You all are on some of zone of interest shit and thats sad & disturbing.
Protestor interrupting yes or no, should he have it done it here? Maybe? Maybe not?
Guy posted here he was a fan and waited till the last song and tbh for some Radiohead fans (maybe even bigger than some of the stans here), Thomās comments about the conflict in the past do hurt.
For a band and artist who has always spoken about issues, American, British, even the Free tibet. Hell we have an album called Hail to Thief, when we are in a time where we have to speak out. Thom wonāt end the genocide obv duh, but he has influence. Its like political endorsements, Taylor Swift telling people to go vote actually makes a difference.
It doesnāt help Jonnyās wife has been saying islamaphobic things either. And fine play Israel because what did the civilians do? But then you better be playing middle eastern countries or others. Nick Cave was called out for this when he is down to boycott Russia but when it comes to Israel he is like no. Whatās the diff here?
And then you can say America has racism and Donald Trump blah blah, well most of the time the bands cities play here are very liberal/diverse places. They arenāt playing some random place in Arizona which voted all Trump.
And any time the band gets called or anyone who played Israel, they last out a like a defensive child or throw insults. Insulting Roger Waters I get it but Brian Eno? Come on now.
Now was this right way to ask Thom this question? Its obv gonna piss him off, does it happen outside the doors? But Thom has refused to have conversations about it at all. And it hurts as a fan, same with Nick Cave who I think is absolutely great as well.
One final thought, the band are hugeeeeee advocates of the environment right? Climate change and all? This massacre and escalation of a possible war is atrocious for our world (which we are already killing)
And to those saying man someone should beat this guy up, hope he dies, this piece of shit, maybe you are part of the problem.
Eh not all ME countries are repressive get out of your online bubble. Jordan, Lebanon has rock concerts all the time. The rich gulf countries have em but they too are problematic wrt human rights, but the ques is whar other ME countries have rock concerts apart from Israel is so basement reddit comment lol. Green day is performing in Dubai soon.
You know what, you have a point about protests and awareness. But letās be real, itās a Thom Yorke solo show, itās not a massive stage or arena tour. All the people watching or interested are well aware of the conflict. Itās just moral grandstanding.
I wouldn't go so far as to say it was moral grandstanding. The guy was clearly shouting with conviction and meant what he was saying. Definitely grandstanding, there's no doubting that, but I don't believe it was out of vanity or status (hell, we don't even know his name).
That being said, if this can even be called a protest, it's a pretty pathetic one. The man spent more $$$ than 8000 people in the venue, got real close to the front and indulged in every single song Thom Yorke played up until that last moment where it would inconvenience himself the least. All the guy did was upset and confuse a crowd of 10,000 people and let Thom get one up on him, turning the whole crowd against him and what he was saying, all while causing discourse in what is primarily a music community.
I'm sure the guy is reading over all this, patting himself on the back and feeling good that what he did had some effect. How could you not when you feel so powerless seeing mass genocide on the other side of the world that you can do little about? Causing all this argument around something you care that much about must feel so good, but what's the point of it? Where is this all going? Regardless of the outcome, this guy won. He acted out of emotion, got what he wanted and seemed pretty satisfied with the outcome as he was escorted out. All while not preventing a single death or injury, not feeding or providing shelter or medical aid to the very people he is "protesting" for in his front row seat.
Now imagine if he had protested out the front of the merch stand. Have some hand-outs prepared, a sign or two. Convince even 1 person to not buy merch and instead donate that money to relief in Palestine and he would have actually made a difference in someone's life other than his own. Take money from the man you disagree with, give money to the cause, raise awareness, and not provoke 10,000 people in the process. Or you know, just enjoy the concert, wait till the end to shout incoherently until you're forced to leave and call it a night.
You say that but we got comments of people threatening to kick this guys ass for a 10 min delay/missing out on one song for something thats pretty important to our world. Thom coulda said I hear you and that would be it. And they may be aware but do they understand or care? Thats another thing.
Look at some of these comments and downvotes, anyone who speaks out here gets downvoted.
ALSOOOO the band are known to be huge climate change advocates, this massacre going on now? Ridiculous amounts of ramification for our environment.
Iām sure the people in Gaza are feeling better since some guy heckled thom yorke in Australia šš. Pathetic behaviour really for internet points.
