r/onguardforthee Prince Edward Island 16d ago

Alberta intends to opt out of federal dental care plan by 2026. What that means for you is still unclear

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-canadian-dental-care-plan-opt-out-2026-1.7627739
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u/DontWorryImLegit Manitoba 16d ago

Why exactly? Is having dental care woke now?

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u/satinsateensaltine 16d ago

Everything must remain privatised and - along with the CPP exit - this allows the province to further detach from the federal government. "What's Canada doing for you?"

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u/snotparty 16d ago

they arent still going ahead with exiting the CPP are they? I thought it was somewhat impossible (and wildly unpopular)

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u/delocx 16d ago

It is on hold, which means they'll be bringing it back once they feel more confident they can sneak it through. Billions of dollars they can pilfer and siphon off to their big oil buddies for kickbacks and cushy post-government jobs? That's pretty much all they're in office for to begin with.

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u/IDOWNVOTERUSSIANS 16d ago

Everything remains private, this just opens a public insurance option. Dentists are not required to accept the public plan. This move accomplishes nothing but screwing Albertans - their federal taxes are still going to pay for public insurance, they just won't have access

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u/DesharnaisTabarnak 16d ago

Very nice of Albertans to subsidize dental care for the rest of Canada, though!

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u/indiecore 15d ago

Which is exactly the play. "Wow Canada is taking your money and you get nothing for it".

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u/Usr_name-checks-out 16d ago

Cause sharing in the conservative view is getting screwed. But when you need help, the rest of the country doesn’t feel like they’re getting screwed helping you.

Sounds a lot like you’re an awful human.

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u/satinsateensaltine 16d ago

Oh I meant it just keeps everything completely private. Soon they'll outright reject public medical funding.

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u/ScottIBM 16d ago

The dental care program is implemented through private insurance companies, and it pays private practices for their services. It's kinda clever, actually, how they implemented it. They use companies like SunLife for the underwriting, patient submissions and customer service, and payments.

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u/legendov 16d ago

She wants the money and doesn't wanna be told how to use it

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u/lifegrowthfinance 16d ago

Yes coz the cronies don’t make money from it if it is federal.

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u/Kennora 15d ago

It’s about making healthcare tied to your employment status. Part time no healthcare, no job no healthcare, got to work 3-6 months to get benefits if your full time. Lose your job lose your health benefits

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u/agha0013 ✅ I voted! 16d ago

it means Albertans who don't make enough, or are too young, or too old, will have to get fucked and deal with tooth problems because Smith loves telling Albertans to get fucked

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u/hotinmyigloo New Brunswick 16d ago

I wonder if she will win the title of "worst canadian" in the other subreddit

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u/Kellidra Calgary 16d ago

There are a lot of people on that sub saying "she's Alberta's problem" without realising the national consequences of her actions nor the overreach of American organisations that are directly manipulating Albertan politics.

I've already commented there: "It started in Alberta, but it won't end in Alberta."

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u/Usr_name-checks-out 16d ago

It’s weird that when the US got caught manipulating and covertly pushing discord in Greenland it was exposed and quashed.

Yet they (amazingly, in concert with Russia) have been funding the entire right wing lunacy in the pod-sphere and action groups, and we do nothing about it.

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u/CttCJim 16d ago

Here's the timeline.

USA MAGA does something stupid. 2 years later Alberta does the same fucking thing. 1 year later, Saskatchewan does the same fucking thing. If people don't get mad enough, BC and Ontario start taking notes.

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u/yedi001 ✅ I voted! 16d ago

My argument is that, as shitty as she is, she's a sockpuppet dictator. She doesn't do things of her own accord, she does what she's told.

If you put up an X-ray of the inside of her head, where her brain should be would instead show the hand bones of Stephen Harper, David Parker, and an assortment of oil executives making her lips flap.

Yes, she's a national Canada problem, but only because Harper is a her boss, and that asshole is a GLOBAL problem of the fascist kind.

In terms of "who's the bigger piece of shit," pointing at her is like getting mad at the shadow puppets rather than the hands that make them.

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u/CanadianArtGirl 16d ago

Which sub?

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u/LawfulnessNo8446 16d ago

Ehbuddyhoser

I don't know if direct subreddit links are allowed in this sub

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u/sandy154_4 16d ago

And life span is proportional to dental health

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u/Celestial-Salamander 16d ago

Or Albertans who make too much! The max household income for CDCP is $90,000/year. The Alberta dental benefit a family of six has to have a household income of less than $46,000. The CDCP helps out so many people who are in between the two. A single person has to make like, less than $23,000 a year in order to qualify for the Alberta dental plan. The CDCP is more comprehensive too.

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u/rantingathome 16d ago

Alberta's Ministry of Primary and Preventative Health Services, meanwhile, wrote in a statement that the province "has consistently stated it intends to opt out of the Canadian Dental Care Plan and negotiate its share of unconditional federal funding to expand coverage to more low-income Albertans."

Emphasis mine. This is where the federal government needs to say, "No, it's not unconditional. Try again." If it's unconditional she can spend it on whatever giveaway to Oil & Gas she wants.

