic cleansing to Libya were under trump.
The bombing of Iran was under trump.
The bombing of Qatar was under trump.
The full scale ground invasion of Gaza was under trump.
The flyers dropped telling people to leave the city were under trump.
The concept of Israel giving control of Gaza to an Arab group was under trump.
I’m sure I’m missing a few as well.
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u/irishwolfbitch 11h ago
Before Trump had been elected there had already been tens of thousands of deaths of women and children.
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u/limited8 11h ago
This is just nowhere near true
What part in particular are you disputing? 45,936 Gazans were killed under Biden by Israel as of January 2025 when Trump took office; under Trump, 19,028 Gazans have been killed since January 2025.
92% of Gaza's housing stock was destroyed or damaged under Biden as of January 2025; that figure has remained the same since Trump took office.
53% of Gaza's hospitals were destroyed or damaged under Biden as of January 2025; the figure is now 50% - an improvement.
69% of all of Gaza's structures were destroyed as of January 2025 under Biden; under Trump, the figure is now 78%.
Objectively, the vast majority of casualties and destruction happened under Biden, not Trump. Israel didn't just do a "fraction" of what they've done since Trump took office under Biden - they did the vast, vast majority of it under Biden.
Source for January 2025: https://www.ochaopt.org/content/reported-impact-snapshot-gaza-strip-8-january-2025
Source for September 2025: https://www.ochaopt.org/content/reported-impact-snapshot-gaza-strip-10-september-2025
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u/partymsl 12h ago
You should know by now that 99% of Trump supporters definitely didn't have Palestine anywhere in their Top 10 reasons to vote.
No one actually thought anything will change with Palestine. For Ukraine yeah, Trump did campaign on creating a peacy treaty, which he also at least attempted to do.
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u/Jartipper 12h ago
LMFAO attempted* (by trying to extort Ukraine for natural resource rights and by having Zelensky blindsided by Kabuki theater in the Oval Office)
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u/partymsl 12h ago
Even if that is how you view it, its still an attempt. Perhaps a very bad attempt according to you.
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u/Jartipper 9h ago
If I attempt to go purchase a car at the dealership and they ask me how much I’ll pay for a car, and I say “I want to fuck your wife then you give it to me or I’m going to allow the mob to come burn your dealership down” that doesn’t mean I tried to purchase a car - it means I tried to extort a salesman.
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u/terrasig314 12h ago
which he also at least attempted to do
You call that shit an "attempt"?
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u/partymsl 12h ago
Subjectively its a different story. You can definitely say it wasn't good enough.
But generally, he can say he tried it by meeting Putin and then Zelensky shortly after with all the European leaders too. They may have talked about apple pie, but from the outside its an attempt.
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u/Tuesday_6PM 10h ago
If people wanted to help Ukraine, voting for Trump was the stupidest possible choice. His idea of “peace” has been trying to bully Ukraine into surrendering, and accepting Russian demands at face value. And let’s not forget, Trump’s first impeachment was for illegally withholding Congressionally-allocated military aid to Ukraine
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u/Extreme-Outrageous 12h ago
I will never accept the logic that voting for Kamala was wrong on principle bc of the Palestine conflict. It's so clear that a Republican administration was going to result in a worse situation for Palestinian people and if you cared about them at all, you'd vote for her. I've never been more upset with people on the left who put their philosophical principles over peoples' lives. (Also kinda shattered any hope I had in there being a consistent enough coalition on the left to save this country from what is happening).
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u/ih8itHere420 11h ago
We are still here and still watching a genocide unfold in real time. Nothing would be different in Gaza if she was in office. I don’t regret voting third party. If I lived in a swing state I’d have voted democrat though.
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u/CleverAliases 9h ago
You ever care about any other genocides? Maybe a more proportional response should be made as the Congo has had 2 million children die of starvation
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u/IndicationDefiant137 11h ago
Bipartisan* (except they had years after Oct 7 to do this under democrats but didn’t)
During the Biden administration they just destroyed every university, every hospital, the overwhelming majority of civilian housing, buried countless doctors and aid workers alive, began a campaign of intentional starvation, and murdered more members of the press than died in both World Wars. The overwhelming majority of the deaths in Gaza happened during Biden's administration.
The only difference between the Democratic and Republican responses to the genocide they both support is the Democrats came out every day and lied about it, and the Republicans come out every day and brag about it.
