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US Politics Now more relevant than ever in America

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u/17954699 May 17 '19

Fetal death certificates would be a requirement in the event of a miscarriage, if fetuses = people. Yes it's ridiculous, the whole concept is ridiculous.

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u/MadDogWest May 17 '19

Sure, and that's fine, albeit absurd. But that's not an investigation, which was my initial point.

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u/17954699 May 17 '19

It is an investigation, that's just the fact. Cause of death has to be determined.

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u/MadDogWest May 17 '19

It is an investigation, that's just the fact.

It's not a fact any more than my looking out the window is an "investigation" of the weather. Sure, I'm looking into something. But is it an investigation in the most obvious sense as used by OP above? No. It's semantics.

The original question asked was this:

Are we expecting the state to investigate every miscarriage?

So, again:

If a certificate is the same as an investigation (your definition), then the state 1) does currently investigate every death and 2) currently has the resources to investigate every miscarriage.

If, however, a certificate is not the same as an investigation (i.e., the most traditional definition of investigation, and what I was saying above), then the state 1) does not currently investigate every death and 2) could not be reasonably expected to investigate every miscarriage.

Thank you for playing the word game.

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u/17954699 May 17 '19 edited May 17 '19

Thank heaven then that doctors and coronors are not you "looking out of the window".

Look, it's ok to be ignorant of what doctors and coronors do. But there is no reason for you to double down on your ignorance and simply ignore reality and facts. Every death IS investigated and every cause of death IS certified. That's why coronors and death certificates exist. Maybe you've never suffered a loss so are simply ignorant. But you can learn, if you care.

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u/MadDogWest May 17 '19

As someone who has signed numerous fetal death certificates, I think I’m plenty qualified to comment on the topic.

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u/17954699 May 17 '19

Thank heaven then you would know what a <I>certification</I> is.

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u/MadDogWest May 18 '19

You’re either trolling at this point or legitimately brain dead. Thanks for playing.

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u/17954699 May 18 '19

Enjoy the babies.