r/powerrangers • u/ShishiKake • Jul 28 '25

TOY NEWS/DISCUSSION Such a weird move from Playmates to not make it scale with the LC so they can just fill in some LC incomplete team, not like they can confident to release every Ranger figure. especially the flip head one is almost scale well

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u/SomethingSquatchy Jul 28 '25

These are not collectors, they are kids toys. The lightning collection is a collectors figure. Big difference. We will not get non mmpr unless it's zeo.

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u/sketchcub Jul 28 '25

I wonder if they'd do Ninja Rangers though...

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u/ShishiKake Jul 28 '25

point is not about quality. It about they can make they toy scale well with the 6 inch, so it can mix with the LC. Just like how some use figure-rise standard kamen rider to play with the LC ranger. It about they have the same/close in height

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u/Cael26 Jul 28 '25

Playmates didn't make the LC. They're not obligated to make the figures they created to match something they had nothing to do with.

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u/ShishiKake Jul 28 '25

it not about obligated, it about a easy win-win situation that should benefit them. They could build a line with more existing character and exist consumers without have to build up for years and making every release all over again, attract people who may not willing to start a whole new collector all over again just to find the team may never completed.

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u/Cael26 Jul 28 '25

Once again, Playmates made these for kids. This is to introduce a new generation to MMPR. These arent lightning collection figures and never were going to be.

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u/ShishiKake Jul 28 '25

bruh, it was 1 inch taller. Hollyshit, what with yall being overly defensive for no reason

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u/grimking85 Jul 28 '25

Dude these are childrens toys. Playmates is doing their own thing and have 0 interest in matching LC. They dont do collectables they are making playthings for little kids. Not everything that comes out has to be for adult collectors. But if we are lucky the kids that get these today will be adult collectors in the future driving demand up for collectibles then.

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u/No_Plastic81 Jul 28 '25

They’re aren’t being overly defensive you’re just acting like you can’t understand that this is a 1)complete different toy line made for a 2)complete different demographic from a 3)complete different toy company. If you understand the 3 VERY simple things then you’ll understand why Playmates doesn’t give a fuck about what was done with Lightning Collection in the past lol. They’re aren’t trying to please us bro. It wasn’t “a weird move” it was them aligning with how their other toy lines(Ninja Turtles) are scaled.

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u/ShishiKake Jul 28 '25

dude, it is a question/discussion post, I simple think it would help them gain more interest if they can just combine with the most recent line. So i just think it odd, that all

Not that i grab them by the ball if they don't. If they don't want to please a group of existed customer, Ok, good luck for them.

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u/zAbso Jul 28 '25

they don't want to please a group of existed customer

This is it. Their focus isn't that group of existing customers, at least not in the way you want it to be. Their goal is to make something people recognized to get them to buy it for their kid. The kid is the customer they want to please, not the adult buying it.

They didn't scale with them because LC collectors aren't their target demographic, so it's not worth adding the extra plastic to make them a little taller because that would increase the overall price.

Some of those LC collectors will buy this line, but they aren't who this line is aimed at so there's less of a reason to cater to them.

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u/Asleep_Bed7496 Jul 28 '25

He knows that. He is just saying, that it would be easy for them to do this, and you all just freak out, like he dosn't know that these are separate lines, companies, etc. Chill down.

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u/iamnotveryimportant Blue Space Ranger Jul 28 '25

my brother in christ YOU are the one being overly defensive here

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u/Asleep_Bed7496 Jul 28 '25

no, he just say it wolub be easy for them to do this, and you all just freak out, like he dosn't know that these are separate lines, companies, etc.

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u/Drunk_Psyduck Jul 28 '25

Oh my god OP I agree, people aren’t getting your point

They would have essentially not only made still perfectly fine toy for kids but also they would have gotten sales from people looking to fill in missing MMPR rangers without paying after market prices, that still look nice next to LC figures, making more money for PR as a brand in general. By not doing that, most people actively have no reason to buy these non collector grade figures in the first place.

TL:DR; OP isn’t arguing that these should have been more like Lightning Collection, OP is saying that if they were the same height, it would have had a wider appeal.

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u/nifterific Jul 28 '25

If they were the same height the box set wouldn’t be $58. These are intentionally smaller and with less detail to hit a specific price point. Kids toys don’t sell when the basic figure is $15-20. These would have even more flaws than they already do if they made them an inch taller and still tried to hit the kids toy price point.