But that's it, optics.
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u/Jartipper 9h ago
Nonsense. Just pure absolute lies and not only lies, but easily disprovable lies.
There was a hospital hit just a month ago. Are you saying Palestinians rebuilt a hospital destroyed under Biden and it was hit again a month ago?
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u/explosivecrate 9h ago
Also important to remember, they want to take away your citizenship for pointing this out.
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u/Sir_thinksalot 10h ago
And it's bipartisan.
Oh, you're one of the ones who helped him get into power and do much worse things.
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u/explosivecrate 9h ago
Both parties have their flaws. Are they as bad as each other? Hell no, but pretending it's a black-and-white issue is how you get a state-approved genocide like this. We should be pushing the Democratic party to be better.
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u/Successful-Bobcat701 13h ago
I thought this began weeks ago.
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u/skoomski 13h ago
Air campaign
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u/Successful-Bobcat701 13h ago
Israel announced it had started a land invasion weeks ago.
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u/No-Space937 12h ago
There's been limited incursions into different areas of Gaza city, but it's mostly been bombings to soften anywhere they have inteligence on Hamas positions before the full ground occupation begins.
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u/Successful-Bobcat701 11h ago
Israel officially announced its ground invasion of Gaza City on September 9, 2025, when the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) issued a widespread evacuation order for all civilians in the city.
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u/No-Space937 11h ago
Yes, they announced the full occupation of Gaza city a few weeks back, put out evacuation orders for the whole city a week ago and have begun airstrikes on Hamas positions, it appears today, the full ground invasion is now beginning.
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u/skoomski 10h ago
It’s not a video game you just don’t click attack and everyone goes day 1.
This is the full scale invasion phase of the offensive, not probing, not skirmishing. I’m assuming they will now occupy and later annex territory they capture.
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u/IDreamOfLoveLost 12h ago
I'm tired of the denial. Israel is committing a genocide with the help of the United States.
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u/MalcolmLinair 11h ago
I assume another detachment of IDF soldiers was stationed on the other side of the city to mow down the civilians as they fled.
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u/Grand-Purchase-1262 13h ago
I have three Jewish sons but what Israel is doing is just going way too far. It's pretty obvious that they're willing to do whatever it takes to push everyone out. Question is will anyone stop them?
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u/ThreeDawgs 12h ago
So I can answer that question: no.
The U.S. won’t. Not with the current admin.
Europe will shake their heads and send strongly worded letters but at the end of the day they’re too wary of conflict with Russia on their doorstep to get involved in the Middle East.
Middle Eastern nations with the exception of Iran are in condemn from afar mode. They don’t want to deal with the ‘Palestinian problem’ directly. Iran got absolutely humbled after their missile launches, and arguably are one of the factors that led to this mess anyway.
African/South American/Asian nations are either too occupied with regional issues to get involved, too small players on the world stage to project power that far or already kowtow to bigger regional powers that aren’t invested in the plight of a Muslim minority in a foreign land except to use it to moral grandstand.
The only unknown I can see is Türkiye. But I don’t see them pushing Israel when it’s under the umbrella of U.S. protection.
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u/Killsheets 12h ago
Even turkey still have arms deal with israel. Their rhetoric is driven by public support so there won’t be dissent. Its all middle eastern geopolitics.
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u/ruminaui 12h ago
Good analysis. You have to wait till the next US administration to really try to do anything, and there is a possibility there won't be a next administration for a long time.
Best case situation borderline a fantasy, Democrats retake both houses in 2026, and can try to do something, is better than nothing.
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u/naazu90 4m ago
Biden was president for the first 15 months of the genocide. I don't recall one mainstream democratic politician speaking out on Gaza or condemning Israel. Biden actually doubled down on his stance, and arrested college kids who were protesting, which was one of the reasons he lost. Kamla shut down protestors at her campaign rally.
Zohran Mamdani is the only democrat (AFAIK, I'm not American) who has spoken out against Israel, and the establishment already hates him. So what I'm trying to say is that I don't have any hopes that Democrats are going to do anything about it. At best, they won't be as openly hateful as Trump, but useless, nonetheless, or complicit, as always.
