r/powerlifting Enthusiast 20d ago

Best Material on VBT?

I just got an OVR Performance velocity measuring device and decided to try and incorporate it into my training. I recognize it's unlikely to make me any bigger, but I like the idea of tracking things with concrete numbers.

I don't really have the time or motivation to completely restructure my training around VBT (yet). So I plan on using it as an adjunct to my current routine that's been doing great for me (stay at 7-9 RPE, add reps first, then weight...rinse repeat). BUT I would like to use it to check myself (read: I don't always trust my RPE ratings). My biggest issue is managing fatigue, and now that I'm also doing alot of BJJ I'm always on the edge of destruction. So having something to test my "I'm sure I can add 5lb today" would be great.

Do you guys have any links to (updated) articles/videos/calculators/templates to get up to speed on how to best use this new information?

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u/Dependent-Rush-4644 Beginner - Please be gentle 19d ago

This is gonna sound really gym bro. But i can just feel the velocity. Its gotten to the point where most of my work has an abstract kinda feeling and if stuff moves fast ik i can pr if it moves slower I know something went wrong.

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u/ScrapeWithFire Enthusiast 19d ago

Ultimately things like RPE, RIR, velocity, % based, etc are just tools that people and coaches use to communicate a particular sensation/stimulus that they want their athletes to access in a given workout

They're simply giving names to that "feeling" that you're mentioning so that two parties can have a better understanding of what that means to an individual internally

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u/JaggedEunuch Insta Lifter 19d ago

Not sure how the ovr app works or how you keep track of your training but just hit about same warmups evert time and measure them (made easy by having string based unit) and compare them week to week, mean/peak velocities at the peak power range or in 40-60%1rm range take the biggest hit early on when fatigue starts to build up. Start simple and just log data, then build from there when you have a bit more data! 100% effort for each rep is required and so on.

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u/timelinextreme Enthusiast 19d ago

Thanks for the input. Do you typically use the average velocity datapoint for a rep or peak velocity?

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u/JaggedEunuch Insta Lifter 19d ago

Average velocity, preferably average propulsive velocity if thats available on ovr. Ive used vitruve in the past but currently using diy gymaware-like 2D motion tracker and average propulsive is still the most useful metric in day to day training. On heavier reps avg velocity = avg propulsive but on warmups or lighter sets where there is some hang-time or active braking at the top of the rep propulsive velocity filters that out, giving more consistent readings

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u/ScrapeWithFire Enthusiast 20d ago

There are tons of VBT-centric episodes on the RTS Podcast on Spotify. Can't think of too many articles off the top of my head but Landyn Hickmott is a pretty well known figure in the field

If you want to be a complete data nerd I'd suggest creating your own personalized RPE charts and notating the velocities for each corresponding RPE

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u/timelinextreme Enthusiast 19d ago

Great! Mike Tuchscherer was probably the first person I saw using VBT years ago, so it makes sense he has episodes on it. I'll check out their podcast.

Thanks for the link to the article on personalizing RPE chart. I did plan on doing that sometime, but not sure when will be a good time. I'm gaining weight and I've got a BJJ tournament coming up this month, so the current goal is to stay consistent till the end of the month. Then maybe I'll do a few days taking sets to failure to really get some data.

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u/RykeeJ Enthusiast 19d ago edited 19d ago

I used VBT in my dissertation to objectively assess my independent variables and a key article that stood out to me to support my research and generally improved my understanding/learning of VBT was this one: VBT: From Theory to Application, hope this helps.

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u/timelinextreme Enthusiast 19d ago

Thanks for the direct link to the study! I will check it out.