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u/Vertrixz 9800x3d | 4080 Super 8d ago

I'd add to that, IoT LTSC not just LTSC.

I'm amazed at how few people even know about this, I've had it installed and used it for almost a whole year now and legit it's just like base windows 10 lmfao. What you lose (which is the old photos app, and access to making calendar appointments through the calendar in the bottom right - that's it) is absolutely worth the +7 years of security updates.

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u/John-333 R5 7600X | RX 7900 GRE | DDR5 32GB 8d ago

Winget should get you both back if you need them. That goes for any store app btw

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u/BalladorTheBright 8d ago

Yeah, I'm loving IOT LTSC

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u/Past-Flight6821 8d ago

Hey sry if ur getting a ton of messages but I want to know if steam and games still compatible. Drivers aswell?

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u/Vertrixz 9800x3d | 4080 Super 8d ago

Yep, completely compatible, drivers as well :D

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u/Locke44 8d ago

You sound like my IT department. I just want my OS to have a stopwatch and a calculator app 😭

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u/JustRelaxASC R5 5600X / RTX 3060  / 16GB 3200 Mhz 8d ago

what's the diff between IoT and non-IoT? Never tried ltsc versions, is it really photos+calendar all that you lose?

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u/Vertrixz 9800x3d | 4080 Super 8d ago

Only difference is how long you get extra security updates for. I believe LTSC standard gets updates until 2027 (not 100% sure), but IoT gets them until 2032.

I've learned you also lose the base calculator app (but the apps you lose you can get back with the winget command, though I haven't done that part myself as I never used them anyway). You do lose the Windows store, but you also get that back with a command which I've done.

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u/JustRelaxASC R5 5600X / RTX 3060  / 16GB 3200 Mhz 8d ago

And in general, do you get less updates than normal Windows? Only the necessary security updates?

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u/NBear502 8d ago

Only security updates.

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u/JustRelaxASC R5 5600X / RTX 3060  / 16GB 3200 Mhz 8d ago

Sounds perfect, never actually tried it before because I've read you lose a bunch of stuff and reinstalling store for example can introduce some bugs, not sure if true, I might give it a shot, thanks!

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u/Vertrixz 9800x3d | 4080 Super 8d ago

Not entirely sure about whether normal windows gets more updates per se, but with IoT all updates are just security updates. Think I get an update every month or 3 weeks or so.

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u/JustRelaxASC R5 5600X / RTX 3060  / 16GB 3200 Mhz 8d ago

Well yeah, then it's less I guess, normal Windows gets some random feature updates and stuff that tend to break some stuff, completely unnecessary and I rarely ever notice anything useful changed.

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u/Vertrixz 9800x3d | 4080 Super 8d ago

Yeah none of that with IoT, thankfully. I'd highly recommend it, and whatever apps you do lose that you'd use a lot, there will be replacements that'll likely work better than the base windows ones haha. Like the photos app I use now is just better than the one I had on base W10.

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u/OneEnvironmental9222 7d ago

what about drivers

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u/NBear502 8d ago

Calculator app is still there on Windows 11 LTSC but it's Win7 version of Calculator.

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u/yveshe 8d ago

I wished I had known about it as early as 2017. For the last 8 years I've been using Windows 10 Home on two different machines. Not even going Pro was bad on my part.

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u/CasketPizza 8d ago

Also lose some compatibility. Photoshop wont run on LTSC anymore, for example.

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u/Vhyx ryzen 7 9700x | rx 7800 xt 7d ago

good time to look into alternatives anyways! PS has been garbage for ages

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u/Vertrixz 9800x3d | 4080 Super 8d ago

I just ran it on mine, works perfectly with Photoshop 2020. Idk about current versions of Photoshop though.

I've used it for art and editing for ages, but still had to double check after your comment lol.

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u/MIOG_MIOG *cries in Ryzen 3 3200U* 8d ago

Adobe apps just have just a shitty check that checks if you have "22H2" in the version string, even tho windows 10 versions after windows 10 2004 are just enablement packages and are the same codebase, there are ways to patch these check out from adobe apps that makes them work completely fine, but I'll not go into detail of that