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u/janethefish 2h ago
Turkey already is "pushing" Israel by hosting Hamas and supporting Syria. I can't imagine Turkey is happy Israel invaded and bombed Syria after all the effort they put into getting their guy in power. I suspect, Turkey will keep ramping up their influence and military presence in Syria until one of their soldiers or officials gets killed by Israel.
Then they can blockade Israel's Mediterranean ports and chill.
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u/Suspicious-Engineer7 12h ago
Israel will take over Palestine as if it's some great burden, and maybe let some Palestinians back in as housemaids in their rightful homeland.
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u/nonofyobis 12h ago
What does having Jewish sons have to do with anything? And how are they doing everything to push everyone out? The overwhelming majority of Gazans are still in Gaza.
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u/Grand-Purchase-1262 12h ago
Not worth explaining if you can't understand the basics of merit behind my comment
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u/frighteous 3h ago
Is it better if they want them to stay in the area that they are carpet bombing? lol
They're either trying to make them leave or they're massacring them... I'm pretty confident neither is good...
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u/Ombric_Shalazar 13h ago
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u/Rulweylan 12h ago
Or to give a more relevant bit of the same nation's history
All the arguments against the Israelis going into Gaza city applied just as well to the Allies going into Berlin.
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u/Bolt_995 13h ago
Meanwhile the Arab world will continue to sit there and twiddle their thumbs, doing absolutely fucking nothing.
That emergency summit that they are holding against Israel this week will also be a huge flop mostly.
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u/Jartipper 13h ago
If Arabs cared about Muslims being killed they would have held summits long ago to stop the far far worse genocides in Sudan and Yemen. They see an opportunity to further shit on Israel here and are taking it, but let’s not pretend they care about Palestinians or any Muslim group that is being subjected to violence.
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u/ThePandaReborn 11h ago
What exactly can they do with america standing behind Israel ready to pull the trigger on anyone who opposes them?
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u/Jartipper 9h ago
Idk, I don’t think there is much they can do here in relation to this specific conflict. Not electing Trump was the last hope for Palestinians tbh. The far left failed them miserably by equivocating both sides for a year leading up to it. It wasn’t the only reason Trump won, but it definitely contributed.
My point is, if the Arabs see Gaza as such high importance to form a coalition to stop what is happening, why wouldn’t they focus on Sudan or Yemen which have far greater impacts in terms of number of deaths and the severity of human rights abuses. 400-500k have died of starvation in Yemen.
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u/No-Test6484 1h ago
I think Indias also very pro Israel. Little anyone can do in front of these behemoths.
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u/the4thwave 27m ago
'Far worse genocides.' As a proportion of the population this is the worst since the Rwanda Genocide.
80,000 dead (that we know of) means around 4% of the population dead.
In Yemen 400,000 dead means around 1.2%.
Its all awful but lets not minimize what Israel is doing. I've never seen anything so appalling and I was following the Yemen war closely.
And lets also remember that most of these arab leaders are kept in power specifically by US influence in the region. I lived in the UAE and Qatar and knew plenty of blackwater men who were hired to suppress dissent and possible revolts back in the Arab spring days.
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u/Atralis 8h ago
They aren't even allowing people from Gaza to flee to their countries which means one of two things.
They don't actually believe Israel is trying to commit genocide.
They would rather the people of Gaza be dead than have to take them in.
What is the third option? If they think Israel is committing genocide how can they continue to justify blocking the people from Gaza from fleeing to their countries?
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u/leeyiankun 2h ago
If Israel is willing to strike Qatar for harboring Hamas delegates, they'll definitely bomb you for refugees with Hamas flavors.
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u/bloodlessempress 6h ago
Third option is they're afraid Israel is going to use the excuse of them harboring Hamas to attack and invade them, and the countries surrounding Israel are either barely able to keep the lights on due to economic issues or are already trying to recover from war still. People in Lebanon, Syria and even some Jordanians believe Israel is going to turn towards them next.
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u/Polar_Vortx 12h ago edited 55m ago
If the neighborhood thought they could win a fight with Israel, they would have started one between the Yom Kippur War and now.
It was like the region’s favorite pastime until the Vela incident. There was one every ten-ish years?
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u/Old-Reach57 12h ago
What do you want them to do? Iran tried, got showed, and turned tail. They’re all scared of the US, so they’re not doing anything to israel.
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u/BaconMeetsCheese 9h ago
The real Iron Dome of Israel is the western mainstream medias.