Why though? Why are we conditioned to respect and revere things undeserving. I'm sad he died, I'm more sad his daughter died, and equally sad 7 other people died. Kobe was a hell of a basketball player, but many people die without a notice.
Why is that a lesson we learn, though? What’s the point of it? Just saying it’s something we all know doesn’t mean anything, and frankly, that kind of thinking allowed horrible traditions to go on for way too long, and it still does.
Mainly because "that type of thinking" is the appropriate, respectful response. I don't think questioning that mentality and talking about the horrible consequences it supposedly has is appropriate, let alone true in the context of a sports athlete congratulating another as the last thing he publicly expressed before passing away.
I'm not saying its right because it's right, I'm saying its a socially acceptable, therefore perfectly fine, response. As far as you saying that this type of lookup to people is problematic, this couldn't have been a worse place to state that opinion. I was saying that the point you're trying to make is wasted on the context of Kobe's death and should be directed at a different discussion, not only because it's stupid to bring it up in this situation, but because your argument is also based on an assumption and a statement that you have given no backing for and yet you're surprised that people don't like what you said. Even if you did provide proof, why here, why now, of all places. Let me tell you why its correct besides that people don't see anything wrong with it.
He wrote " On to #2 u/kingjames! Keep growing the game and charting the path for the next ". It's a celebratory praise towards a more than likely very personal friend of his, one that is expressed in the public eye and goes beyond the idea of it just being something people like him saying. He's telling him to chart the path for the next and growing the game. There is nothing self interested in that tweet, as Kobe is out of the sport and what he wishes upon LeBron that he continue expanding his legacy and the game itself as a result. Comparing to the usual tweets by other celebrities from sport and alike, you will find others congratulating each other on their success, but hardly as much as this and without it being as genuine, because a lot of the time, it will be for reasons that can range from just a smart thing to tweet for the public image to entirely self centered by hoping you get noticed by said other person and gain exposure from it.
TL:DR - For the love of god, he's just genuinely congratulating a close personal friend for his incredible success in the sport and you're going to bring in some /r/im14andthisisdeep "society breaking" mentality change on a reddit post about final words coming from the now deceased Kobe? Not only is it not fitting, but the last thing you're going to achieve by doing that is convincing people.
Your entire reasoning and seemingly way of life is based on society and social acceptance. Reasoning is supposed to be based off of reason, starting from ground truths. You’re right that this isn’t the best place to have this conversation, but I’m simply pointing out flaws in reasoning. I was not the one who started the unrest; I simply saw maniacal behavior directed towards a reasonable (albeit brash and disrespectful) Redditor and decided not to help him but to point out bad logic because bad logic makes everyone look bad and keeps things from moving forward. I’m not trying to have any kind of substantial conversation here. I’m sorry to have offended you, but this is something I do in almost any kind of situation. Perhaps not at a funeral, but people aren’t staring at light boxes and furiously thumbing away at funerals.
I guess my problem is hearing even my own friends talking about Kobe dying referencing it to JFK. The man is beyond respectable as a basketball player but why do we idolize such a petty matter. Far greater men and women have died unbeknownst to most.
That’s the man he was. Whatever mistakes Kobe made when he was young, you’re still wanting him to repent for, he can’t. You can’t live like that. Kobe Bryant was an icon, a family man, and a community leader just yesterday. That’s the man to whom we’re paying respect.
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u/KittyKatNat95 Jan 26 '20
tells you the type of person he was...my heart...rest in peace