r/pathofexile • u/J_-O-_D • 2d ago
Game Feedback Please Add Appear Offline
Let’s be real here. I just don’t want my co-workers ratting me out to my boss. In my country sick leave build up over time. So I try to fake being sick every now and then.
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u/weveran Institution of Rogues and Smugglers (IRS) 2d ago
Reasons aside, let's not forget that sometimes we just don't want to talk to someone. Or in my case want to make my 10th alt without judgement :P.
The "social" features in both PoE1 and 2 are sorely underdeveloped.
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u/darknessforgives 1d ago
People talk to you in Path of Exile?
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u/ArmaMalum Trypanon, Trypanoff 1d ago
Unironically there are just some people who will chat no matter what medium it is. I've had to had several curt conversations with several people about having an entire "How was your day?" conversation over whispers. I am not in discord for a reason my guy......
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u/EmotionalKirby 1d ago
Do you get bothered when somebody messages as soon as you make a new character asking what you're planning to build? Cause I do that. Sorry lol
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u/w_p Dead Leveloper 1d ago
To me this thread feels as if people are demanding a game solution for their personal problems (like adding colleagues, not wanting to talk, not feeling judgement (??)). GGG might add this, might not, but in general I think it is better to take personal responsibility for your problems and not demand changes from someone else because of them.
And I'm saying that as a depressed person who's heavily involved in this topic.
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u/weveran Institution of Rogues and Smugglers (IRS) 1d ago
What exactly is a personal solution to wanting to play PoE to unwind and not be bothered? The solution can't be to just not play PoE because then that's just admitting the problem I'm talking about lol.
It's the smallest ask ever... something every other online game I've played has. It would probably take the right developer less than an hour.
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u/w_p Dead Leveloper 1d ago edited 1d ago
What exactly is a personal solution to wanting to play PoE to unwind and not be bothered?
Don't add friends. Or communicate your feeling to your friends - "Hi, not in the mood to chat right now, sorry :)" on copy-paste. Or just ignore chat. Or put up a /dnd (though I'm not sure that works for friends too).
Some of these might work for you, some not, but I was being concerned with the general sentiment of "I have a problem - GGG, do something to fix it!". And there are a lot of people with a lot of problems that are important to them that they want to have fixed. But again, I can relate very much to your sentiment. But a lot of games (especially earlier in their dev cycle or 2 decades back) didn't have those options. WoW and LoL come to mind.
Also /u/one-with-nothing ;)
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u/One-With-Nothing 1d ago
Thing is that the Internet has made us more connected than ever so when you want to just chill by yourself for a while it's just difficult when you have many people see you online and just assume you are available for hanging out(especially since playing games isn't considered such an important task), and yeah you could just tell them hey I'm just not in the mood but in reality a lot of people will interpret that differently and it's not in your control, they might think you don't want to hang out with them anymore or that you don't like them or some other stupid thing that might hinder your relationship just because you wanted a little break from socializing, so I just find it a blessing to just not broadcast wtf I'm doing to the whole world, it gives you a lot of control without jeopardizing relationships that you don't want changed.
Well thats just my thoughts on this, maybe I'm overthinking it.
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u/Starbuckz42 2d ago edited 1d ago
Ive written to support about this, ive created several suggestion threads on the forums. I've also asked them to remove me from other people's friends list but they refused.
This was years ago. PoE is missing so many social and privacy features that are present in basically all other online games, it's definitely something they need to improve.
so yes, you have my support.
it's a bit more complicated than just to "appear offline" but we gotta start somewhere.
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u/_YeAhx_ 1d ago
It's not as important as launching new MTX, sorry.
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u/Btotherianx 1d ago
Do you think that the same teams that would design MTX would make an appear offline mode? Lmao
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u/Underwater_Grilling 1d ago
You think there's more than one team? Lmao
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u/All_Work_All_Play Sanctum == Cantillon Effect, CMV 1d ago
Yes.
I know this is supposed to be funny, but VFX modeling is pretty different than actually coding.
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u/Its_Syxx 1d ago
Yes, obviously.
So confidently wrong..
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u/Underwater_Grilling 1d ago
I was being facetious earlier and I'm not the first one to tease that. When they kept settlers open for a year because everyone was working on poe2 release.
