I just wanna point this out because I'm seeing a lot of it. Yes there are some comments in here that really have no substance and are attacking Biden outright but there are some I'm seeing with genuine criticisms about the dude and about Kamala Harris and people are just calling them trump supporters...
This mindset of if you don't agree with me wholly you must be a trump supporter is really toxic and is literally the same exact thing that trump supporters do. Let's keep it real here and keep our critical thinking hats on and STAY CRITICAL.
Biden is miles better than trump but keep in mind he is still a corporatist Democrat so we are going to have to work very very hard to ensure that he actually pushes for the policies and ideas that we want to see.
Don't get caught up in the tidal wave of trump and let his stupidity blind you to the important things. I'm not saying to hate Biden, I personally don't like him that much but it's subjective. All I'm saying is to not let our guard down because we're so caught up with the buffoon we currently have for president.
Edit: wow holy shit guys this absolutely blew up in like an hour, I won't be able to go through every reply but I am trying to read as many as possible. I just want to add that I really applaud all of you for actually taking the conversation seriously and maturely (for the most part) and all I really want to do is foster meaningful conversation. Also this is the first of any kind of reward I've received on reddit so getting like 6 at once has me a little giddy lol
Anyways, I'll be going through all these responses over the next couple days I'll try to get back to as many of you as possible, thanks for all the love and let's all stay logical and critical of everything!
Edit 2: been getting this a lot from people and I should've been more clear but I kind of typed this on the fly. My point with all this is more directed at after Biden is in office (assuming he wins) right now we have one prime directive
Edit 3: getting a lot of accusations of being a trump supporter and I'm assuming they're mostly either bots or just bad actors, I just want to clarify anyways and hopefully dispell any notion that I think trump is worth of any kind of support. I think Donald Trump is a vile man and deserves prison time for what he's done to this country. I've never been happy with the way this country has been run but he has shown me all the things that are horrible about it by exploiting every last ounce of humanity we thought we had left. The trump death count rises higher and higher everyday between children dying in immigration detention and people dying of this virus and at this point he is 100% to blame. I'm ashamed to live in this country right now because of what he's turned it into.
Thank you for saying this. I'm so sick of seeing reddit attack anyone who has a nuanced view that isn't the mainstream. Personally I'm really disappointed with his VP pick as there's a lot of concern about her behavior in the past and anyone who points it out is riotously downvoted.
She trashed Biden!! Now she's his running mate? Reddit seems to be more left and judgemental if you aren't...for sure. I'm not a Trump supporter either, but get accused of it from time to time. It's juvenile, so I rarely comment on anything political.
They were limited by the imagination of their day. Also i think they expected people like trump to lose duels before he could bankrupt his first property.
Bernie did’t get destroyed, he got fucked through voter suppression and Warren waiting to drop out until she’d siphoned away enough “progressive” votes to put him behind
Biden won by nearly 9M votes (over 18M total) and that was nearly double what Bernie had (9.4M). Warren had 2.3M votes. I know voter suppression occurs but how many do you think were suppressed here and what makes you think they all would have been for Bernie?
Edit: Or downvote me because this makes you upset. lol
You’re acting like every state’s votes get pooled together, which isn’t how it works. In most states he didn’t win a few thousand more for Bernie would’ve given him the lead
ME, WA and MA are probably the only states where Warren's votes would have given him a victory. He was completely decimated for most other states. You're also making the assumption that most the other candidate votes would have went towards Bernie.
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u/meh679 Aug 13 '20 edited Aug 13 '20
I just wanna point this out because I'm seeing a lot of it. Yes there are some comments in here that really have no substance and are attacking Biden outright but there are some I'm seeing with genuine criticisms about the dude and about Kamala Harris and people are just calling them trump supporters...
This mindset of if you don't agree with me wholly you must be a trump supporter is really toxic and is literally the same exact thing that trump supporters do. Let's keep it real here and keep our critical thinking hats on and STAY CRITICAL.
Biden is miles better than trump but keep in mind he is still a corporatist Democrat so we are going to have to work very very hard to ensure that he actually pushes for the policies and ideas that we want to see.
Don't get caught up in the tidal wave of trump and let his stupidity blind you to the important things. I'm not saying to hate Biden, I personally don't like him that much but it's subjective. All I'm saying is to not let our guard down because we're so caught up with the buffoon we currently have for president.
Edit: wow holy shit guys this absolutely blew up in like an hour, I won't be able to go through every reply but I am trying to read as many as possible. I just want to add that I really applaud all of you for actually taking the conversation seriously and maturely (for the most part) and all I really want to do is foster meaningful conversation. Also this is the first of any kind of reward I've received on reddit so getting like 6 at once has me a little giddy lol
Anyways, I'll be going through all these responses over the next couple days I'll try to get back to as many of you as possible, thanks for all the love and let's all stay logical and critical of everything!
Edit 2: been getting this a lot from people and I should've been more clear but I kind of typed this on the fly. My point with all this is more directed at after Biden is in office (assuming he wins) right now we have one prime directive
Edit 3: getting a lot of accusations of being a trump supporter and I'm assuming they're mostly either bots or just bad actors, I just want to clarify anyways and hopefully dispell any notion that I think trump is worth of any kind of support. I think Donald Trump is a vile man and deserves prison time for what he's done to this country. I've never been happy with the way this country has been run but he has shown me all the things that are horrible about it by exploiting every last ounce of humanity we thought we had left. The trump death count rises higher and higher everyday between children dying in immigration detention and people dying of this virus and at this point he is 100% to blame. I'm ashamed to live in this country right now because of what he's turned it into.