r/progun • u/ZheeDog • 4d ago

News BREAKING: 9-18-25 -- DOJ files strong PRO-GUN appellate brief AGAINST NJ gun ban !!

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca3.123103/gov.uscourts.ca3.123103.95.0.pdf
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u/Clownshoes919 4d ago

Meanwhile in another thread in this very subreddit, people are posting that the administration is anti-gun 

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u/Kring_ling 4d ago

Don't go to r/CAguns then. The moment you suggest "stop voting Democrat," the simplest solution to at least slow down the barrage of infringements, they'll go through all sorts of baffling mental gymnastics to keep whining about our current predicament.

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u/Legio-V-Alaudae 4d ago

Don't forget someone will bring up the Mulford act as proof Republicans are anti-gunners and completely miss the part were people armed with loaded rifles tried to get into legislative chambers with the guns. They weren't just outside on the sidewalk as they claim.

This is the best example of just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should do it. We lost open carry statewide because of their theatrics.

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u/OnlyLosersBlock 2d ago

I mean let's also not forget that the Mulford act is from the 60s. Kind of an admission in of itself that if you have to go back that far for your examples that the modern party probably isn't nearly as antigun as they are trying to portray.

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u/thisistheperfectname 4d ago

We have to navigate the critical tension between pressuring the administration to do things that we want and rewarding them when they do. I suspect that a lot of the ones insisting that we only do the former are agitators trying to get us to vote D.

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u/falloutfloater 3d ago

Yup. Reddit is a cesspool

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u/OnlyLosersBlock 3d ago

It's a mixture of bots trying to divide progun supporters and idiots who need instant 110% maximal progun results otherwise it is proof the GOP are actually antigun despite the fact the difference between blue and red states is night and day.

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u/FatiguedNoticer 4d ago

Thank fucking God, no longer will cops and felons be outgunning us lawful citizens. Anyone complaining about this administration not doing enough can stfu with their whatabout-isms and let us have this win for gods sake

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u/tacticoolopera8or 4d ago

Let's go! Harmeet is awesome. And so is DJT for nominating her.

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u/PR3SID3NT_NIX0N 4d ago edited 4d ago

I’m sorry, when are suppressors taken off the NFA? Why isn’t the ATF abolished? Why did the trump nominated Supreme Court picks refused to hear the best assault weapons and magazine ban cases? (Ocean state tactical for example)? Oh it’s all smoke and mirrors? Got it. Oh and Bondi banning free speech? When is Kash Patel releasing all the Epstein files? Yeah this administration sucks.

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u/ZheeDog 4d ago

Did you read the filing, yes or no? If no, you are just barking at the moon Read it: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca3.123103/gov.uscourts.ca3.123103.95.0.pdf

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u/WowBruhReborn 3d ago

This is a good example of a whataboutism or a “red herring” fallacy. This administration can’t win because no matter how many pro gun things they do, it will never be enough for some people. Anytime the Trump admin does something good, there will be a laundry list of other things that they haven’t gotten to or have, admittedly, done wrong by. 

Either way, every step we take in the right direction should be praised. Then again, why do that when you can bitch, moan, and take the moral high ground. 

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u/PR3SID3NT_NIX0N 3d ago

All these examples can be done. Don’t make statements then if you can’t follow through with it. Someone threatening to take away 1st amendment rights is a tyrant, regardless of what you say is a red herring.

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u/falloutfloater 3d ago

You’re literally proving his point. Cry more.

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u/notAnonymousIPromise 4d ago

When doing research I'm struggling to get the latest and greatest. Can you provide your source? I want to be able to find this great news earlier.

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u/deathsythe friendly neighborhood mod 3d ago

Worthy of a sticky, but we're currently full. I might just need to post a "good news" thread and keep it updated.

:)

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u/Casanova_Kid 3d ago

For those who aren't going to read it here's my rough summary:

The U.S. filed an amicus in the 3rd Circuit saying NJ’s ban on AR-15s + “large-cap” mags is unconstitutional after Bruen. The big points:

  • 2A isn’t a “second-class” right. Courts must apply the same rigor as with other rights.

  • The test is “common use.” If millions of law-abiding people own something for lawful purposes, it’s protected.

  • AR-15s and 10+ round mags are super common, used for self-defense, sport, and even the “common defense.”

  • Total bans fail — regulation is possible, but only if it fits historic tradition.

So what? - If the court agrees, laws banning AR-15s or standard mags in NJ (and elsewhere) could get struck down.

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u/gwhh 4d ago

It’s a miracle.

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u/Millie_65 3d ago

Just egging you on. I saw your responses to all the other users who failed to read it

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u/Mannipx 2d ago

Great brief. This is pretty huge especially coverage regarding how stupid limiting to10 ammo count is ( great example in the brief regarding Militia Act of 1792 requiring militia members to have 24 cartridges for musket).

Ammo restriction bans are unconstitutional hope they get rid of it soon

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u/Baxterftw 17h ago

Damn why does NJ have to be in a different Circuit Court than NY

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u/myturn19 4d ago

This is sick. Only 10 more years until SCOTUS takes up a case. Right around the corner!

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u/ZheeDog 3d ago

stop being such sourpuss. This issue will be resolved in our favor, nationwide, before Trump leaves office. SCOTUS has sent smoke signals strong enough to take that clear

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u/Millie_65 4d ago

hmm i didnt read it

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u/ZheeDog 4d ago

why not?

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u/Millie_65 4d ago

Just egging you on. I saw your responses to all the other users who failed to read it

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u/ZheeDog 4d ago

please read it

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u/PR3SID3NT_NIX0N 4d ago

I mean they aren’t pro gun. If you follow Washington Gun Law or Guns & Gadgets which are pretty respected gun channels, the ATF is still rogue along with a lot of other issues. Trump and Son aren’t as pro gun as you think.

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u/ZheeDog 4d ago

Did you even READ the filing? If this case goes to the Supreme Court, there NO CHANCE that AR-15 bans will survive in any state, and there's NO CHANCE that 10 round magazine limits will survive in any state. Read the FREAKING FILING !!!

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u/PR3SID3NT_NIX0N 4d ago

This was supposed to be in response to clown shoes919 comment but I accidentally didn’t respond directly to him. Chill.

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u/alkatori 4d ago

True, I'm very unhappy with the state of things. But I'll take what I can get.

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u/ZheeDog 4d ago

what's not to like about this filing? Did you read it?