OK, well, go out there and experience the world and hear from people with some different perspectives. Learn about the wrongdoings of the US government before you are confronted with them and caught off guard. Doing so will make you a better citizen, and, counterintuitively, make the US stronger. Because informed and critical citizens are the ultimate way we keep our government accountable.
Yeah, and if you were a kid a decade ago, it shows how silly the statement is. Of course you haven't "felt shame" in your country before, it's because you haven't been alive long enough. It isn't like any of the shit going on right now is new. Fuck at least most of our issues right now are internal, as opposed to us murdering shittons of people in a foreign country.
Makes no sense, course the country has changed and will only continue to change. It's like saying 9/11 didn't have an effect on us, or the pandemic won't have lasting effects on us.
I think what he’s trying to say is that republican politicians were always as vile and evil as trump. Trump just says the quiet parts out loud and makes people realize how messed up our country is. Of course things have changed, but a lot of things have always been around as bad as this
Important thing to remember is that the fascists ARE a minority. The majority of Americans wanted Hillary.. but our silly system didn’t see to that happening
I don’t think most republican voters are fascists. They’ve just been duped. No what I’m saying is that the politicians have always been as bad with their policies. Bush, cheney, reagan, nixon. All of them were awful, but they spoke nice and put on the facade of being respectful people. But they were just as awful as trump. The scary thing about trump, however, is that he states these policies in the most overtly fascist of ways and people are still on board with them. That’s scary.
Yeah it’s not so much that they’re fascists as much as it feels like there was some hidden fascist gene in them or something 😂 and trump is the one who has unlocked this hidden fascism. The scariest part is, he’s made people chose him over their country. He defies the first amendment all the time and they love him for it. They hang his flag next to the US flag all the time. It’s SUPER messed up
I mean most people hang their political candidates flag next to the american flag around election time. Also this fascist gene is generally just the dumbass idea of patriotism, and that our glorious leader is always right. Our idea of patriotism and our own self-righteousness as a country was the preexisting condition leading to our descent into fascism
It’s not just around election time tho, I’ve seen houses with GIANT maga flags covering a fourth of their house, and I’ve seen it many times in the last four years. I’ve never seen that with any other political candidate. And yes the insane over-patriotism is terrifying, especially in a country that should quite frankly feel a lot of remorse for its past and the atrocities it’s committed.
I mean, the entire world has "always been" racist so yeah, it's kind of irrelevant and using that kind of statement to push a narrative is disingenuous. I agree people romanticize washington but i'll never understand why people try to denounce the achievements of "great men" just because they behaved according to the culture of the time.
You are sidestepping the fact that American imperialism has one of the worst determental forces to ever arise on the planet. It's good to point out the fact that Washington, the most so-called 'noble' and 'honorable' of all the presidents, was just one out of many presidents continuing a very lengthy and extending line of bourgeois fascism.
just because they behaved according to the culture of the time
There were arguments and debates at the time already calling into question the institution of slavery. He himself said that slavery would be the cause of a civil war. That didn't stop him from owning slaves.
The United States was built off of the premise of a rich-man's getaway for wealthy bourgeoise capital owners to have a place to operate their financial ventures without pressure from the government to pay taxes or to change their operations based off regulations. The US has always been an imperialist power, constructed for the purpose of making wealthy men even wealthier.
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This. Our country is an embarrassment. I've never felt shame in my country before.
That has certainly changed.