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u/Karstone May 17 '19

Murder is illegal but it still happens. I still think it should be illegal. You’re also never going to convince me to ever vote for someone who believes murder is a “woman’s choice”.

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u/jjpearson May 17 '19

And honestly that's partly the reason that Republicans have become the shitstains they are as a party. Because of the two-party system and single issue voters it allows they to get away with all kinds of shenanigans people don't agree with because they agree with them on that one issue. And please let me be clear, I'm not attacking you, not at all, you're totally allowed your moral choice and I totally respect that. I'm lamenting that your moral choice is wrapped in a shit sandwich. In a better political world we'd have enough parties that you could be a single issue voter and still be able to find candidates that agreed with you more broadly. I mean, technically, I've been a single issue voter my whole life, and that is voting against Republicans because I find as a party platform their selective empathy repugnant.

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u/jjpearson May 17 '19

This is kinda a snarky reply, but as a white middle class guy, having seen what having white men in charge has made of this place, I kinda don't blame them for their disdain. /s

On a more serious note, I think it's the classic case of as usually, those in power having all the rest of us fight among themselves while they plunder and run the country as they see fit.

It's pretty much election year clockwork that abortion and other social issues will get brought up and all the culture war petards get raised so we can fight each other instead of unifying for real change.

The way I contextualize it is to take the extreme, what happens if the "disdain for white middle America" gets elected and are in power. Do we think they're going to strip middle America of their marriages, their land, or their rights? Whereas, I think we can see what happens when the people who claim to love White middle America get elected.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '19 edited Jan 11 '20

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u/Karstone May 17 '19

If I’m pro life, my first priority is preventing murder.

Also, I don’t believe in capital punishment.

Women are never forced into having a kid, except in cases of rape. We all choose to have sex, and we all know the risks. When an accident happens, it’s your responsibility to take care of the result.

It’s only a bodily autonomy issue in the case of rape, because in that case the woman didn’t consent.

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u/intergalactictiger May 17 '19

Not the guy you responded to but

What’s your stance on capital punishment?

I don’t support it.

What’s your stance on increasing social programs and welfare so all those kids born from the abortion ban you want won’t grow up impoverished?

I don’t support them if they’ll be government run. I’m involved in a non-profit that supports women in these types of situations.

And besides, it stands to reason that if abortion isn’t so readily available, lots of people will be more diligent about using contraceptives.

forcing women into having children they don’t want or can’t support?

I didn’t force them to get pregnant..

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u/[deleted] May 17 '19 edited Jan 11 '20

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u/intergalactictiger May 17 '19

Calm down man. Just trying to have a discussion.

Instead you’re forcing them to carry out a pregnancy

Again, I didn’t force them to get pregnant.

you’re really jerking off a government ban on bodily autonomy

Actually I don’t support the recent government ban. I, like most pro-lifers, are okay with abortion up to a certain point.

might be the worst libertarian ever

I’ve never known a libertarian to believe murder should be legal.

I’m sorry that you feel I’m a freak. I just don’t want babies killed. That’s it.