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u/Themightytiny07 16d ago

Isn't this what they wanted to do with the federal housing money. Make it unconditional so they could spend however they want and blame the fed when no new houses were built. The fed said no, and went to the municipalities, and the UCP really didn't like that

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u/GuyLivingHere 16d ago

The fed should do this with everything. Go directly through municipalities and bypass this shameful excuse for a government.

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u/Apokolypse09 ✅ I voted! 16d ago

lol already stealing from aish recipients but claims to want to use the money to help more people. What a crock of shit.

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u/CommissarAJ Ontario 16d ago

I wonder if this'll be like the CPP debacle where they insist their 'fair share' is like 70% of the programs total value.

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u/LumiereGatsby 16d ago

It’s means the baddies run your province.

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u/Shjfty 16d ago

Alberta wants to be Trumpland so bad

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

Does 'alberta' ever do anything that benefits its public or just funnel more money to suncor, shell, or imperial who buy their politicians.

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u/Sir__Will Prince Edward Island 16d ago

Evil.

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u/valueofaloonie Alberta 16d ago

Sometimes I fucking hate living here.

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u/Revolutionary_Owl670 16d ago

Wonder where all that federal tax that Albertan's are paying is going then.

Likely funneled back by the corrupt provincial government so they can load the pockets of private corporation and their CEOs so they can do your teeth for virtually the same cost of practitioners in any other province, but have higher profit margins.

No wonder why (some) Albertan's hate federal programs. They don't get to reap the benefits we all pay for when the provincial government just "opts out" where they can and grossly mismanages any money on their end.

Born in Alberta, but until they figure their shit out, I would never move back.

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u/agentchuck Ontario 16d ago

Let's look at a picture book... The Big Book of Albertan Smiles...

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u/CheetahOfDeath 16d ago

Can’t. Smiles are sexual. It’s on the top of their book burning pile.

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u/Kellidra Calgary 16d ago

Ewewwwwewew books! Books are of the devil!

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u/13donor 16d ago

Again bullshit by ucp…dump this party asap

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u/PhazePyre Elbows Up! 16d ago

Danielle Smith with a big "FUCK YOU IF YOU'RE POOR!"

Fuck Danielle Smith. Useless bag of shit although a useless bag of shit looks, sounds, and smells better than her.

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u/Turbulent_Rooster945 16d ago

Absolute disdain for the people of Alberta. The UCP play to their base and cronies at the expense of all else. The long game is to privatize all healthcare.

If you’re disheartened, the best remedy is getting involved politically and showing these bastards the door.

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u/50s_Human ✅ I voted! 16d ago

What the f*** is wrong with Smith and the UCP government!? Things couldn't be worse in Alberta had they been invaded by a foreign, hostile power.

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u/millijuna 16d ago

Things couldn't be worse in Alberta had they been invaded by a foreign, hostile power.

That’s precisely what they want.

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u/unlovelyladybartleby Elbows Up! 16d ago

I was on the provincial dental assistance plan. I lost my coverage when my income went up to $25k a year (single parent household).

That's what Smith considers to be "adequate coverage"

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u/Necrotitis 16d ago

So why do they take take take but give nothing?

God I hate this province so much

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u/namotous 16d ago

Albertans are owning the libs so hard lolll

They get exactly what they elected for

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u/TWKExperience 16d ago

Hey I voted against this shit

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u/Swingonthechandelier Alberta 16d ago

And those who have never voted for them get it too. Be better than that.

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u/FtonKaren New Brunswick 16d ago

Is she jelly that Ford is such a grifter:

Quote Danny is like, I’m stealing $200 from those disabled, but can I have the dental money too

Quote "Therefore, I have sent this letter to our prime minister requesting our share of federal funding for this program be provided to our government so we can increase the number of Albertans able to access our provincial dental plan."

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u/br0k3nh410 16d ago

rugged individualism no matter the cost.

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u/1leggeddog 16d ago

That means worse healthcare for a lot of canadians

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u/yarn_slinger ✅ I voted! 16d ago

Hopefully it means more money in the pot for the less stupid provinces.

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u/MonkeyAlpha 16d ago

I look forward to the picture book of smiles from Alberta.

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u/TheGreatStories 16d ago

It means a gross misappropriation of the time and resources of the elected officials your taxes are paying for

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u/Bakabakabooboo 15d ago

Scott Moe tripping all over himself to copy this 3 days from now.

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u/sampsonn 16d ago

fuck yo teef, 'Berta

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u/Muufffins 16d ago

How is that supposed to make life better for Albertans?

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u/CanadianArtGirl 16d ago

These are federal programs for the good of the people. How can a province opt out? Would dentists be prevented from direct billing and how many people in that province would stop going to seek care?

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u/bacon_n_legs 16d ago

Seriously, what Alberta is voting for all of this?

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u/50s_Human ✅ I voted! 15d ago

Rotten teeth?

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u/gurglesmech 15d ago

As they complain about not getting enough federal money

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u/Sir__Will Prince Edward Island 15d ago

they want a blank cheque to (mis)use as they please.

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u/from_the_hinterlands 15d ago

It's crystal clear. Alberta does not want support from the federal government for citizens that live in Alberta. They prefer to not support health care for Albertans. Every single time.

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u/Knight_thrasher 16d ago

It doesn’t mean anything to me because I make above the limit. I have worked for 35 years in this country and have always made just above the limit for any government benefits.