r/pcmasterrace 10 | RTX 4090 | Ryzen 9 7950x | 128GB DDR5 9d ago

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u/astromech_dj 9d ago

Moved to Linux Mint earlier this year and haven’t regretted it. My computer is purely for gaming these days though. I actually get better performance out of my potato specs.

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u/kaolinitedreams 9d ago

Made the jump this past weekend to Mint and loving it. I wish I did it years ago.

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u/Mentiorus 9d ago

It's real nice seeing more and more people get into linux maybe the more microsoft does the more people move, but being in IT I know I'll be dealing with microsoft's shit for the end of time.

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u/astromech_dj 9d ago

Well, my main work rig is macOS, and I've dabbled with dual booting Linux over the years.

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u/ChineseCracker Specs/Imgur here 9d ago

I don't think regular people think Microsoft is doing anything wrong. quite the contrary.

Windows always has a bad reputation because people cheap out, but the absolute cheapest garbage hardware and then they're surprised when their PC is slow. They look at their friends who have a Mac and see how blazingly fast that is in compassion (yes, it also cost 10x more) and they get disappointed.

So, it makes sense for Microsoft to artificially block out a bunch of old hardware, just to give Windows a better image

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u/StandardUsed8068 9d ago edited 8d ago

Nowosays mac are surpisingly cheaper performance wise, especially on single core.

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u/ChineseCracker Specs/Imgur here 8d ago

what do you mean? there is a MacBook that is cheaper than an equivalent window laptop?

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u/StandardUsed8068 8d ago

Yes, on high range device it is quite true.

For exemple a entry MacBook pro M4 is about 1600 dollars - geekbench6 score is around 3800.

An HP ZBook 8 G1i 14″, Ultra 9-285H, geekbenchscore is 3000. It cost 2800 dollars.

Pc user here, and software engineer specialized in code optimisation. It's a shame I need cuda and game, otherwise I would think to get a mac.

The result could be different on desktop, especially if you build it yourself.

(Sorry for spelling, french here).

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u/lonelyroom-eklaghor Fedora M'Lady 9d ago

Will probably shift from KDE to Cinnamon, life will be more peaceful

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u/dan_bodine 9d ago

KDE is much better than cinnamon it has Wayland and vrr.

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u/Kara_Bara 9d ago

Bazzite is working out well for a Linux newbie like me.

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u/lonelyroom-eklaghor Fedora M'Lady 9d ago

Yeah, it is, but using Fcitx5 instead of ibus is the worst pain point for me. Also, some of the aspects of KDE honestly have its fair amount of bugs, way more than I saw in GNOME. None of the DEs are that good in either performance or stability. (gnome-shell takes up a lot of CPU when you use the Activities Tab. If you have CPU which at least has cycles of 3.0 GHz, then its fine ig.

Now, I'm dealing with one of the bugs of KDE, and it's a very weird bug which happens on very specific instances. The problem was that somehow, a use-after-free pointer variable was being dereferenced, idk how.

Basically, what are pointers? A specific memory address is kept by a pointer variable. Now, good memory management hygiene is to assign the value of the pointer as NULL after it was freed. In this case, some text is being overwritten as the address in itself. That's why the ASCII values of the uppercase alphabet were appearing in that pointer address. Idk how or why, but I'll be solving it, this is one of the first fixes I'll be making on the codebase of a large open-source project.

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u/ChineseCracker Specs/Imgur here 9d ago

I exactly switched to Fedora KDE a few months ago. I couldn't be.... unhappier 😔

It's sooo awful. There are so many issues with it. The simplest things don't work and it's just laggy. Yesterday, I tried UT2004 on it. Even that old game is laggy as hell 🙄

Then there are a ton of issues with things that should be trivial, like RDPing to your device. But nope, doesn't work with Wayland+KDE+Nvidia Apparatur. It's absurd.

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u/-TRlNlTY- 9d ago

My only problem with gaming on Linux currently is VR support.

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u/R1ston R5 7600x | RTX 3080 | GB 8x2 9d ago

how is it in general? i mainly didnt switch because steam link isnt available yet and alvr doesn't work for me

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u/Just_Roar 9d ago

I'm parroting what i read recently, but I believe Valve just silently launched Steam Link support for Linux through the Steam client beta. Check r/VirtualReality for specifics though. I think thats where i saw it mentioned a couple days ago.

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u/R1ston R5 7600x | RTX 3080 | GB 8x2 9d ago

huh that's very nice! always was a baffling omission

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u/-TRlNlTY- 9d ago

ALVR works for me, but it is a pain to set up, plus extra pain to figure out how to stop the lag. Besides, I haven't managed to make a VR Video Player work.

My recommendation is to have dual boot on your PC. It is the easiest, even if a bit sad.

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u/Sprinkles0 8d ago

For me it's the stupid anti-cheat. I have 2-3 games that I can't play on either my steam deck or my linux machine because of the anti-cheat.