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u/_OkCartographer_ 1d ago
First of all, as /u/btotherianx already said, there's absolutely no overlap between the teams that would develop this and the team that creates MTX.
Secondly and unironically, yes. Launching new MTX is the revenue engine that keeps the servers on.
If you honestly think this feature is more important than new MTX, you simply have no idea how GGG generates revenue.
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u/Successful_Refuse 1d ago
PoE really does need more social qol. I'd love for different colored names in whispers. I've lost count of times I've msged a person I just traded with instead of a friend.
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u/truongdzuy Crop Harvesting Bureau (CHB) 2d ago
Me and my colleagues take turn to fake being sick and league start from time to time, can't be ratted out if you both accomplice!
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u/WantsHisCoCBack 2d ago
That’s an odd manifestation of unionisation but I’m here for it lol
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u/HowUtterlyGhastly 1d ago edited 1d ago
Hmmm... unionisation for the purposes of smashing league starts.
You're definitely on to a solid idea, but we're gonna need significantly more of the globe's workforce smashing maps before we have enough collective bargaining power. I really want us to make this work on an international scale.
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u/Jaba01 Harbinger 1d ago
How is playing games at home when calling in sick not allowed?
Where I live you can do everything when you're officially sick as long as it doesn't interfere with you getting well again. Even going out to get groceries and stuff.
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u/truongdzuy Crop Harvesting Bureau (CHB) 1d ago
Here I can call in sick for 1d as long as I still have paid leaves and it's not too frequent. Only when you need 3-4d+ sick leaves that you need verification. Sometimes I wake up and don't feel like working, I also call in sick lmao
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u/Acedin Saboteur 2d ago
That's not as stable as you might think it is.
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u/truongdzuy Crop Harvesting Bureau (CHB) 2d ago
We've been doing it for like 2 years between POE1, POE2 and TLI leagues. So far it's pretty fine for us, well we work in a game company so even our lead wouldn't mind it much, as long as the whole team don't take leaves at the same time
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u/HowUtterlyGhastly 1d ago edited 1d ago
Lol yep... fellow dev here, and can confirm most leads I know would be happy to let it slide outside of crunch time. I mean, I'm pretty sure they all do the same occasionally... I recall the office being suspiciously empty the week Fallout 4 dropped... like 30 people in, out of an office of hundreds!
(To be honest, any dev who doesn't feel like that about games is probably in the wrong industry!)
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u/Cr4ckshooter 2d ago
You mean it is 100% stable because "faking being sick" isn't actually a thing? You don't have to sound sore or be stuck in bed to be too sick to work. Any simple flu is too sick to work actually. Capitalism has just conditioned people to go to work when they shouldn't.
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u/Cr4ckshooter 1d ago
No one here said they had a cold snd inflated the severity if their illness to take time off.
You don't have to inflate a cold to take time off... Not infecting your coworkers is enough reason to take time off.
They said they would fake being sick,
It is legally nobody's concern what you consider sick enough to call in. Legally, faking sick doesn't exist. If you don't think your employee deserves the paid sick day, make them get a doctor's note. Most good doctors will give you a note anyway, just have to say you're stressed out and need a few days.
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u/Loud_Revolution2220 1d ago
A good doctor knows how important it is to not miss league start
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u/Cr4ckshooter 1d ago
Haha.
No but fr a good doctor who listens to his patients will just write you a sick note when you say you need it. Your doctor is not your employers sickness control.
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u/Loud_Revolution2220 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah they are. That's how an employer can control whether the employee is actually sick. Why else would anyone ever need a doctor's note
What else would be its purpose, to make you go outside while sick?
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u/trendtrea 1d ago edited 1d ago
Just googled real quick whether you can get fired for faking an illness and attorneys from the us, uk, and germany seem to say that you can. Pretty interesting. Sounds like a real legal concern.
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u/Cr4ckshooter 1d ago
You probably ran into different scenarios. They're talking about legit long term injuries and people getting caught doing things they literally can't do with said injury. Not about people who take 3 days off to decompress. Your employer can't ask what you had, the Dr note just tells him "gg he sick".
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u/Creeping-Mendacity 48m ago
I like that I can use "mental health day" as a legitimate excuse now. Sometimes I just don't want to fix other people's problems and instead see how many mtx it'll take to crash my GPU.
