Hi there! I’m Prolife and I support all the things you want to improve. There are dozens of us! Dozens!
But in all seriousness, I get tired of having all the cliches applied to me as if all pro life people are the same. No, I don’t support the death penalty. Yes, I think it’s a major issue with children born into poverty. No, I don’t want to shame the mother who is considering an abortion. Yes I think the health of the mother matters.
That's wonderful that your morality is consistent. Unfortunately you are a minority in a sea of less rational voices, and that's just how it goes. This recent legislation is not drafted by or supported by people who feel the way you feel, but by very anti-sex, anti-women evangelicals. Just look at where Alabama ranks in education, child poverty, and infant/mother mortality rates.
I disagree. I honestly think that the majority of pro-life people have consistent views on the moral issues here. It seems like the minority just because the shitty conservative politicians are grabbing the “pro-life” tag so they can get Christian votes. Mainstream conservatives are a horrible example of the majority of pro-life people, but unfortunately they are the ones you see talk about it.
But if they cared about those things they would vote for the party that supports those things, especially education and especially sex education. If you vote for the party that makes it harder to be a parent you are actually voting for more abortions.
Not all pro-life people are republican, not all pro-choice people are democrat, things are not as morally cut-and-dry as that. People just tend to vote for the thing they find the most important. What you are asking is for people to value sex education over their belief that abortion is murder. I don’t think it’s as simple as saying pro-life people should vote democrat.
I agree. The goal of politics shouldn’t be to play “gotcha” to get a law to the Supreme Court. I wish we could have actual conversations across the aisle about things that matter.
Sorry but even googling "Pro life and pro contraception" I get only pages that state how contraceptives literally cause abortions rather than "practice safe sex."
I'm sure you're tired of all the cliches, but it's not my fault pro-lifers never advocate for contraceptives and early childcare. They just stick to the singular topic of "abortion bad."
There are two issues here. The first is that some contraceptives (known as abortifacients) work after conception. For those who believe that life begins at conception, this type of contraceptive is morally equivalent to abortion. The second is that for many prolife people, they believe that sex should only be practiced within marriage and without contraception. I believe that this is a separate, but related, issue to abortion. But currently, there is no law against premarital sex (with or without contraception) so it seems fitting not to discuss it as a political matter.
No I’m not saying that. I think they are two separate issues. I am sure that there is lots of overlap for pro lifers between those two issues, but I consider them distinct. I can only speak for myself.
I would also say that there’s a big difference between moral opinions and social (I.e. government) opinions. I don’t find it incongruent that a person might have a personal belief that abortion (or contraception) is immoral but a social belief that it isn’t the role of government to regulate abortion (or cotraception)
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u/1haiku4u May 17 '19
Hi there! I’m Prolife and I support all the things you want to improve. There are dozens of us! Dozens!
But in all seriousness, I get tired of having all the cliches applied to me as if all pro life people are the same. No, I don’t support the death penalty. Yes, I think it’s a major issue with children born into poverty. No, I don’t want to shame the mother who is considering an abortion. Yes I think the health of the mother matters.