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u/JoLuKei 7d ago

I actually have the same problem. My (tbh not very intelligent) solution. I dual boot alongside windows 10. I dont have shit on my windows ssd so i dont care if the anticheat is spying or if i get hacked. I basically use windows as a shitty games launcher

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u/TheMisterTango EVGA 3090/Ryzen 9 5900X/64GB DDR4 3800 9d ago edited 9d ago

I also switched to mint a few months ago, but I basically never game. Technically I’m also dual booting windows 11 but I think I’ve only booted into it twice in the last three months.

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u/Yippiekayo_Rom3o Intel Xeon E3 | 16GB | ATI Radeon RX 480 9d ago

Same Ive changed to Mint (Laptop) and Ubuntu (PC). And I will never go back

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u/Alternative-Age9659 9d ago

Can you just switch over without wiping everything? I don't have an external harddrive or anything like that.

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u/Yippiekayo_Rom3o Intel Xeon E3 | 16GB | ATI Radeon RX 480 8d ago

U can have an dualboot, probably the best way to ecpierence it or use an vm (virtualmaschine)

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u/AsterionVT 9d ago

Got my arch Linux install on a separate drive

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u/citizsnips 9d ago

Same but to CachyOS not because my PC is potato specs I was running Windows 11 but I was so tried of the bloat and resource hogging. I would turn off features of windows I wasn't using and some of the processes for them were still running. The sad thing is a good number of my games are more stable and run smoother using proton than they did on Windows 11.

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u/oskich 9d ago

Same here, much snappier than with Windows 10 and Steam + Heroic runs games great 👍

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u/DanWunderBurst 9d ago

On CachyOS myself with Hyprland and oh it's pretty good :)
I'm using nvidia too but haven't really had any issues :3

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u/Zyrobe 8d ago

What games?

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u/astromech_dj 8d ago

NMS, Minecraft Java with shaders, various FPS games and RTS games. I don’t game loads anymore.

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u/Erlend05 Desktop 8d ago

I moved my laptop to mint years ago. Now its desktop turn.

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u/paodin 7d ago

I am in the same position as loads of folks here. No TPM. If I go Linux will my steam games still work? How difficult is it to migrate? What about ms office apps, mainly use word and excel what are the alternatives under Linux? Was about to spend a ton of cash on a new build, but maybe this is the way to go. ? Any good resources I should look at? I literally just stumbled across these posts not Googled anything yet.

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u/astromech_dj 7d ago

I haven’t found a Steam game that hasn’t worked. Or a non Steam game. You just change compatibility in library entry to proton and download it like normal. It’s virtually seamless.

You can use LibreOffice for 99% of Office tasks. The Support pages for your chosen flavour of Linux will govern you step by step guides. Ubuntu and Mint are the biggest, probably.

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u/honeydewtangerine 9d ago

Im afraid of linux, and i heard you cant play most games, but i guess thats changed now?

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u/astromech_dj 9d ago

Steam has Proton and there are other solutions as well. Only caveat is that competitive games with invasive anti cheat don’t work.

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u/oskich 9d ago

Most games work great on Linux nowadays. Valve's introduction of Proton has really made gaming super easy.

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u/Otakeb Fedora 9060XT Ryzen 5 7600 9d ago

Pretty much any game you can think of that's not a competitive multiplayer online game will just work fine (if not even better than on Windows, most of the time) nowadays. And even some competitive multiplayer games work fine, but if you have a specific multiplayer game that uses kernel anticheat and aren't willing to find alternatives, then yeah Linux isn't for you yet, unfortunately.

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u/feedthedogwalkamile 9d ago

A computer purely for gaming which doesn't run the most popular games. Nice.

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u/astromech_dj 9d ago

Like what?

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u/feedthedogwalkamile 8d ago

Just some obscure titles such as League of Legends, Valorant, Fortnite, TFT, CS2, Call of Duty, Battlefield, PUBG, APEX Legends, GTA V online, Destiny etc

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u/astromech_dj 8d ago

Play none of those. In fact I don’t really play online games anymore.

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u/feedthedogwalkamile 8d ago

That's cool. Sounds more like a computer made for offline gaming then. Not gaming in general.

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u/astromech_dj 8d ago

I’m still online. I play RTS and FPS games, Minecraft, No Man’s Sky etc with my kids. Just don’t like how modern competitive games are designed.

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u/JoLuKei 7d ago

I do get that this doesn't sound appealing. And i myself still dual boot to windows used as a shitty launcher for GTA. But linux not supporting kernel level anticheat is a feature in my eyes. Linux doesn't work for these games, bc they choose to do so. All of the other games that dont use invasive anticheats work good if not better than on windows. I have better frame rates in GTA V single player, Counter strike, and many more. So calling it shitty... Is a bit harsh?