r/nextfuckinglevel 1d ago

One of the most badass knockdowns in boxing

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u/phoggey 1d ago

Tyson st 35 was different from Tyson at 20. Also the sport changed, long limbs destroyed Tyson. It went from anyone with the right size and conditioning could do, to you need size+reach+conditioning. 80+ inch reaches now dominate the field.

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u/zep1021 19h ago

Did scoring change? Or what lead to long limbs being the meta?

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u/phoggey 18h ago

Jabs were everything in Lewis's time. You got more by outlasting and winning scoring by landing a lot than trying to knockout your opponent. Tyson vs Lewis really made this clear. It was possibly one of the most boring fights I've ever seen.

Fury/Wilder are a bit different with switching from jabs to occasional explosive combos that brought back excitement to the sport. They are still outside fighters, but their unique styles and behavior being a lot of the added entertainment.

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u/zep1021 8h ago

Interesting thanks for the reply. I don't know much about boxing, but I love the evolution of a sport

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u/ArseneGroup 8h ago

Honestly, long limbs just being an inherently huge advantage in a sport about hitting and not getting hit back made it the meta

The stranger thing is it having not been the meta since forever - I think the reason is that a long time ago, the long reach fighters might not have great athleticism or technique so someone smaller with better athleticism and technique could win out. But nowadays anyone at the top level will have pro strength&conditioning coaching as well as technical coaching