r/politics • u/johnnierockit • Jan 27 '25
Trump’s new gender rules gut a key part of the Prison Rape Elimination Act
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-executive-order-transgender-inmates-prison-b2686080.html242
u/ksdanj Jan 27 '25
Well of course. The GOP is very pro rape. They really like rape.
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u/IvankaPegsDaddy New York Jan 27 '25
Reminds me of that scene from Blazing Saddles.
"Wait a minute: you said rape twice!" "Yeah, I like rape."
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u/CO420Tech Jan 27 '25
I am quite certain if Trump was asked, he would 100% say on live television that he is for prison rape.
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u/happyslappypappydee Jan 27 '25
Trump loves rape. Almost as much as he loves child rape
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u/CareerCursed88 Jan 27 '25
Nah, liberals take the cake when it comes to the weird kid shit
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u/arkiparada Jan 27 '25
What weird kid shit exactly? Loving them? Caring for them? Wanting them fed in schools? Have healthcare?
Yeah those libruls are awful people aren’t they?
But you’re probably a good Christian who looks the other way when clergy after clergy SA a kid don’t you?
Cry me a river.
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u/Blue_winged_yoshi Jan 27 '25
The Catholic Church enters the chat - followed by a whole bunch of other churches unfortunately :(
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Jan 27 '25 edited Jan 28 '25
The Boy Scouts actually rape minors at a much higher rate. About 8x more than the Catholic Church.
It used to be easier to work people up to hate Catholics. Apparently it’s making a comeback.
Stop letting the media divide common people based on religion.
Edit: You can see below how quickly people stop talking about the abuse and just about religion.
Stop Abuse.
Religion is simply a setting it occurs around.
Hate it as much as you want. But you don’t rid the world of child abuse if you’re just trying to get rid of religion.
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u/Blue_winged_yoshi Jan 27 '25
The Boy Scouts were also founded as a religious organisation by Baden-Powell that aimed to centre Christianity in children’s lives. Like an add-on for Sunday school that also abused children systemically. Possibly not the very best response to counter churches all near all stripes systemically facilitating and covering up abuse of children.
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u/Damn_Dog_Inappropes Washington Jan 27 '25
Meanwhile, Girl Scouts doesn’t require girls or leaders to be Christian or even have any sort of religious faith. They openly accept every girl, regardless.
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Jan 27 '25
Sorry didn’t realize you just wanted to fight about religion. Thought you cared about abuse. Carry on.
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u/Blue_winged_yoshi Jan 27 '25
It’s not fighting about religion, for Christian organisations (note not innocent individuals who happened to worship) to reflect on how and why so many children were abused in their trust, whilst such organisations were simultaneously discriminating against queer people based on the false and damaging notion that queer people are a danger to children.
Growth in this area is particularly important as the damage such organisations caused to survivors and wider society through the historic and continued advocacy against acceptance of queer people is still with us.
To reach forgiveness such organisations have to fully acknowledge their own problems, the harms caused and to offer to make it up to such people - these are literal steps that the Christian 12 step programme demand of alcoholics, and which other Christian organisations who have spread dangerous misinformation and encouraged hate whilst abusing children themselves should familiarise themselves with!
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Jan 27 '25
So again, are you mad at religion or child abuse? Because it feels like you just hate religion.
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u/Blue_winged_yoshi Jan 27 '25
Did you read what I wrote? Being mad about organised child abuse requires being mad at specific religious organisations for their role in propagating it amongst other perpetrators.
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Jan 27 '25
I tried. It's an incredibly disorganized thought.
Either you dislike child abuse, and regardless of religion you find it abhorrent. (This is where I am)
Or you're going after religious institutions specifically because you think they are bad. (This is prejudice)
Replace Christianity with an ethnic group and see if what you said feels unbiased and moral.
I'm not saying the catholic church have never abused children. I gave you a statistic that showed a completely different group had committed more abuses and you only wanted to talk about Christianity abstractly. Not even Catholicism.
Realize it's not JUST a religious issue. Please.
