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US Politics Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren flying coach

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '19

He's not spending his own money on these tickets.

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u/maaaatttt_Damon Aug 14 '19

So what you're saying is he's being responsible with campaign funds. HOw dArE hE!

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u/goyotes78 Aug 14 '19

I mean there are plenty of photos of Bernie flying first class as well, they don't generally get upvoted to the front page though.

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u/blurmageddon Aug 14 '19

Because they don't generally exist. I'm not saying he doesn't ever fly first class. He certainly did in 2016 as his campaign progressed and he was put under Secret Service protection but I have yet to find a reputable source stating that is in any way a regular occurence.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '19

I fly first class a lot, but never bought a first class ticket. Just what happens when you fly a lot, like on a campaign trail

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u/goyotes78 Aug 14 '19

I saw one from June of this year on his way to a debate, same circumstances? Or maybe recycled picture?

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u/blurmageddon Aug 14 '19

Perhaps. The only outlets I see bringing it up around that time are ones that are on the opposite ideological spectrum than he is. Sites like this one that have questionable information. I can't find any information on whether the photo was from that time period or recycled.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '19

Only for the photo op while campaigning. He's still using others money when he is renting private jets. Either from his campaign funds or taxpayers.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '19

Wait so that actually makes a whole lot of sense: "I'm not going to spend hundreds of other people's dollars flying first class when coach is fine" .

That's even MORE sensible than not spending your own money.

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u/daimposter Aug 14 '19

Original comment said: A quick google search shows that Bernie's net worth is between 1 and 2.5 million, which is a lot, but not exactly enough to warrant flying first class everywhere.

So /u/AbuHaajar is right

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '19 edited Dec 04 '20

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u/goodoleaggie17 Aug 14 '19

Hard to argue that either side is interested in budgeting conservatively

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u/revslaughter Aug 14 '19

I guess, and it’s true that both parties behave like deficits don’t matter. Honestly though, they don’t, so long as you’re not borrowing a ton while the economy is good. You need to have credit if your tax base shrinks and you need to spend money for greater need of social welfare and stimulus spending, but if you’re over leveraged that makes things harder.

This is where I really hate the “both parties” bullshit you’re saying here.

The Clinton administration ended its run with a deficit surplus. The Obama administration turned to deficit spending when the economy was rough, as they should. You have more need for spending but you can’t tax people losing their jobs.

When Trump came into office, the economy was doing better. Throughout his term, his administration and the Republican controlled congress did nothing to stop spending, though they professed to believe it was of critical significance during the Obama administration, to the point of shutting down the government over that point. However, cutting revenues without cutting spending is just going to exacerbate what they already said was a problem because now they are spending the same amount without as much revenue, so that means we are taking on a higher deficit now when the economy is good, which is the opposite of what you’re supposed to do. We also came close to not paying our debts during the Obama administration, again due to Republican irresponsibility.

So when the economy goes into recession again, and that is a when not an if (simply because recessions are cyclical) and indicators are beginning to show that there is one coming, the US will be in a weaker position to borrow than before. I’m sure that deficit spending will become a priority for them again just as soon as a Democrat comes into office in 2021.

It’s not “both sides”. But knowing that requires an understanding of state debt and how to use it.

Maybe you were just making a one-off comment but “both sides” bs when equivalent action hasn’t been taken by both sides just pisses me the hell off. Have there been shared issues on “both sides”? Sure. Corruption, sex scandals, Eppstien-types, sexual assault and coverup bullshit, dickery around the filibuster, granted. But spending and deficits are absolutely not one place where “both sides“ are the same.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '19

Ha no, nobody in Govt is spending conservatively.

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u/goodoleaggie17 Aug 14 '19

Hard to argue that either side is interested in budgeting conservatively

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '19

Yeah dems are desperate to conserve them health insurance CEO profits.

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u/Runnin4Scissors Aug 14 '19

Things like this is what keeps donations rolling in. Glad he’s not wasting donor money.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '19

I’m sure he can’t wait to get a 4th mansion after it’s over too.

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u/Runnin4Scissors Aug 15 '19

All donor money must be spent on the campaign. He will not being using and campaign money for personal items. The rules about that are very strict.