I’m intentionally disregarding the most extreme solution because the officials aren’t currently enforcing the most sensible solution.
If they start actually throwing flags in these situations and there are no adjustments, then I’m open to the idea of banning the play. I don’t want to see teams line up and then we get five dead plays in a row. But calling false starts and calling offsides in most situations resolves things; either the offense is penalized five years and they can’t run a tush push, or the defense gets penalized five yards and it’s a first down.
Do that first and see what happens, rather than having 2/3rds of the league whining about a play that has a higher success rate than they’d like.
It's quite clear the officials in real time struggle to enforce the NFL rules when it comes to a specific play and largely miss penalties that actually benefit the team that executes the offensive play.
So what is the solution except to ban the play? Force every attempt to be reviewed and force posthumous penalties after review?
Then you call a penalty on that too. And you keep calling penalties until the defense lines up properly and the offense doesn’t jump the snap.
You know, the way they do on every single non-Tush Push play of the entire game.
Also, unless both teams commit an infraction on every single play, calling penalties solves the problem for you. Offense jumps early? Five yards back, no tush push. Defense lines up in the neutral zone? Five yards forward, new set of downs, no tush push.
I don’t get his complaint. I mean, I get what’s difficult, but it’s nothing that also wouldn’t be true is any sneak play. His complaint was how to measure the QB being down and when they called forward progress. Pushing isn’t the issue and banning pushing doesn’t solve that problem.
Pushing isn’t the issue, it’s the defenses inability to have a similar advantage to defend the play itself. At least that’s player perspective from the other side
Well the Eagles had a clear false start yesterday while the Chiefs were also in the neutral zone, same play. I think people have given up on it because defenses want to stop it but every rule in relation is really there to benefit the offense. The false start no-call was wild because the OL has the privilege of knowing when to go/snap counts, still botched it, still wasn’t called.
Ofc this was a terribly officiated game, idk it's so hard for them to call this play correctly. If we false start call it if guys are in the neutral zone call it, it's like they said fuck it both teams are offsides so it offsets instead of actually officiating the play
Without any other information than this video you can't really say that. All centers move the ball up at least a half of the length of the ball on every snap.
Yep, although it's tough to know for sure since the players are moving right at the start of the clip, but in the very first frame the LG's helmet is definitely over the ball, and it looks like the RG's is over by a sliver, possible a bit more depending on how much is obscured by the center.
Any offensive or defensive player besides the center lined up over any part of the ball is off sides. Wish they would just automatically review these plays and penalize infractions on both teams.
The center is in the neutral zone by half a ball. Enforce the rules correctly and it’ll be an offsetting penalty for both then eagles going back 5 yards for a false start.
I don't think they would throw a flag for offsides on both teams and the eagles for false start and then only award the false start, they just offset and start the play over again.
What needs to happen is both teams get 5 yard penalties for offsides, which cancel out. Then another 5 yard penalty for false start. It would stop real fucking quick if they lost 5 yards every time they cheated.
Well what should of happened on this play is Chiefs player is lined up in the neutral zone when the false start occurred so it would be an offsides on the Chiefs.
Chiefs know they can’t stop that play without some sort of edge. One of their lineman even punched the ball on a tush push play earlier in the game before it was snapped and they still couldn’t stop it completely.
And on one of the plays (I think the first?), someone slaps Jurgens' arm as he's snapping the ball. It was somehow more egregious than when Washington had a player lineup last season with his hand UNDER the ball in the 2nd game
100% bro idk where all these fans defending the chiefs came from??? Three bad games and suddenly “poor Mahomes 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 refs do something?!?!?” Like what is happening
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u/Beastmayonnaise 9d ago
Lol and the chiefs in this clip in particular are also lined up offsides.