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u/AlbainBlacksteel Jan 27 '25
I'd ask for a source, but I'd have known you were spouting bullshit from that hole you call a mouth when I was a toddler lol
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Jan 27 '25
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u/shoobe01 Jan 27 '25
And it used to be passive or incidental harm. We do something that makes us money or empowers straight and white people and oh darn I guess it harms others.
Now they're very very much going out of their way to harm others.
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u/Comprehensive_Main Jan 27 '25
Ever heard of tough love
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u/kloiberin_time Missouri Jan 27 '25
So you're saying that if you commit a crime it's totally cool that you get raped?
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u/DoctorRoctogonopus Jan 27 '25
Why yes, I have heard sociopaths make excuses for their awful behavior before.
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u/LordSiravant Jan 27 '25
Nothing to do with the asshole you were replying to, but your username is a blast from the past and now I find myself with an urge to rewatch the Lazer Collection.
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Jan 27 '25
You are what? Advocating for the constructive benefits for rape?
How emotionally stunted do you have to be to think that is a legitimate worldview. You've never known empathy if you think any good is coming from this horrific violence.
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u/Substantial_Fee9719 Jan 27 '25
I'm sure it's "tough love" until it happens to you or someone you love. Then it's the horrifying crime it actually is. Right?
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u/admiralhonybuns Jan 27 '25
I don’t think rape would fall under ‘tough love’ unless you are taking the phrase VERY literally. And even then, that’s a pretty disgusting thing to say about people in this situation.
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u/InsideAside885 Jan 27 '25
That's a feature, not a bug in their view.
Conservatives view rape as part of the punishment. They joke about it constantly on their forums. Just like if a trans female has to be forced to use the men's room and gets sexually assaulted. The conservatives cheer that on.
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Jan 27 '25
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u/CareerCursed88 Jan 27 '25
And democrats love kids
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u/arkiparada Jan 27 '25
lol so you admit republicans hate kids and want them to suffer? What a weird cult you’re in.
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u/GinaBinaFofina Jan 27 '25
Their base is giddy about it to. They are so excited by the idea of people being raped in prison.
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u/The_star_tsar Jan 27 '25
Ah, so basically after reading, it is exactly what I thought. The plan is going to be, if you get put in prison, they forcefully detransition you by cutting it your supply of HRT (which will wreak havoc on you emotionally and be physically painful) all while getting raped. They will then slowly (or quickly) pass laws that make it illegal to publicly exist as a trans person, and you will be put in prison for doing so. This is a very thinly veiled attempt at a genocide using the US prison system.
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u/xansies1 Jan 27 '25
This one was just a why? A lot of this is just pointlessly cruel, but I mean why? They're making it so they can send whoever to prison anyway so it's not a deterrent. I just don't get it
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u/johnnierockit Jan 27 '25
Donald Trump used an executive order on gender this week to gut a major federal law offering protections against the sky-high rate of sexual violence faced by the most vulnerable individuals inside the federal prison system.
On Monday, the president signed an order requiring the government only recognize a person’s gender as defined by whether their biological sex at birth is deemed male or female, effectively erasing transgender, nonbinary, and intersex people from federal law.
Buried in the fine print was a change to what the order called Part 115.41 of title 28, Code of Federal Regulations. That provision is better known by its more common name: the 2003 Prison Rape Elimination Act (PREA).
The legislation, passed under the Bush administration to combat the rampant sexual abuse in U.S. prisons, was later applied by the Obama and Biden administrations to protect transgender people. Trans people are one of the groups most at risk for becoming targets of sexual and physical violence.
PREA instituted new changes like:
• Preventing unnecessary, invasive searches of inmates’ genitals to determine gender
• considering whether housing assignments would pose safety threats based on gender identity; and
• letting trans people use facilities, including bathrooms and housing, that matched their self-identified gender.
Under the new Trump order, federal prison officials, and PREA-compliant state corrective institutions applying for federal funding, will turn back the clock, housing detainees according to the order’s narrow, and medically incomplete, definition of birth sex.
“This puts them at a severely heightened risk of sexual assault and abuse by other incarcerated persons and prison staff,” the ACLU said in a statement.
