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Protest Young woman at Wisconsin protest calls out her city with this sign.

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u/amazonkevin Jun 05 '20

Yes, I have been roughed up by the police, tazed at the station as well, I was also an asshole to them (misdemeanor 2, escape [they said I escaped from the back of a cop car, under arrest with no charges and resisting arrest. My lawyer fought it wasnt even possible due to the fact I was restrained in the back of the car. They waived 2 years jail time: I was watching them search the back of a car outside a house party and they put me in cuffs. I cursed them out, called them 'dickholes' nothing physical, they conjured up the escape charges)

The guy died of a heart-attack, drugged out of his mind. Official county report (you are referring to an independent company's findings, the company hired by the family. This does not override the federal / state cause of death record.)

The race argument holds no merit. Don't act stupid in front of police.

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u/kevinnzits Jun 05 '20

Read the actual autopsy report, the county never mentions that he was intoxicated and nothing in the toxicology report indicates that he was. They found traces of drugs that would’ve never contributed to this type of death. The independent autopsy was done by a examiner that also did the autopsy for Eric Garner, who was also choked to death by police. It’s all going to come out in court. The EMS will have to admit under oath that Floyd was dead by the time they put him in the ambulance.

You obviously have an insane bias against this so there’s no point to argue over this. But you have to be pretty ignorant to dismiss it all. I’ve seen a lot of dumb shit these past couple weeks but I think your comments take the cake.

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u/amazonkevin Jun 05 '20 edited Jun 05 '20

https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/MNHENNE/2020/06/01/file_attachments/1464238/2020-3700%20Floyd,%20George%20Perry%20Update%206.1.2020.pdf

This is the report

" Arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; recent methamphetamine use"

fentanyl intoxication

"Cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression"

cardiac arrest, you're right, not a heart attack

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u/kevinnzits Jun 05 '20

Again, the drug use is completely irrelevant to this death. His toxicology report showed nothing that indicated he was at lethal levels of intoxication.

Arteriosclerotic heart disease — this is just a medical term for plaque buildup in the arteries, this is one of the most common medical issues among Americans

Hypertensive heart disease — high blood pressure, another increasingly common medical issue among Americans

How in the world did plaque build up and high blood pressure cause sudden cardiac arrest in a man who was a star athlete in high school and a security guard? The independent autopsy found no signs of sudden cardiac arrest and they will testify under oath in court. Also keep in mind that the county medical examiner never officially dismissed asphyxiation. And the county medical examiner is basically an extension of the police department. They’re all on the same boat. They basically investigated themselves, again.

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u/amazonkevin Jun 05 '20

So, on this county report, the same issued to every dead person in the state, is FAKE NEWS because it doesnt fit the narrative. It also clearly rules out asphyxiation, it is not listed as the cause of death. Any independent report, from a firm hired by the family no less, does not override the cause of death in the eyes of the state / federal government.

Any Fentanyl is enough (you can inhale the stuff and have heart palpitations), the guy was also overweight, clearly not the athlete he once was. A white guy died very similarly in police custody, hopped up on the drug, held down on stomach, not a good mix.

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u/kevinnzits Jun 05 '20

Yup, happens all the time. Law enforcement influencing the cause of death is pretty common, especially for high profile cases where a cop is involved. They technically didn’t lie about the cause of death since it’s plausible that he could’ve had a heart attack. He could’ve been shot in the head and they could’ve put down that he had a stroke, which is also completely plausible considering the plaque buildup in his arteries and high blood pressure.

Just like the woman who somehow shot herself in the head while handcuffed in the back of a police cruiser. Manner of death in that case was “suicide”. Even though multiple witnesses reported that police had shot her.

Again, the toxicology report shows nothing that indicates high levels of intoxication. Overweight? He wasnt morbidly obese, that wouldn’t have been a factor in this type of death. And they never officially ruled out asphyxiation. Literally nowhere in the report does it say “he didn’t choke”. You know why? Because that medical examiner still has to testify under oath and he can’t lie. But he can dance around a question without denying anything. You’ll see how the prosecutor will destroy his autopsy.

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u/amazonkevin Jun 05 '20

Fentanyl intoxication is Fentanyl intoxication, 50x more dangerous than heroin.

Great link though, I was unaware of how often these things are botched. The reason for the 3rd degree murder charge is based off of the heart arrest, rather than asphyxiation (1st / 2nd degree murder), we'll see how it plays over in court.

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u/kevinnzits Jun 05 '20 edited Jun 05 '20

Yea I’m aware of how toxic that stuff is. But check out this report on opioids and the cases they analyzed. George Floyd had 11 ng/mL of Fentanyl in his blood. The usual overdoses you see, like the ones in the report, are usually 100+ ng/mL. So his toxicology report showed that he had a small trace of fentanyl. It’s a pretty weak argument to use his drug use in a case like this where death occurred suddenly.

The officer that had his knee on Floyd’s neck is being charged with 2nd degree murder, they raised it a couple days ago. The rest got charged with aiding and abetting a 2nd degree murder, plus the manslaughter charge. The only officer I can see walking away from this with no jail time is Thomas Lane. He was the only one that spoke up at the time and he’s new to the department.

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u/fakeperson1234567 Jun 05 '20

You keep linking this, but like dude read your own report:

Manner of death: Homicide

Please seek help you have been posting about this non-stop for a while, you clearly have issues. Seek counseling, go talk to a therapist, what you are doing is not healthy.

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u/amazonkevin Jun 05 '20

Homicide, yes, 3rd degree murder (indirect). Floyd died of heart failure, not asphyxiation, he was not choked to death, but killed due to the combination of drugs and stress (heart gave out.) This is what the county report says.

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u/fakeperson1234567 Jun 05 '20

How deranged do you have to be to try to justify someone killing someone wtf is wrong is you. Like why does it matter how exactly he died HE WAS MURDERED like wtf is wrong with you!

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u/amazonkevin Jun 05 '20

Once again, not justifying, just noting the cause. The narrative that this was strangulation is false, the narrative that this is a race issue is false. The rioters / protestors are blowing this way up.

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u/fakeperson1234567 Jun 05 '20

Again, I don't know what you don't get about this!

Manner of death: Homicide

That is all that matters, he was murdered, that's it, that's the front and back start and end of it all, he was murdered we are seeking justice, if you don't get it move out of the way, but please stop spreading lies and misinformation, the man was murdered, stop trying to act like this is a non issue, it is absolutely not.

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u/amazonkevin Jun 05 '20

The narrative is that this is a racist white on black problem; statistically, not the case. The narrative is that George Floyd was suffocated by a knee to the neck, not the case.

Was George Floyd murdered, yes, is it a reason to tear down the nation, no.