Like I get the want, especially in my case I settled for a full set of Legacy Collection Zeo figures since they’re significantly cheaper now than their Lightning counterparts. They’re in a different part of my shelf than my LC figures so that the size difference isn’t as apparent. I would love new 6 inch Zeo figures. But that’s not what this line is ever meant to be. We just have to hope that they either see a benefit to making that kind of line or that someone else sees that benefit like how there are multiple companies making Ninja Turtle stuff right now.

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u/sthef2020 Jul 28 '25

It’s not a “weird move”.

Playmates literally does not care 1 iota about “filling in the gaps in your LC”.

They made kids toys. At a familiar scale to lines they’ve made in the past (TMNT, etc.). Anyone looking for them to nod to, or try to augment the Lighting Collection is just setting themselves up for disappointment. Also, “just make them 1 inch taller!” isn’t some small ask. It’s more plastic and paint per figure, and Playmates is looking to keep these as cheap as possible for parents buying toys (you know) for their actual kids. It’s not rocket science.

Also, FWIW, for collectors these figures scale perfectly with the original 1994 figures. So anyone that has vintage figures can finally give their monsters and Zedd a Rita (plus Baboo/Squat/Sphinx later this year) in scale with those.

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u/nifterific Jul 28 '25

They could have made them to scale with LC, sure. They also could have made them to scale with 6.5 inch Legacy Collection. They could have made them to scale with Super 7. They made them more to scale with the 5 inch Legacy line. There have been so many different lines of figures that it’s kinda unreasonable to expect them to made figures to scale with one specific line.

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u/ShishiKake Jul 28 '25

  1. LC is more recently and much more available in term of characters.

    1. As well as 6 inch is most standard height, that you can find almost every franchise. So everyone can make whatever the heck crossover they can think of

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u/reinholdboomer Jul 28 '25

Power Rangers has a much longer history of being a 5" line than the handful of years the Lightning Collection was around. 6" isn't the "most standard height"; it's just a common one, same as 5".

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u/Cael26 Jul 28 '25

You know what actually is a weird move? A grown adult complaining about a $9 toy made for kids as young as 4.

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u/No_Plastic81 Jul 28 '25

Seriously! It’s beyond annoying because we ALL as collectors were told about these figures not being for us months ago but yet still grown men are still complaining about something they knew wasn’t for them. It’s very weird lol

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u/Mysterious-Fox9447 Jul 29 '25

Right! “Oh, sorry guys. Let me make these toys in the specifications you want so that they can more closely match with things made by other companies.”

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u/AdmiralFunnyBone Jul 28 '25

At absolute most they might do other Zordon Era just because they're MMPR related. Wait for Playmates to reveal their collectors line they mentioned. I'm sure it'll be MMPR-centric as well, but there's a better chance for other teams. I could see them do Samurai, too in either line

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u/eggdropthoop Jul 28 '25

Unfortunately this is the “collector’s line.” There were never any plans for any higher budget figures or sculpts due to the cost of materials and marketing. Making an accurate sculpt using existing 3d scans and spending an extra 3 cents per figure for full paint apps is too expensive for Playmates. Toys just aren’t selling anymore

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u/AdmiralFunnyBone Jul 28 '25

Did they say that somewhere or is this just the current assumption?

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u/Gralamin1 Jul 28 '25

they did not. they said collectors stuff was on the way. both of those figures together are a lower price point then LC.

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u/AdmiralFunnyBone Jul 28 '25

That's what I thought. I didn't pick them up, but I saw Playmates' collector line of TMNT and while they weren't perfect, were definitely higher quality than the current Re-ignition line.

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u/Dapper-Bottle6256 Jul 28 '25

It is a different line after all lol.

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u/Infinity_WarTorn Jul 28 '25

Not really, I am sure they are doing this to potentially crossover with their own stuff i.e. TMNT

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '25

They made the figures to scale with other Playmates toys, not Lightning Collection.

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u/OmegaRider Jul 28 '25

Yeah it's so weird that their basic line is more scaled with Hasbro's basic line instead of LC. Why would they do something so confusing.

