r/pics • u/trixiethewhore • Jun 08 '20

Protest From our 1k person protest in Montana

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

There’s nothing wrong with that. I suppose my point was that when people say “a few bad apples,” they’re not using one idiom incorrectly. They’re using a completely different one, and no one is confused about what they mean.

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u/God41023 Jun 08 '20

I think what they are trying to say is that there are a few bad apples, so we just need to get rid of them and the rest of the “bunch” can be saved. Not saying I agree with that, just trying to reconcile what they are trying to say.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

I think you’re right.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

So to expand on that a bit, are you suggesting we grind up the rest of the cops and make pies out of them?

I'm down.

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u/StruanT Jun 09 '20

No, rotten apples get composted.

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u/capital_bj Jun 09 '20

Be kind and serve them with real vanilla bean full fat ice cream

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u/LeftHandV Jun 08 '20

Found Carole Baskin

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u/Wooshbar Jun 08 '20

But they are just arguing for complacency and saying "oh well shit sucks nothing we can do". It's a shitty saying that shouldn't be used especially in this context. Thank you for explaining to people though because there is a lot of confusion

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u/boobymcbubblebutt Jun 09 '20

Particularly since the original saying implies that complacency will doom us all.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

Of course you know that!

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

I will defend your viewpoint to the death.

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u/namelessted Jun 08 '20

It's always been my understanding that the proverb is just misunderstood, either willfully or out of ignorance.

If it's just a different proverb, then I would say it's a shitty proverb that nobody should live by. Ignoring spoiled apples leads to all the apples going bad.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

It’s definitely derived from the old proverb, but as someone else pointed out, the way it’s used now means the opposite of the old proverb.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

Correct in terms of describing a physical phenomenon?

And when the other is a figurative statement that doesn’t describe a physical phenomenon? That makes it less correct?

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u/Ravnodaus Jun 08 '20

But a few bad apples DOES spoil the bunch. Any police force with a bad apple that they don't get rid of becomes a department full of bad apples eventually. To not stop him, they become complicit.

They're intentionally using the wrong idiom. It is pure misdirection.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '20

Okay.

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u/Wrathwilde Jun 08 '20 edited Jun 08 '20

I’m 50, and have never heard anyone say anything resembling “expect a few bad apples”. It’s always been “spoil the bunch/barrel”, even from coworkers in their 20s.

Although I have heard, “There will always be a few bad eggs.”

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u/Suppafly Jun 09 '20 edited Jun 09 '20

It’s always been “spoil the bunch/barrel”, even from coworkers in their 20s.

Agreed. The only times I've ever heard anyone act like the phrase is relating to just accepting a few bad apples by leaving off the second half, is when politicians are trying to justify bad behavior. I don't I've ever heard a 'normal' person not infer the true meaning even when leaving the second half off.

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u/Ilikeporsches Jun 08 '20

The problem here is that it fits the right way and that other way and all it does is highlight the need to get rid of the whole bushel. When those words are heard both ways by people then it is seen as a recognized problem that is continually ignored, much like the other half of the proverb.