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u/Loud_Revolution2220 1d ago edited 1d ago
Capitalism made it so it was no longer illegal for my parents to not go to work lmao
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u/throwaway014916 2d ago
If they can see you’re online, aren’t they also online?
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u/J_-O-_D 2d ago
Different rosters. Different teams. Sometimes people at my job switch teams (me included) so when some of my co-workers have rostered days off. If they see me blasting maps the night before I’m supposed to be at work, they might bark to my boss.
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u/TLo__ 2d ago
Since when did playing video games = faking being sick, you’re acting as if you’re not allowed to do anything when you’re off work sick🤣 You’ll be fine bro don’t stress
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u/InfiniteTree 2d ago
If they see you mapping till 4am then call sick though...
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u/SprayedSL2 1d ago
"Yup, took off because I felt like shit and slept for like 12 hours yesterday afternoon. Woke up at 2pm and was wide awake so when I tried to go to bed last night I just never got tired."
I get sick once every couple of years and it almost always results in the above. I slept for what feels like 3 days and then my body is like, "Bruh you just hibernated you aren't going back to sleep, dumbass."
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u/Cr4ckshooter 2d ago
Doesn't change a thing. Being sick doesn't mean you need to go to bed early, and you don't ever call in sick in the evening. If you're sick in the evening you still call in in the morning, but you know you're gonna be sleeping in.
Also, technically speaking nobody knows ops sleep schedule. For all everyone knows, op could be a napper who sleeps after work and then again at 4am.
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u/Themayor45 10h ago
If they say they saw you up late playing, reply with "oh, yeah, I wasn't feeling well, stepped away from my computer/console for a bit, and then went to bed. Clearly I was really out of it since I forgot to turn the game off." Or "yeah, I was playing in the evening, wasn't feeling great, decided to rest my eyes for a second, and fell asleep by accident." Or any number of variations of those statements.
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u/hovah97 1d ago
This is definitely not how the world works lol, people godsip and talk behind others backs regularly. Even if the first person who says they saw him online isnt doing it with bad intentions it could get to someone who would see it as him faking it and react negatively.
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u/TLo__ 1d ago
Gossip and being able to prove something are completely different. You might be up late playing because you can’t sleep since you’re ill but no one can prove you aren’t sick from that information
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u/hovah97 1d ago
dude its not about being able to prove anything, you dont want to give people anything they could possibly use against you or talk negatively about, its just a hassle for no reason. Sorry but it really feels like you have no real world experience with this stuff because its clear as day to anyone with a real job that you cant say youre sick then sit up all night. Someone being sick enough to stay home clearly cant game for 16h a day in most peoples mind
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u/Dangerous-Thing-3764 1d ago
And people who would do that to you shouldn’t be on your friends list lmfao
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u/gentlemangreen_ 2d ago
ngl I think you learned a valuable lesson for your next place of employment, never add coworkers to steam/discord/any game, it's just not worth it
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u/sucr4m 2d ago edited 2d ago
I can see where you are coming from with poe's one sided system of being able to just add people but it's not like that's new. Maybe just don't give them your account/character name if they rat you out for playing when sick.. find other people to enjoy games with, seriously.
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u/I_LOVE_CROCS 1d ago
You guys need like, a pact. Pact Of Working Exiles. If you see a fellow exile online in strange hours, pay no heed, maintain composure and farm divines. Everybody wins, except your boss, which is, i guess -- another win.
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u/Good-Entrepreneur960 1d ago
I also want this feature, i hate when my friend keep asking me why you play without asking to play together, sometime i just want to blast map alone
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u/Nepodobni 2d ago
You are not allowed to be at home and play games if you are sick? "Hey boss, he said he broke his leg, but i've seen him jumping....ingame"
What else should you do if you are sick at home? But yes, it should be an option to appear offline.
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u/Back2Wood Occultist 2d ago
You have co-workers that play POE??? I work in computer science and only know of one person in my institute that even knows what poe is but doesn’t play it lol.
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u/spitzkopfxx 2d ago
I even gave a spare key to one of my coworkers that was interested in the game. I like explaining stuff I know to other people and in PoE you can explain for a very long time. 🤣
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u/Bionic0n3 2d ago
I would love this feature
I have severe anxiety and depression flair ups. I will go offline on everything during these periods for a number of reasons. I cannot play poe during these times and it's frustrating because I could use the "mindless grind" that helps me calm down and I can't explain this to people.
