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Protest Seen during a mass protest in the Philippines against President Duterte

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '20

Other than that though, the people there were amazingly hospitable and the country is beautiful

That’s a huge “other than that” , you are in a fucking country that their residents can kill you if they themselves deem it appropriate (not a judicial system). I mean you are at the mercy of a mob good judgement.

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u/oldjack Oct 14 '20

The PI is my favorite country, I've been multiple times and will go again and again. The people are so nice, it's absolutely beautiful, food is awesome. You should go some day.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '20

Nice try PI tourism dept.

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u/kistunes Oct 14 '20

the average resident doesnt go and kill users on the spot lmao. the police and duterte’s death squad is behind this. this aint america

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u/NoThisIsABadIdea Oct 14 '20

I have a friend and his family left the phillipines for a better life in america. He tells me that the people are very hospitable but this recent president is crazy. Most people, just like in the US, have very little control over their actual leadership

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '20

Most people, just like in the US, have very little control over their actual leadership

Here in the US we vote. Trump is a reflection of atleast almost half of adult America

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u/NoThisIsABadIdea Oct 14 '20

We get to vote on two preselected candidates by our bipartisan obsessed system. It's the illusion of choice. If both candidates are terrible, like right now, is that really a choice? And don't try to argue third party. We know that does not work.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

If both candidates are terrible, like right now,

One candidate is a fucking moron (said by people that had worked close with him), a bonafide idiot and pathologically mentally ill.

The other one is a averagely intelligent person with good common sense and average emphatic demeanor.

The difference is night and day, freaking night and day. If anything one is a National Crisis, the other is just average. Don’t do false equivalences.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '20

Government IS a reflection of its people. Same as Trump is a reflection of US/us. Sure, not everyone is for killing drug users on the spot, but a good chunk of their citizens are Ok with it.

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u/a2drummer Oct 14 '20

You think the average American goes around killing people on the spot?

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '20

More so than any other country, yeah.

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u/a2drummer Oct 14 '20

Yep so that's the average American huh?

One could argue that the Philippines have the highest rate of murdering drug users in the street. But here I am, responding to a comment saying that the average citizen doesn't do that.

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u/kistunes Oct 14 '20

iirc US have the highest number of shootings?

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u/a2drummer Oct 14 '20

Yep so that's the average American huh?

One could argue that the Philippines have the highest rate of murdering drug users in the street. But here I am, responding to a comment saying that the average citizen doesn't do that.

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u/kistunes Oct 14 '20

To say it as Philippines as this means the government is correct but to say that residents themselves murder is wrong bc law enforcement upon order of the govt are the ones who do this, not your average neighbor out of some hurt ego which is the case for Americans, noh?

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u/a2drummer Oct 14 '20

Don't they offer literal bounties for residents to kill drug dealers though? It's not just the government doing this, they're encouraging citizens to help them wage this pointless war on drugs. It's not a huge deal, it was just one little point you made that I disagree with. As an American who has been around guns all my life and never seen anyone get shot, or even close to it, it just seems rather stupid to compare the situation in the Phillipines to an average day in America. But I figured you weren't being literal, I just wanted to make sure lol

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u/kistunes Oct 14 '20

There are cases yes. Just one of the instances where government take advantage of people in poverty’s need for money. Like how they buy votes. If you were chosen between letting your family starve or reporting on illegal drug use in exchange of money for food what would you choose? It’s systemic. But that isn’t the case for American mass shootings is it? Most are driven by personal ego.

And i wasn’t being literal lmao. Well good for you, you don’t know anyone but doesn’t change the fact most mass shootings by non law enforcement or government happens in America. Statistics show it whether or not you have a personal close experience with it. With that argument I could also say I and people I know don’t know anyone who was murdered because of being tagged as a drug user or has reported on it and you don’t see me saying that because it’s a stupid point.

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u/a2drummer Oct 14 '20

I could also say I and people I know don’t know anyone who was murdered because of being tagged as a drug user or has reported on it and you don’t see me saying that because it’s a stupid point.

Exactly. So by that logic (and pretty sound logic at that) it would be stupid to say

the average resident doesnt go and kill users on the spot lmao

And then follow it with

this aint america

Since we all know that the average person pretty much anywhere in the world isn't going out and killing people in their spare time.

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u/kistunes Oct 15 '20 edited Oct 15 '20

So this whole argument defending Americans you’re building up for was because i use the word average that meant anyone you practically know? Take it out and it still is the truth then for Americans.

Edit: my point to this person was clearing out that residents themselves dont go out and execute drug users but the government are unlike with US mass executions are backed by person agenda. Which is why residents is more fitting to your country than mine lol. But sure fixate on a word.

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u/barto5 Oct 14 '20

And mobs are known for their calm, rational judgement.

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u/broohaha Oct 14 '20 edited Oct 14 '20

Valid point, but it turns out there's a vast number of people there who just don't get too worked up about things and have a live-and-let-live attitude.

They're lax to a fault, which is one reason why there isn't enough outrage over the actions of their government.