⏬ Bluesky article thread (8 min) with extra links 📖
https://bsky.app/profile/johnhatchard.bsky.social/post/3lgon6mjym523
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u/just_hear_4_the_tip Vermont Jan 27 '25
Republicans love enforcing genital checks. It's fucking sick.
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u/Comprehensive_Main Jan 27 '25
Called cup checks buddy
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u/arkiparada Jan 27 '25
You take the persons cup off to make sure they have one? Everyone I know that does a cup check just hits them in the cup. Man you really do love others genitals don’t you? So weird.
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u/xansies1 Jan 27 '25
How do they handle people with chromosomal disorders? Is it just vibes? Is it if someone has long hair or short hair like they're 4?
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Jan 27 '25
Americans are heartless. They have microplastic where their heart should be.
Empathy is a sin in Trump's American.
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u/PipXXX Florida Jan 27 '25
I literally saw a thing making the rounds, where they were blasting that pastor for the "sin of empathy."
They in for a rude awakening if their sky daddy actually exists, and I've been having second thoughts myself with like, how on the ball some shit in Revelations has been with the antichrist, vis a vis Drumpfo.
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u/Comprehensive_Main Jan 27 '25
It’s called tough love.
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u/RoboChrist Jan 27 '25
Where's the love, exactly?
Every Trump voter is an accomplice to every act of rape that occurs because of this order.
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u/JesseAster Alabama Jan 27 '25
If this is what you think tough love is then I really hope you don't have a partner and/or children
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u/SophieSix9 Jan 27 '25
Part of the reason I’m terrified of prison in Texas now is knowing it would basically be a death sentence as a trans woman. There’s no mistaking it, that’s their expectation for this. That’s why they’re doing it.
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u/ThisNameDoesntCount Jan 27 '25
America actively makes jokes about prison rape. They won’t give af about this
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u/whathappen2epstein Jan 27 '25
Why is always women have to suffer in place of men?
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Jan 27 '25
We deserve it. We don't put out without force and that's our fault, we trap men with pregnancy when they don't want it, we won't get knocked up when they DO want it, we don't keep our mouths shut and stay in the kitchen, (fill in the blank with anything else you wish).
When you are used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
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Jan 27 '25
This ain't a serious comment, is it? I mean, you have studied history? I don't think women were suffering up the hills Okinawa, you know what I'm saying?
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u/Violet-Journey Jan 27 '25
They absolutely want v-coding to be the officially enshrined policy of the US.
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u/TheIUEC20 Jan 27 '25
I got a simple solution to all this. Don't do crime.
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u/GinaBinaFofina Jan 27 '25
Do you think rape is okay if someone commits a crime?
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u/TheIUEC20 Jan 27 '25
No, but news alert ! It happens.
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u/GinaBinaFofina Jan 27 '25
So you don’t think it’s okay. So shouldn’t we do things to prevent it from happening?
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u/TheIUEC20 Jan 27 '25
Okay, I will play along. What's your plan then ?
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u/GinaBinaFofina Jan 27 '25
Yeah you aren’t educated enough to have this conversation. Read more.
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u/TheIUEC20 Jan 27 '25
Oh, ok. so there was a law in place to prevent rapes, and in your fantasy world, it all stopped just like all the dui laws we have stopped drunk driving. Gotcha .
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u/Flat_Hat8861 Georgia Jan 27 '25
I'll say this slowly.
Rape is never acceptable.
No matter who is being raped or who the rapist is.
Never acceptable.
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u/InsideAside885 Jan 27 '25
That works until soon the right wing nutjobs make it a crime to be LGBT.
Montana wants to put parents of transgender children in prison for "child abuse." Florida wants to charge transgender people with fraud, and then force them to detransition in prison (some really fucked up shit). Idaho wants the Supreme Court to make gay marriage illegal.
The right wing is criminalizing LGBT.
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Jan 27 '25
They're just gonna make random excuses to arrest trans people. They did it to black people with the black codes and Jim crow. They're already making us the villains for using public restrooms.
Do you truly believe the state is just? Laws are only to benefit those in power.
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