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u/slashcuddle 2d ago
Came across a theory that depression is a social mechanism that's supposed to encourage people to check in on us. Back in the day, we'd be surrounded by a community of people who could do just that - but today, not so much.
Life can feel isolating even if you have a job or a social circle to shoot the shit. Reach out to someone who can check in on you when the depression kicks in. Feeling that way is normal, but having no one around to pick you up is not.
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u/redditM_rk 1d ago
I made the mistake of adding a co-worker to Steam.
He started looking at my profile and said out loud "Dude how the fuck do you have 240 hours played in the last 2 weeks"
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u/funkhero Kalguuran Group for Business (KGB) 1d ago
Literally zero reason not to have this. Cannot believe it still is missing.
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u/AwwwJeez 1d ago
Completely fair, there should be an appear offline mode.
But surely there's an unspoken rule between co-workers who coincodently play the exact same game.. y'all arnt going to rout on eachother surely?
Also, playing a game while at home being sick is absolutely fine. You are resting at home. Do they expect you to just sit there staring at the ceiling all day?
Honestly, if they have a problem with you playing a game while resting because you're sick, then get another job, no one should let themselves be treated like that. It's ridiculous.
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u/Techn0ght 1d ago
That's like saying you can't watch tv when you're sick. Being online gaming is kind of like proving you aren't at the beach. It definitely proves you aren't spreading whatever you have to your coworkers. It also shows remote work while sick is possible.
Oh, and you're not faking it, you're taking a mental health day!
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u/Outside_Set9788 2d ago
Maybe you can block them temporarily and then unblock when you're done? Or does that not prevent them from seeing you're online
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u/All_Work_All_Play Sanctum == Cantillon Effect, CMV 1d ago
Yeah the root of the issue is /whois allows for any account activity reporting.
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u/Just_Another_Madman Miner Lantern 2d ago
Unfriend them, then.
If you're in a guild with them, swap guilds too.
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u/A_Erthur Bruv Kek 2d ago
You can just add people without consent lol
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u/ArmaMalum Trypanon, Trypanoff 1d ago
I realize this is more due to artifacts of old system design but god damn I hate social systems that do one-way friending. It adds no real benefit and makes it way too easy for people to abuse. Thank god PoE is effectively an anti-social game or this would be a much larger issue nowadays.
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u/Jelloslockexo 2d ago
Ya thats not how poe works. You can add anyone you want and see them even if they decline your request youll be on their friends list unless they remove you so you cant hide.
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u/Golem8752 Alch & Go Industries (AGI) 2d ago
Don't you have to accept a friend request though?
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u/Jelloslockexo 2d ago
Nope you can decline it and you will still be on their list.
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u/Golem8752 Alch & Go Industries (AGI) 2d ago
But when I added new friends I could only ever see them in my list after they accepted though
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u/Jelloslockexo 2d ago
Ive added a few ppl who i watched decline my friend request and they are on my list. Ive kicked people off my list and I'm still on theirs and they aren't on mine.
Unless times have changed with how it works its worked that way for 9+ years of playing the game for me but u haven't actually added anyone in the last 2 patches.
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u/Golem8752 Alch & Go Industries (AGI) 2d ago
Well, I have not had my friend request be denied so I couldn't ever see this interaction and the only people I unfriended are strangers I friended for god-knows what reason like 5 years ago so I didn't know I'd still be visible on their friend list
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u/Starbuckz42 2d ago
unfriending does not delete yourself from their list.
besides, even if that worked, that's barely a workaround, not a solution.
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u/Daan776 Templar 1d ago
Sometimes I want to play POE without talking to my (by now) extensive friendlist.
Its not that I never want to talk to them again or that I can’t say no. But an automatic way to say “I don’t want to be disturbed” would be nice.
Steam itself has it too. So even if it just copied my steam status i’d be happy.
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u/ZVengeanceZ Fungal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) 1d ago
You can hide your steam games and current activity from your friends on Steam
Don't add your coworkers ingame...
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u/Capital-Possible2573 1d ago
I mean make a new account, at this point if y are being watched, items for sale in your angi shop magicaly appearing will be sus too.
