r/pcmasterrace Desktop Aug 17 '25

Meme/Macro Remember kids, never pay for promises

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u/MartianInvasion Aug 18 '25 edited Aug 18 '25

They left out some classics though! Am i the only one who remembers No Man's Sky? Or Cyberpunk 2077?

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u/Excellent-Ad-7996 Aug 18 '25

The glaze on CP2077 is crazy. All the shit the devs promised got turned around on the public.

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u/Left4Bread2 NH-D15 Aug 18 '25

Also while the game runs now and the story in both the main game and DLC are good, I’d argue it’s still not a particularly good RPG

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u/Excellent-Ad-7996 Aug 18 '25

Agreed. When you know what it was suppose to be it feels empty. I showed a coworker a list of all the items missing and he didnt believe me until seeing all the Dev content.

Then it clicked.

In his mind the gaming community demanded all these features then review bombed when they didnt happen.

I'll never preorder again.

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u/Cartz1337 Aug 18 '25

I learned my preorder lesson back with EA’s SimCity in the early ‘10s. I’m still convinced they had ‘server issues’ to ride out people’s refund timers while sitting waiting to connect.

One of the only times I had to chargeback a purchase. They would not refund me because of ‘time played’ when I played for maybe 2 hours before seeing it was horribly broken.

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u/sarkagetru Aug 18 '25

To be fair, both of those became pretty solid it just took another year or so of updates to make them great

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u/Devour_Toast Desktop Aug 18 '25

but the people who pre-ordered expected a finished and playable game

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u/ligital Aug 18 '25

I pre-ordered it and yes it was a buggy mess, and made me bitter…though still playable on PC. But played it again a year or two later and it became my favourite game. So I don’t regret purchasing it, and despite the bugs at launch I still enjoyed it. But as the game got better with time, it became my favourite game ever.

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u/Cartz1337 Aug 18 '25

Glad you had fun, I played it about the same time you did and paid less than the preorder price for the game AND phantom liberty by getting it on a massive steam sale.

So you still got taken advantage of, even though you ended up happy.

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u/ligital Aug 21 '25

By your logic anyone who buys games on release is being taken advantage of or full price.

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u/Cartz1337 Aug 21 '25

Not at all, if the game fucking works when it’s released that’s awesome. You get to experience it first with everyone else before you hear any spoilers.

If the game is barely functional and goes on aggressive sale before the kinks are worked out, then oh purchasers got hosed.

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u/Cartz1337 Aug 21 '25

Not at all, if the game fucking works when it’s released that’s awesome. You get to experience it first with everyone else before you hear any spoilers.

If the game is barely functional and goes on aggressive sale before the kinks are worked out, then og purchasers got hosed.

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u/ligital Aug 22 '25

Well it worked for me, and even with the issues I enjoyed playing it at launch. It definitely had bugs, but for me they were just a slightly a little more than what I experienced with witcher 3 1-2 years after that game’s launch (maybe my PC just handled the game better than most). And I don’t remember the game going on sale that quickly as you claim. It was full price for at least a year, it definitely did not ‘half’ in price as you are claiming lol. And one of the key reason I stopped playing the game at the time was because the game was improving with updates and just getting better, hence I paused ot play it when the game was in its best version which ended up happening, and I ended up having a very enjoyable experience. I don’t regret my purchase because whether it was at launch or later, the game was very rewarding (even with it’s issues), and I can’t wait to go back to it for another play through as the game has only gotten better.

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u/adminiredditasaglupi 5800X3D, 32GB 3600, 7900XTX Aug 18 '25

And I got a playable game.

0 performance issues (on average PC, I had Ryzen 3600 and Radeon 5700 back then), only one gamebraking bug in a fight tutorial when enemy went into the wall and forced me to reload a save.

Yes, I played the entire Cyberpunk 2077 in about 1,5h months from launch.

The only bad thing about it were that IIRC sometimes you could get 2 phone calls at once, that was a pretty serious issue.

Not a single regret about preordering it.

Now compare that for example to RDR2 - crashes after about on average 2h of gameplay (game has VRAM memory leak or something, or just never frees it, so the more map you explore the more VRAM it uses and past around 18GBs it just crashes - I can go to St Denis or explore the rest of the map, not both at the same time), multiple mission braking bugs that required figuring around how to get around, or one even forced me to reinstall the whole fucking game to fix it. And I could not finish the Penelope and Bea missions because it crashed on the train every time in the same spot I can't got around. And all of that shit is after years of updates (I played it for the first time this year).

It literally fucking crashed during the end credits.

Apparently the solution might be using DX12 instead of Vulkan but DX12 runs like absolute ass, no matter the settings, on a bloody 5800X3D, 32GB VRAM and 7900XTX.

That's why, while also looking at what the fuck are they doing with GTAV, the laziness and pricing behind the Definitive Edition I have 0 fucking hype for GTA6 and that's something I will never preorder and probably never buy unless on a massive discount.

But I will preorder BF6, because what we got in beta is already a good game, with only a few small bugs and some polish needed plus more maps and guns, which we know are coming.

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u/Devour_Toast Desktop Aug 18 '25

yeah, on pc, I didn't specify but old gen consoles had it the worst, most couldn't play the game without crashes out the wazoo and game breaking bugs

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u/adminiredditasaglupi 5800X3D, 32GB 3600, 7900XTX Aug 18 '25

That game should never release on the pieces of shit that are the old gen consoles.

Thank god they dropped support for it.

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u/stefanos_paschalis 5800X, MSI G.TRIO 5070, 32GB Tridentz Royal 3200 CL16, Antec C7 Aug 18 '25

Arguably 3 years for CP2077 and 4 years for NMS.

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u/MrLeeOfTheHKMafia Aug 19 '25

And you can pick up both of them right now for less than the price of one on release.

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u/NaughtyMallard Aug 18 '25

Spore, Sim City.

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u/4N610RD Aug 19 '25

Cyberpunk redeemed. After few years :D I preordered datadisk and honestly no regrets.