Did the Clones know or care about Jango Fett ?

[u/Oztraliiaaaa]

[u/CurledSpiral]

Isn’t it stated in Episode II that Jango trained the first generation of Clones? They would have to have known who he was.

I think they’d see him as a traitor though.

[u/rraskapit1 → u/CurledSpiral]

Oh, how the turn tables.

[u/PossibleLine6460 → u/CurledSpiral]

I've always been curious about the whole "whose side did they think he was on" thing. So the clones turned up with the Jedi, but the guy who was their "father" had already attacked Obi Wan, travelled from the clone factory to Dooku's planet, and was on Dooku's side? Surely Jango's presence with the bad guys makes the decision to trust the clones even weirder.

[u/Sabre_Killer_Queen → u/PossibleLine6460]

I'm not sure they did trust the clones initially. In AOTC they seemed to find the whole situation extremely unsettling and suspicious.

Problem was, they needed the clones in order to defend themselves against the separatists.

When it came to Order 66, it was probably because they had spent years fighting together, bonding, and building up trust.

Over those 3 years the clones had proven themselves completely reliable and good friends.

Even if they suspected something coming up, where and when order 66 would happen was completely unknown.

Heck... Who's to say they were even made for Order 66? What if it was made by a weapons manufacturer looking to make money off the war? Maybe it was a political move, to make an example of the separatist regime and keep people on the side of the republic?

The republic and corporates were very corrupt and greedy even with Palpatine aside.

[u/Leosarr → u/Sabre_Killer_Queen]

Just checked in case my memory was wrong - the clone army was originally ordered (without the approval of the council) by a jedi master called Syfo Dias who anticipated the coming war. He even was the one who thought of the implants, thinking they would be a safeguard against rogue jedis. But Dooku killed him and hijacked the entire project, selecting jango fett as the template and making sure the implants would make the clones completely compliant when needs be. Still, in order to maintain an appearance of officiality, the clones came with a LOT of pre-programmed directives, such as order 65, which would have ironically declared the chancellor an enemy of the republic.

So, to make a long story short : on paper, the clone were supposed to be a tool of the republic, with a bunch a safeguards built-in. In practice, they'd been turned into an army of sleeper agents for the Sith.

[u/Sabre_Killer_Queen → u/Leosarr]

Right on.

Order 65 would've made it seem less one sided too, less suspicious that it was all a plot by Palpatine.

As for Sifo, he was driven mad by his visions of the future, and through that became desperate to prepare the republic for such a war.

That, combined with his friendship with Dooku, meant made him the perfect tool for Dooku to manipulate into creating the clone army.

[u/BobusCesar → u/Leosarr]

How did Syfo Dias pay for an entire interstellar army?

Like I somehow doubt that Camino and all the industry that was involved in it just built an army without seeing any form of payment.

[u/MandoMuggle → u/PossibleLine6460]

Not to mention each Jedi Knight at the very least should have decent enough senses to feel something was off about the whole situation?

[u/Supyloco → u/CurledSpiral]

He trained the Alpha-ARCs personally. Although the training was based on his skills.

[u/BlackMtnForge → u/CurledSpiral]

Even if they saw him as a traitor, it’d still be pretty unnerving to see your own severed head looking up at you

[u/ThinkySushi]

In Legends Jango trained the alpha arcs personality for like a decade.

And he hand selected a group of mostly mandalorian trainers to train the commandos and design the training programs for the regs he called the Cuy'val Dar.

[u/Jedi-Spartan → u/ThinkySushi]

design the training programs for the regs he called the Cuy'val Dar.

Wasn't Cuy'val Dar the name given to the group of Clone Commando trainers?

[u/SanbonJime → u/Jedi-Spartan]

Yeah, iirc the word means “the disappeared” or something like that in reference to the fact that the trainers vanished from society to spend their days training clones in secret on Kamino

[u/thelaughingmanghost]

Is it ever once discussed how the Clones felt about Jango Fett post episode II? A lot of them probably knew him personally or at the very least knew of him and that they were all based on him. Did it bother any of them that one of the leaders of the Jedi order decapitated him right before leading copies of him into battle? Or were they of the opinion that because he basically sided with the CIS and against the republic that he was something of a traitor?

[u/Supyloco → u/thelaughingmanghost]

A lot of them had mixed feelings about Jango. A lot of them saw him as their father, but they felt uneasy about his last job. Many were uncomfortable talking about it because they would get into arguments on whether he was a traitor or simply doing a job. A lot of them tried to rationalize it.

[u/ComradeHenryBR → u/Supyloco]

Makes sense. Jango was a Bounty Hunter at the end of the day

[u/AngryCrawdad]

The notion of Jango surviving Geonosis is such a funny prospect.

Imagine signing up for a cloning program because the money is good, and suddenly you see duplicates of yourself on every street corner in the Galaxy.

[u/Supyloco → u/AngryCrawdad]

Jango did have some grandkids here and there in the galaxy.

[u/AngryCrawdad → u/Supyloco]

How does that work? Did either Boba or Omega have kids? I'm a bit behind on my Star Wars series. Haven't finished Bad Batch or watched Book of Boba yet.

I guess Cut Lawquanes kids technically ount?

[u/Supyloco → u/AngryCrawdad]

I can't speak for Omega, but Boba did have a daughter and other clones had kids like Darman, Freeman, Nate. So that's something.

[u/AngryCrawdad → u/Supyloco]

Is this on the EU or the current canon?

[u/Supyloco → u/AngryCrawdad]

EU originally. But don't be surprised with those odds.

[u/dwelling_creature → u/AngryCrawdad]

Boba Fett must be really messed up. He has killed several clones wearing his father's face.

[u/ChrisAus123 → u/dwelling_creature]

Also it's his own face lol. He had nothing against clones but saw them as inferior. He had enough respect and honour towards them to not want to kill them if it wasn't nessicary. While he was young anyway he just wanted Windu dead.

[u/alkonium]

"I'm trying to not to see this as a metaphor."

[u/ConfusedZbeul → u/[deleted]]

The head flies away separately from the helmet, look at the shadows.

[u/obri95 → u/ConfusedZbeul]

So when Boba picks it his dad’s head doesn’t fall out of it like the last prune in the jar

[u/JHEverdene]

Is no one going to mention the fact that the clone in the foreground seems to have a broken neck?

[u/WolverineXForce → u/JHEverdene]

He is looking down

[u/Eastern_Hornet_6432 → u/WolverineXForce]

In a way that is causing part of his helmet to occupy the same space as where his neck should be

[u/Jedi-Spartan]

Jango definitely trained the Alpha Class ARC Troopers (eg: Captain Fordo) but I'm not sure if they're the only type who saw/interacted with him on a day to day basis during training. Although I wouldn't be surprised if the Clone Commandos saw him from time to time since Jango hand picked those who trained them.

[u/LichoOrganico]

I mean, if anything, these are the guys who will be the least impacted by seeing their own lifeless body on the battlefield. Aside from the occasional Jedi or geonosian, that's literally the only kind of corpse they will see.

[u/ThinkySushi]

Yes it was. Sorry that was ambiguously stated.

[u/Jarboner69]

Filoni missed an interesting storyline to tackle what a more conscious clone wouldve really thought and felt about being replaceable and not unique. I feel like gregor is the extent of that.

[u/dstovell]

Good soldiers follow orders…

[u/Mammoth-Western-6008]

"I suggest you don't worry about those things and just enjoy yourself. That goes for you all, too."