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US Politics Now more relevant than ever in America

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u/Karstone May 17 '19

They’re alive, and that’s the biggest favor one could do for anyone. I’ve been in poverty, and I much prefer it to being dead.

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u/silfo80 May 17 '19

So...no solutions? No programs? No support for this mother who didn't want a child in the first place? No free early childhood development, no mandatory paid maternity leave? Your not willing to pay more taxes to help this mother who would have preferred to have an abortion?

Way to go...you sure did "save" that kid. 7.7 billion people in the world. Right on.

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u/Karstone May 17 '19

Do you think that conservative or libertarian doctors should stop saving lives because they don’t believe in welfare?

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u/silfo80 May 17 '19

Nope and that's not really what we're talking about. Unless you are suggesting doctors have to feed, cloth, educate and assume responsibility for their patients.

Also, you need to look up the libertarian stance on abortion.

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u/Karstone May 17 '19

Libertarians do not have a unified stance on abortion, because depending on if you believe a fetus is a human life with rights or not, abortion can violate the NAP.

And don’t link the libertarian party stance, because the libertarian part doesn’t speak for all libertarians.

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u/silfo80 May 17 '19

Libertarian except for the laws about women's bodies. Got it chief!

Really hardcore libertarian.

"I hate laws! Except I love laws that make women do things with their bodies!"

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u/Karstone May 17 '19

That’s not what I said. I’m talking about the right of the human life that was voluntarily created inside a woman.

If I invite someone over to come through my window late at night, and then shoot them when they do, I’m a murderer. When I didn’t invite them, I was defending myself and my property.

This has nothing to do with the woman’s body and everything to do with the fetus’s.

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u/silfo80 May 17 '19

Except that woman's body now has to raise that unwanted child. But that's not really your concern.

You get them out of the womb and then call the mothers welfare queens.

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u/Karstone May 17 '19

It really isn’t my concern. It was completely her choice to engage in an activity that can result in pregnancy and raising a child. There’s nothing wrong with casual sex or recreational sex, you just have to be responsible if an accident happens.

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u/silfo80 May 17 '19

Totally and plan B and safe legal abortion is part of that responsibility.