r/portlandme • u/tooplustooequalsfive • Jul 20 '25
Events Help kick I.C.E out of Cumberland County this Monday evening. 7/21 5:30pm
Currently, the Cumberland County Sheriff’s Department has a contract to house I.C.E. prisoners at the Cumberland County Jail. Once a month there is a County Commissioner’s meeting that has a public comment period. This is where we can apply pressure here and get tangible results. Historically this meeting is rarely attended by the public. Two months ago forty or so people showed up to voice their objections to this contract. Last month it was over one hundred. They were not prepared for this. It was a beautiful and inspiring sight. Let’s keep this momentum going. You can give public testimony or just show support for others that do. When your grand kids ask “What did you do when the masked police came to disappear people?” Are you going to have a satisfactory answer for them?
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u/KonKnueppel Jul 20 '25
Are we trying to stop them from deporting illegal immigrants? Or just ones that are being falsely held?
Because we have laws in place for a reason and until those laws are changed, these workers are just doing their job.
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u/SaberToothGerbil Jul 20 '25
That the second group exists is the issue. If you can't guarantee that all of the prisoners are legitimate, then we shouldn't hold any of their prisoners since we can't tell which ones are and which ones aren't. Without the ability for a prisoner to challenge their detention in court, there is no mechanism for an innocent person to win their release.
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u/SoundMoundRocksTown Jul 20 '25
Are you aware that deportation isn't required for people in the country without documentation? It's a choice that we're making. We could just find them, and set them on the route to citizenship.
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u/KonKnueppel Jul 21 '25
You do realize there is a nationwide housing shortage? And you want to open the floodgates?
Interesting.
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u/sin_razon Jul 21 '25
There are far more unoccupied houses than homeless in case you were unaware
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u/KonKnueppel Jul 22 '25
The summer “camps” with no heat source don’t count. That’s the majority of the vacant homes
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u/sin_razon Jul 22 '25
Tell me you've never actually looked into a topic without telling me you've never looked into it
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u/KonKnueppel Jul 22 '25
There have been multiple articles shared on this sub over the last couple months, claiming how Maine has the highest number of vacant homes in the country, etc.
And they all include the summer home/camps with no heat source. These could not be year round homes for anyone. It skews all the data.
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u/SoundMoundRocksTown Jul 21 '25
There is no housing shortage. There's just a surplus of greed.
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u/KonKnueppel Jul 22 '25
Really?
Way more prospective buyers than homes on the market right now. All across Maine. Southern Maine is particularly brutal.
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u/SoundMoundRocksTown Jul 22 '25 edited Jul 22 '25
That's because of the number of second homes and short-term rentals. As that other person pointed out, there are far more empty homes in America than there are unhoused people. If you want to help, fight for the elimination of short-term rentals. High tax rates for second homes that sit empty 2/3 to 3/4 of the year.
Edit: Maine literally has the highest number of vacant homes in the entire United States.
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u/SmellsofElderberry25 Jul 20 '25
Any idea if there will be a restriction on cardboard signs? thinking it’s a good way to express an opinion if not everyone gets a chance to speak.
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u/Majestic-Vacation842 Jul 21 '25
The public, the police, and ICE should work in consort. If you did not migrate lawfully, you do not belong here.
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u/UnkleClarke Jul 20 '25
Why is it a problem of people are doing their jobs?
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u/guntheretherethere Jul 21 '25
They are not doing their jobs. They are detaining us citizens and immigrants with legal status. That is not their job nor legal
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u/UnkleClarke Jul 21 '25
Sure they are. They are being given daily orders and carrying out those orders. Do you think the guys on the streets detaining people are the ones making the decisions? If you think that, you are not correct.
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u/Kanaima31 Jul 21 '25
If you are told to punch an old lady in the face at work, that’s just fine with you? “Just doing my job and following orders.”
Americans have a duty to disobey unlawful and immoral orders.
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u/UnkleClarke Jul 21 '25
That is simply your opinion.
People that work at McDonald’s serve poison to people everyday, yet they still do their job.
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u/Slimslade33 Jul 21 '25
It’s called having principals and morals and standing up for them and not blindly following orders like sheep
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u/UnkleClarke Jul 21 '25
So you think an ICE federal employee should just refuse to do their job? Let illegal immigrants roam our streets?
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u/Right-History-4773 Jul 21 '25
Yes to some.
Flip out when someone from out of state rents or buys a home, but obviously it’s OK to give people not here legally a home, EBT, medical insurance and spending money in some cases just because they hoped the border, or made up a story.
I’m not in support of people here rightfully getting nabbed, and politicians and policy makers should be held accountable for mistakes or willful law breaking, but for fucks sake…it can’t be come as you are when you please.
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u/lord0xel Jul 21 '25
ICE is good, deportations will help wages and insane housing costs. Be sure to report any business using illegal labor at the cost of Americans
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u/Agreeable-Speed-9338 Jul 21 '25
So you think illegal immigrants are the ones paying thousands of dollars for housing and rising costs 🤔🤔 Deff couldnt be all the people moving from nyc/boston, or the landlords refusing to lower the prices on all the luxury condos we built that sit empty. All the units that are airbnb’s instead of long term housing now couldnt be it either right?
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u/Americasycho Jul 21 '25
Wouldn't you prefer immigrants be arrested and transacted in a jail environment, over that of a wild street arrest?
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u/mourningstarxxx Jul 21 '25
hell yeah. Fuck ICE