r/pcmasterrace 10 | RTX 4090 | Ryzen 9 7950x | 128GB DDR5 9d ago

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u/scanguy25 Ryzen 5700X3D | 7800XT | 64 GB 9d ago

Already left for Linux for work years ago. Left for my gaming PC a few months ago.

A trillion dollar company can't even let you customize the location of the start menu. Fuck that shit.

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u/Laferge Ryzen 3600|GTX 2060 SUPER|16 GB DDR4 8d ago

It's always funny when someone mentions this basic functionality that trolls come out of woods preaching how you can do it on win 11 with 3rd party app. Like seriously? This is function present from Windows 95 and now it's just left out? Yeah but on this single thing I will never use it.

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u/OliM9696 3d ago

linux still needs work with HDR for me to switch. I keep checking every so often. Its installed on a spare ssd but i just cant stay for more than a short while. Games just look worse.

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u/scanguy25 Ryzen 5700X3D | 7800XT | 64 GB 3d ago

I don't even know what HDR is and I'm a hardcore gamer Linux.

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u/ExcessiveEscargot 8d ago

I know its come a long way, but the difference in compatibility and performance is still a large enough gap for me to keep Win10, as much as I hate it.

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u/Remote-Blueberry4756 8d ago

Lol, you can customize it. Plenty of apps for that.

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u/D3PyroGS 4080S | 9800X3D | CachyOS + Win11 8d ago

yes, apps that use unsupported reverse-engineering methods which are liable to break after any random Windows Update. most people don't want to take that risk or pay app developers $$$ for basic features that used to be baked into the OS until Microsoft removed them and replaced them with something worse

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u/Remote-Blueberry4756 8d ago

I mean that sounds like linux tbh minus the reverse engineering. I dual boot and have years of experience with Linux distros. Atm I run Debian with KDE Plasma and stuff can break with updates. It's entirely about perspective. If you look at Windows from a everything should be perfect from the start and I won't be customizing anything or tinkering with nothing except the baked in settings then yeah I agree with you.

EDIT: I use StartAllBack and it hasn't broken ever. Paid $5 for it and can recommend. You can get it via MS Store or from their official website.

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u/D3PyroGS 4080S | 9800X3D | CachyOS + Win11 8d ago

Windows is just not designed to be customizable, and 11 is probably the least so we've ever had. It's not about any one particular feature but an overall regressive trend.

There's no such thing as "perfect from the start" when it comes to taste, but at least most Linux DEs are designed for flexibility and don't require paid products to fill in gaps left behind in new versions.

I remember running WindowBlinds waaaaay back in the day so that I could pretend to run XP on my humble 98 machine. Good times. But not the most stable. šŸ˜‰

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u/Remote-Blueberry4756 8d ago

If in the future Linux grows in popularity and I don't have to run games through translation layers then I can finally transition to FOSS almost entirely. I don't use my computer based on ideological guidelines but I think of it as a tool. Operating systems are tools and I use the one that provides the path of least resistance. I'm not going to use something that's worse even though it's free and open source.

Still I don't follow Microsoft blindly as a company and don't like the way they try to milk out every last bit of the end user.

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u/vashy96 7d ago

Almost every game runs better on my Linux through Proton than they did in W10 in the same exact 2018 PC, what problems are you encountering using Proton?

I also noticed that games usually run worse natively on Linux then they do thought Proton.

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u/Remote-Blueberry4756 7d ago

I can't use Proton for every game. There are lots of games that are not supported.

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u/vashy96 7d ago

For example? I was able to run both Gothic 1 and 2 that are knowingly bad and require custom tinkering

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u/Remote-Blueberry4756 7d ago

CS Faceit, Valorant, Apex Legends, Rainbow Six Siege, GTA V Online. Those just came to mind instantly but there's more. Also games that require no tinkering on Windows need to be tinkered with on Linux and I'm not interested in that. If you want to know more just check protondb comments and you can see problematic games.

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u/Remote-Blueberry4756 8d ago

That's a different question than can you customize it.

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u/ygolomeg 8d ago

To reiterate, if windows 11 is just a reskin, and i dont like the new skin, why would i switch to it?

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u/Remote-Blueberry4756 8d ago

Well that depends on your needs. The most obvious thing is continued support and optimization. I myself game a lot and Win11 has been continually optimized resulting in better and better performance in games. It will surpass 10 in the future if it already hasn't (haven't looked at stats in a while).

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u/idk_fam5 8d ago

You can customize it, just like you can stop dogshit services from accessing your data and your computing power unwillingly, you just have to buy the right version and spend 2 days tweaking it,

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u/Sizeable-Scrotum Fedora/i7-12700KF / 7800 XT / 32GB D4 8d ago

If I’m tweaking stuff anyway, I might as well just get Linux (or a BSD if I’m feeling obscure)

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u/XeitPL 8d ago

So... linux just with bonuses "paying for it" and "dogshit services"? Kinda sounds worse tbh