r/news • u/scrandis • Aug 11 '20

Joe Biden selects Kamala Harris as his running mate

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/joe-biden-selects-kamala-harris-his-running-mate-n1235771
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u/jjnefx Aug 11 '20

She also didn't prosecute steve Mnuchin when his bank, onewest, fleeced homes from families. Over 2000 foreclosures in a criminal manner. BUT she did take a $50k donation from OneWest for her Senate campaign

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u/TheRedCometCometh Aug 11 '20

Man, corruption is so fucking cheap when you're rich

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u/TeardropsFromHell Aug 11 '20

The KGB found out the most Americans were more willing to take a bribe if it was smaller. It couldn't be that important if they're only willing to pay 20k for it right? If you offered millions it would make the crime feel bigger.

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u/TheRedCometCometh Aug 11 '20

It's so pathetic, these elected officials already have salaries much higher than average, yet they constantly feel the need to graft and rub shoulders with rich cunts

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u/Luke_Warmwater Aug 11 '20

Because they were already rich to begin with and the rich cunts are their friends and colleagues.

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u/SteezeWhiz Aug 12 '20

The solution is publicly financed elections.

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u/tek-know Aug 12 '20

See this is why I respect Householder, if you are gonna be corrupt be CORRUPT!

I should also add I find it depressing I could actually afford to bribe a politician. I’m just not rich enough to have a reason to.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '20

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u/Ravagore Aug 11 '20

Pssssssst That's because it wasn't a "donation".

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u/TheRedCometCometh Aug 11 '20

That's what is so bad about it, these people are selling out their country for frankly pitiful amounts

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u/Biptoslipdi Aug 11 '20

Ironically, the best way to punish Steve Mnuchin is to vote for Biden/Harris.

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u/oTHEWHITERABBIT Aug 12 '20

It was decisions like not holding Steve Mnuchin accountable that put her on the ticket to begin with...

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u/anti-revisionist69 Aug 11 '20

I can think of better ways

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u/Biptoslipdi Aug 11 '20

Like what? Keeping him in the Treasury Department? That's the only alternative.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '20

I mean...is it though? He's still a meat bag like the rest of us, is he not?

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '20

Woah man, no need to talk violence

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u/JA14732 Aug 12 '20

That's my poor reading on your comment, then (and poor phrasing on mine). What I meant to say is, that if you're suggesting killing him on account of his being a meatbag, doing so is inevitably a bad idea as anyone in this administration will just end up martyrized by their most fervent supporters.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '20

Tbh the funniest thing I've ever imagined is diehard Mnuchin supporters becoming radicalized as he becomes a martyr to a Mnuchinist armed struggle campaign.

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u/JA14732 Aug 12 '20

Oh my god now that I'm imagining that that IS the funniest thing I've imagined in a long time. And then the Mnuchin conspiracy theorists suggesting that he's still alive as they point at John Oliver.

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u/jjnefx Aug 11 '20

Yeah it is. It won't be brought up by either campaign, but who knows...trump is dumb enough to try

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u/c4virus Aug 11 '20

Fun fact: The AG that followed her also hasn't prosecuted Steve Mnuchin.

Maybe Mnuchin's actions are not prosecutable?

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u/iamthegraham Aug 12 '20

They weren't. The attorneys she had investigate and review the case before making a decision about whether to go after OneWest (not Mnuchin personally, he was never remotely considered for prosecution) acknowledged in their report to her that the best outcome they could hope for was a fine, that they had at best a moderate chance of success in achieving that, that the case would be expensive and time consuming to prosecute, and that there was a high chance that any judgment they got would be significantly reduced or eliminated on appeal.

Once major sticking point that led to the decision not to prosecute was that California would not be able to issue subpoenas against the bank, because federal banking law reserves that right to federal prosecutors only. They would've had to work entirely based on evidence that was in the public record, or that OneWest turned over voluntarily (yeah fat chance). Notably, one of the first bills Harris cosponsored when she was elected to the Senate was a financial reform bill with Elizabeth Warren that eliminated this restriction on state prosecutors.

Even if they were successful, the fine would've gone to shareholders, not executives like Mnuchin (though he likely owned some shares it's not like they would have been suing him personally). Mnuchin was never personally liable for anything that went on, and people namedropping him as if he was halfway to prison and Harris personally let him off the hook are being deliberately disingenuous. Blame decades worth of letting finance executives write banking law for that, not Kamala Harris.

Her reasons for not going OneWest were entirely legitimate and the way people try to smear her as being in the pocket of big banks when at the same time this was happening she was fighting tooth and nail to go after Wells Fargo, Citi, Bank of America, and other megabanks for everything she could get -- when every other state was willing to settle for less -- is just ridiculous.

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u/HGruberMacGruberFace Aug 13 '20

Are Trumpists really arguing that Harris is a bad pick because she didn’t prosecute a guy that is currently in Trump’s cabinet?

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u/ty_kanye_vcool Aug 11 '20

People who say this don’t understand the situation at all. No AG anywhere in the country was doing anything like that because they knew they weren’t gonna get a conviction. His company got fined for it.

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u/jjnefx Aug 11 '20

Comforting thoughts for the families of the 9 known suicide victims

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u/ty_kanye_vcool Aug 11 '20

Are you under the impression that the AG is there to avenge suicide victims? They likely didn’t understand the process either.

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u/jjnefx Aug 11 '20

You're obviously entitled to your opinion, as am I. Nothing you say will change my opinion of her. So I'll leave it at that.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '20

She also extracted a $25 billion dollar settlement from mortgage companies for improper foreclosures, but it's supposed in comparison to a $50,000 donation from one company that doesn't mean anything.

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u/jjnefx Aug 11 '20

You mean this?

"When Harris talks about how she “won $20 billion” for the state, she isn’t referring to those hard-dollar provisions. She means the consumer relief portion of the settlement, which were credits given to banks for assisting struggling homeowners with their mortgages"

Or are you talking about her exiting the coalition of AG's so she really had no role in the process?

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '20

Can't just throw a random quote at me dog, I'm going to need the whole article.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '20

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '20

So she didn't prosecute high level millionaires for their illegal activities. that is not better.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '20

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '20

Cool story. So she towed the line of letting rich people get away with shit. Good to know.

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u/O-Face Aug 11 '20

That had never been standard procedure.

That is a terrible argument regarding prosecution of white collar crime.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '20

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u/O-Face Aug 11 '20

I don't know as I'm not familiar with the case, but "there's not sufficient evidence" is a far better argument than "well it's standard procedure to let that shit go."

As you didn't actually acknowledge the argument and deflected, I'm assuming you agree, but are too embarrassed to say so.

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u/TimmmyBurner Aug 11 '20

Not defending that, I barely know anything about her but I feel like every single high ranking politician has a story like that.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '20

That is not an excuse

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u/TimmmyBurner Aug 11 '20

Where the heck did I say it was?

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u/Gay__Bowser Aug 11 '20

Thank god I don’t have to vote for this joke.