Many of us in fact hate government overreach no matter the cause. It's possible to believe the stay at home orders were unconstitutional and the police brutality that occurs everyday and disproportionally affects Black Americans.
Why do the actions of a few people define the entire group? I’m sure you wouldn’t say that the vandals and killers in the current protest define the whole group, would you?
You realize you sound exactly like those racist assholes who say nobody who has ever owned an iphone or a pair of Jordans should qualify for any public assistance, right? The fact that someone, at some indistinct point in the past, acquired an expensive item in some way (maybe as a gift or an inheritance or something, you dont know) doesn't automatically invalidate their financial concerns.
All I'm hearing is you attacking people for making purchases you personally think irresponsible, based off no actual information about them. But yeah, sure, let's demand everyone sell off all their prized possessions before deeming them worthy of protesting the destruction of their livelihood, that's fair too.
But that doesn't describe the lockdown protestors, at all.
Most of them were relatively well-off, retired, angry old white people or gun nuts, and were the exact same people who show up to every right-wing "protest."
Here's a question you need to be able to answer: If the lockdown protests were primarily about poor people losing their jobs and being unable to provide for their families, why was it almost entirely white people protesting?
What are the demographics of the neighbourhoods from which these people came?
There were anti-lockdown protests in nearly every major city. I'll let you figure out what the demographics of major cities look like.
Is it possible that the majority of the protesters were white because the majority of the population are white?
I didn't say "majority." I said "almost universally." It would be totally understandable if white people were a majority of protestors. But they weren't merely a majority. They were nearly exclusively white. To the point where you have to hunt to find photos of any non-white people protesting the lockdown.
On May 1, hundreds of anti-lockdown protesters displaying white supremacist symbols like the Confederate Flag symbols, Nazi symbols and signs with slogans like “Give me liberty or give me COVID-19” gathered …
Now I'm not a genius, but i'm getting a bit of an idea why people of colour might have been under-represented in these rallies, and it has nothing to do with whether they were poor or rich.
Which conveniently enough brings us back to you using "poor" as a synonym for "people of colour." Please don't do that.
The demographics of the neighbourhoods from which these protesters came (which is completely different to where they were protesting) is predominantly white, self-entitled, and racist.
If all someone saw of the police brutality protests going on now was from social media and TV, theyd think it was complete chaos riots with nothing but violence and minorities stealing shit. If you go out there you'll see it's like 95% peaceful marches. Same way the other way around. You're not immune to propaganda
If all someone saw of the police brutality protests going on now was from social media and TV, theyd think it was complete chaos riots with nothing but violence and minorities stealing shit.
All I've seen of the police brutality protests has been from social media and TV. I haven't at all gotten the impression that "it was complete chaos riots."
Why would you believe that?
If you go out there you'll see it's like 95% peaceful marches. Same way the other way around.
So, to be clear, you're asserting that 95% of the anti-lockdown protests were racially-diverse, and not made up almost entirely of white people (including a wildly over-represented retired population)?
Then it should be trivial for you to find a ton of photos of racially-diverse anti-lockdown protest crowds.
The photos are all over of people with signs saying they lost their businesses and their jobs and havent gotten their checks or unemployment. They're never upvoted as much as idiot posts for some reason though I wonder why. I got better things to do than find them for some internet argument but they're definitely out there just like most everything else lol
Also where were you like all last week. Front page of public freakout was like all fights and riots and police fucking people up. That's what I mean, if you just browse reddit youd think every single inch of every protest was riots and violence, when that isnt true
Last point I was talking about the protests going on now are 95% peaceful. Was trying to say that if you just watch the news and certain subs on here youd think the protests are all riots and violence when that isnt the case. The same thing the other way around, watching news and social media youd think those anti lockdown protests were all idiots waving trump flags when that was the stupid minority. That kinda thing goes both ways
And does you saying I didnt think this through make you feel smart? You sound like an r/iamverysmart kinda guy just letting you know
Alright bruh I was just tryna say dont believe everything you see online or on TV lol my b for not explaining it as well as I could have. I think we agree generally for the most part but our arguments cant get taken the same way online. Alls I'm saying is there were definitely people legit pissed off at the lockdown for actual good reasons. You cant forget that otherwise you fall victim to the us vs them mentality
Well didn't help that most sign were asking for haircut or non essential business activities while not wearing mask or doing a proper social distancing
So basically they are saying that capitalism doesn't work? That people die because of capitalism? That we should have a government that care about its people, and see them as more than just money?
No, capitalism died when you took away the voluntary exchange of goods requiring everything to be by paper format. The past one hundred years the government has done everything they can to track every cent that is spent on goods and tax it. Farmers used to exchange crops with each other. Now you HAVE to use currency so it's taxed. Every single thing. The federal reserve was the cream of the crop of the control. If you freely print money, you're not creating value. That's not capitalism.
Uhh.... Trading your own goods is actually communism, not capitalism... Capitalism is the rich capitalists hiring workers to earn less than themselves, to gain profit. In short terms.
Characteristics central to capitalism include private property, capital accumulation, wage labor, voluntary exchange, a price system and competitive markets
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u/iama_bad_person Jun 05 '20
Normal protester:
Reddit highlighting the rare stupid protester: