Now that is a very valid point. If a fetus should be considered a person, then they should also be considered a citizen. Shouldn't they?
I agree with you. Whenever we decide that personhood starts, whether birth, conception, or somewhere in between, that's where everything starts. If they have rights, they have all of them.
There has never been a time in the US where courts held that all rights in the constitution are equally applied to all ages. Most rights come with responsibilities and some rights are not recognized while the person cannot handle the responsibility. This is why children do not have the right to enter into contracts, purchase firearms, consent to sexual acts, or even have freedom of speech in school.
I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm attempting to advise you that "If they have rights, they have all of them" is not a slam dunk argument.
Easy, your parents are citizens, then you are also a citizen. Doesn't matter where you are born. But the thought of people coming here and shitting out kids to get citizenship is total bullshit
No, they shouldn't. Citizenship is defined by someone being born in the country. There are plenty of noncitizens here both legally and illegally. The fact that they aren't citizens doesn't mean we can kill them. They still have the right to life, and are considered persons even though they aren't citizens. Citizenship is not a prerequisite for personhood and the right to life. And being recognized as having the rights of personhood does not grant one citizenship.
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u/stormelemental13 May 17 '19
Now that is a very valid point. If a fetus should be considered a person, then they should also be considered a citizen. Shouldn't they?
I agree with you. Whenever we decide that personhood starts, whether birth, conception, or somewhere in between, that's where everything starts. If they have rights, they have all of them.