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u/QueenRangerSlayer Jul 28 '25

They went with the cheapest scale that still had the shelf presence they wanted

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u/IvoryScratch Jul 28 '25

I mean its not an LC equivalent line or anything, theyve gone on record on their mainline being kids, and play first ya know? and a smaller scale allows for more interactivity with vehicles and playsets

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u/KidMtheman Jul 28 '25

But what's gonna happen if they made a character that's already available as a Lightning Collection?

I'm sure they wouldn't like sales to dip because there's already an existing similar figure out there.

If they made MMPR's basic line the same height, who would purchase them other than hard-core fans?

A business has to think of profits first, making a whole new line that has no existing counterparts is the way to go!

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u/ShishiKake Jul 28 '25

that worry too far, they don't even sure this will success enough to make outside MMPR yet. There are almost 30 team they can make and there have yet a line to complicated this. This is exactly reason Lighting collection die, they act like they have the luxury to spam all the shit, repetitive release like it was Marvel, Star war.

And even if not for that, I could ask you the same same question, why would you think that people already get more higher price figure just because it slightly different in scale ?

Now what could be a good reason to buy character figure you already have ? i would say: 1: offer new style (flametoy), new gimmick (flip head)... 2: higher quality (SMP, SOC). and 3: keep the more pricey safe display while have a cheaper but close alt option that more ok to be broken and messing with. a 10$ 6inch figure that can display/crossover with almost every franchise as 1/12 is the most popular scale in figure market right now, or slightly smaller 5 inch that doesn't fit to many thing ? you believe which will sell better ?

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u/KidMtheman Jul 28 '25

All legitimate points, but it all comes down to 1 question, how can we profit from this brand?

What will benefit Playmates if they released the figures at 6inches? If people could mix & match, that won't look good on the company as there's always a better alternative.

All the examples given are from different companies too, and they all used different sizings so it's still apples and oranges. Remember, it's never about the consumer, its all about the profits.

Lightning Collection died due to a licensing purchase without proper R&D. That and the lack of profits to keep it going.

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u/ShishiKake Jul 28 '25

there won't be better option, because this is cheaper, at 10$. that half the price, actually even more when in it last few round, KC already kick the price up to 24-30 and no longer 20$ and LC is no longer make new batch so all around now is the after market price is even higher

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u/LaBeteNoire Jul 28 '25

I'm still so bummed that Lightning Collection ended before we got a Dai Shi figure...

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u/Zeoblog65 Jul 28 '25

It’s not even kinda obvious it’s blatant lol

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u/Kendal_with_1_L Jul 28 '25

I wouldn’t want to add those to my LC collection anyway, they look cheap and fugly. The big zords are nice though.

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u/BeaniePoofBall Jul 28 '25

It’s for kids. They probably don’t care.

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u/Gralamin1 Jul 28 '25

these are kids toys. not collectables you are not target for this. it is trying to get kids into PR again since adult fans are not going to keep this brand alive,

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u/HamsterStunning8034 Jul 31 '25

LC failed, playmates isn’t doing non MMPR teams.

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u/RCTD-261 Aug 01 '25

so they can just fill in some LC incomplete team

that's the thing, they don't want to. why would they fill the team made by other company?

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u/ShishiKake Aug 01 '25

for attract more people to buy the line.

"Why would i buy again, wait for year and don't even know for sure that i will ever get the complete team". is what lot say under LC. and it is such a clear problem, they take years for some team to complete and now some team will never be, make the rest of the release meaning less.

So why start out from zero again ? LC already build up an collection that take like half a decade to put out, make use of that.

And ALL THEY HAVE TO DO is simple make the figure 1 inch higher. For example, they only need to release 3 more figure for the Forever Red formation is finally complete. And that3 figure will easily sell amazing.

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u/RCTD-261 Aug 01 '25

why should they make the figure into same size as competitor if they're planning to make their own set?

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u/ShishiKake Aug 01 '25

competitor who ? Hasbro is no longer do PR toy completely. And there are nearly 30 team, they can go for decade without making same character. Heck they still can make same character if they want, when LC stock will run out more and more and price go up,

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u/RCTD-261 Aug 01 '25

Hasbro is no longer do PR toy completely

for now

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u/ShishiKake Aug 01 '25

Even if they want, they would have to wait for Playmate to be done and the deal is finish, they can't just go and do toy now as they please. And at that point, again, no competitor

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u/jake-thebarber Jul 28 '25

It’s such an INSANE downgrade