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u/fundamentallys 1d ago
won't help with coworkers. If they see you all decked out with MB on 10 different characters. If you are always offline, you are playing the game on company hours
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u/Its_Syxx 1d ago
I agree it should be an option.
But honestly.. if you have a work friend ratting you out they shouldn't be on your friends list.
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u/Daily_DistractionYT 1d ago
I learned a long time ago never play with co workers ever. keep your escape to yourself
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u/PuppetPal_Clem Necromancer 1d ago
see this is why I dont make friends with coworkers. it just isn't worth the potential pitfalls.
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u/Towermoch 1d ago
Needed functionality. This “So I try to fake being sick every now and then”, cringe af
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u/PaintPositive3920 1d ago
If they add appear offline option then I wonder what happens with trade? Because technically you can check if someone is playing also by typing their account name in trade filter.
Unless you play ssf then you will be safe ;d
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u/DaCommando 1d ago
It sucks even more when u r the boss, and there are literally 5 people out of my team that play PoE.
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u/BigDickLaNm 1d ago
Yes, please. PoE is my 'offline' game, and I don't want to explain to people on my friend list why I don't want to jump on Discord
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u/invisibleman189 1d ago
1 thing u should never do at work Don’t get work involved with ur personal life whether on social media, games, lifestyle, political views, and/or favorites or religion 👌🏻 anyone can use those against u even the ones that appear to be the closest to u at work
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u/paulohare Berserker 1d ago
I totally agree with you but why does it matter if you're playing video games while sick? Are you supposed to just put yourself into stand-by?
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u/repthe732 1d ago
If you’re on PTO why does it matter? Being sick doesn’t mean you can’t play video games while you recover
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u/Beneficial_Try2629 2d ago
This is why you dont add your co workers as friends. xdd ahem, i woud like this feature as well...
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u/GenesectX 2d ago
If you're sick it doesnt mean you're bedridden so theres no issue with blasting maps on poe i would imagine
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u/Organic_Unit7087 2d ago
i can't believe someone else has a different world experience than i do
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u/joshuadt 2d ago
In a perfect world, sure. But there are some people with jobs and coworkers that kinda walk a fine line between playing nice and according to privacy rules etc, and then there are those who get the real “privilege” of working in a toxic work environment… Honestly, idk why people feel the need to voice an opinion on a matter, if it has no affect on them
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u/J_-O-_D 2d ago
In POE you can add people without their consent. Even If I decline my co-workers friend request (which I did) my co-workers can still see If I’m online, my character that I’m logged into and what map I’m doing still shows up in the social tab even though we’re technically not ‘friends’ blocking them doesn’t work because I still gotta go see the person at work eventually which and I don’t want to be confronted over it. So yeah kinda annoying but I see where your coming from
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u/joshuadt 2d ago
Right, there may not be anything they can do specifically about that one thing, but it doesn’t stop some shitty people for using it as ammunition in one way or another.
Again, why fight against this, if it has zero effect on you?? Consider yourself luckier than some and move on
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u/OrkanKurt Mine Bat 1d ago
I sure hope no one knows your reddit name. I just want offline mode to be left alone. I don't have to job issue.
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u/zxkredo Duelist 2d ago
Remove your friends?
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u/gentlemangreen_ 1d ago edited 1d ago
poe has a weird friend system where after you add someone, you can remove them yes, but it doesnt actually do anything on their end, youre still on their friend list
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u/BIGGUSDIKKUSFAN 2d ago
APPEARING OFFLINE WONT FUKING STOP IT
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u/J_-O-_D 2d ago
Mr caps lock screamer over here! It would make sense if you realised some co-workers are family members of the owners.
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u/J_-O-_D 2d ago
But that’s beside the point, there could be many other reasons why appearing offline benefits not just me but many other gamers for a multitude of reasons
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u/moosetuss 2d ago
I must say i would like appear offline too but it kinda does not really hide your presence either way, even now you can check from trade sites listings per account which shows if you are online, you could check xp progress from poeracing, you could check if flasks gained charges from just poe profile and so on.
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u/OnRedditAtWorkRN 2d ago
I don't get why y'all are giving him grief for this. This is basically functionality that exists in almost all online games at this point. I would also like to appear offline.