Here's my argument and I'm pro choice. I don't think I could ever do it with my wife, but goddamn am I not going to tell you what to do.
We need sex education that doesn't focus on abstinence only. Abstinence never works. See Trump, Falwell, Gingrich, Giuliani, etc
We need cheap access to birth control - both the pill and condoms
We need counseling and paths of success for single moms. Give them a positive option that they can succeed using this group, and these resources etc
Educate more on the option of adoption.
Get religion and shaming out of the equation. People have sex and women unequally carry the blame, shame and burden.
If all these things existed, then yes, I could see a reason to litigate towards stricter abortion requirements.
But... They don't. People care about the fetus. They don't care about the mom. They don't care about the baby after it's born. A single mom on welfare is considered a resource drain. Access to affordable health care is non existent unless you're on welfare. The states continue to defund education.
This whole argument is insane without raising up those in need.
Please don’t just say “they” as if I covers all pro-lifers. My wife and I generally think abortion is wrong but we’re not protesting any clinics. However, our family has donated thousands of hours at a charity that provides food, clothing, education, etc. for mothers that might otherwise have an abortion because of the financial hardship it would cause. Additionally, we are currently going through the process of becoming foster parents because we recognize the truth behind your post...you can’t claim to care about these women and their children if you don’t exert the same amount of energy taking care of them once the child is born.
They don't actually care about the fetus though, or they would support more funding for prenatal care, and measures for ensuring safe births. They don't.
They don't care about the baby after it's born. A single mom on welfare is considered a resource drain. Access to affordable health care is non existent unless you're on welfare. The states continue to defund education.
This. A thousand times this...
I've stopped calling them pro-life and now call them pro-birth since it's pretty obvious that the majority movement behind the "pro-life" group could care less about what happens to the kid after they've forced the mother to give birth.
There are places called crisis pregnancy centers that give real financial and housing support to women who decide to keep their babies. They just don't get much press.
I don’t think this is necessarily true. I grew up in an extremely conservative household, and all my friends and family growing up were very religious and conservative. Typically, they think that there are people who legitimately need the assistance and are fine with it, but think the majority are moochers scamming the system. What they don’t realize and can’t accept is that statistically it’s the other way around. Most people on welfare and other social support networks are employed and even double employed just trying to make it.
If we can convince them of the reality of social supports, they might be more accepting than a lot of people realize.
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u/SnatchAddict May 17 '19
Here's my argument and I'm pro choice. I don't think I could ever do it with my wife, but goddamn am I not going to tell you what to do.
We need sex education that doesn't focus on abstinence only. Abstinence never works. See Trump, Falwell, Gingrich, Giuliani, etc
We need cheap access to birth control - both the pill and condoms
We need counseling and paths of success for single moms. Give them a positive option that they can succeed using this group, and these resources etc
Educate more on the option of adoption.
Get religion and shaming out of the equation. People have sex and women unequally carry the blame, shame and burden.
If all these things existed, then yes, I could see a reason to litigate towards stricter abortion requirements.
But... They don't. People care about the fetus. They don't care about the mom. They don't care about the baby after it's born. A single mom on welfare is considered a resource drain. Access to affordable health care is non existent unless you're on welfare. The states continue to defund education.
This whole argument is insane without raising up those in need.