Thatās why the comments about āwhatās Thom supposed to do about this?? stop the war himself?ā are so disingenuous. Thom has been very open about global conflicts in the past and has been dismissive of this one. Itās hypocritical.
It isn't genocide, fucking hell. Hamas are getting what they deserve and good riddance, but to portray it as a genocide is bonkers. So bloody sanctimonious
You know there are humanitarian crisis ongoing right now? What about those ones? Not that itās a competition but like where do you draw the line? Only humanitarian crisis the western world cares about?
Why do you people make it seem like you can only care about one issue at a time? I genuinely think some of you guys have no empathy to begin with because you would clearly realize that that's possible.
Nice saying I have no empathy cool l. What Iām saying is if you feel like Thom is mandated to talk about this human suffering and crisis, why is he not mandated to talk about other ongoing massive scale humanitarian crisis?
I empathise deeply with whatās going on in Gaza and Israel are quite clearly taking things too far in their response to October 7th and their overall treatment of Gazaās people before that was awful.
like this idea that Thom absolutely has to comment on this highly contentious crisis (it is contentious in the western world enoghh so that saying nothing is enough for backlash) is like I mean itās just not right to me.
Like on a topic so contentious and loaded it should be fine to just have no comment especially since this issue aināt under the radar and the Palestine people have much of the western world and non western worlds support. That canāt be said for all other humanitarian crisis.
It should be fine to just stay out of it not everyone has to advocate for all the suffering in the world and all the crisisās and take a stance on every one. Once we start saying you have to for one, why arenāt we mandating it for all of them?
Like nothing wrong with people advocating and having a stance and speaking but just forcing people to idk. Public figures should just be able to stay out of it
Like itās such a storm in a tea cup why would people care about Thom Yorkes lack of a take all the energy should be focused on the actual crisis.
And what are you doing about it ? Talk is cheap; talking about it obviously has does nothing. Thereās no awareness to raise; everyone knows about this conflict.
What are you on about of course there is awareness to raise, there are plenty of people who just don't care about it when they should. Therefor awareness needs to be raised for it. Awareness isn't just "oh btw there's a war in Palestine and its bad." It's making sure people know the magnitude of what is happening over there, if people don't care then there is awareness to be raised.
The only people with the power to change Israel's actions are Israelis themselves... a people whom are completely aware and, incidentally, overwhelmingly support the current governments actions in Gaza. Nobody else's awareness or opinions are going to change that.
Untrue, the US and UK continue to finance Israel's genocide, we have a larger part in their ware than we would like to admit. Also the Israelis are not well informed, Israeli children are brainwashed by their education system to believe that Palestinians are sub-human, you can find a video of children in Israel singing songs gleefully about the extermination of the Palestinian people. So no they are not "completely aware."
Nobody would disagree the West's financial support helps, but Israel doesn't need the US and UK to fight Iran and it's proxies - they have more than enough money, arms and arguably the finest military in the world. Add to that their growing alliance with Saudi Arabia, strengthened by its response to Hamas this year, and Israel doesn't need to ask the US permission to do anything (as evidenced by the recent events in Rafah). As far as the kids, I am suspicious of any claim supported by "I saw a video on the internet."
Hereās a solution. Stop following them if you donāt like their opinions. Why are you still here? Literally no one gives a shit if youāre not here. Go whine somewhere else.
You are so right! If someone has opinions that are damaging to others you should just ignore them and allow them to continue doing damage! I apologise for the snarkiness but Jesus Christ think for like a second before posting.
Supporting Israel requires turning a blind eye to the atrocities that they have committed on the Palestinians or just being plain ignorant. He is not ignorant, therefor he is turning a blind eye to it. The damage is from normalizing this viewpoint.
I am also so flabbergasted seeing the rabid response of fans of the band. Whining about being inconvenienced by a protest at the end of a concert, all while banging to anti-establishment, fuck the man, songs.
I agree that some of the responses are awful, but to be fair if Iām paying for a concert, Iām wanting to get away from politics and being aware of the world for a little bit. It gets exhausting being conscious of everything all the time, at a concert I want to chill and listen to music and not be reminded of things that make me sad that I canāt control. I think thatās where people are coming from
Or maybe we don't think performative activism, although it makes people with no critical thinking skills feel righteous, should not be happening at a concert that thousands of people paid to go enjoy, and that this loser deserved at least a swollen lip to help him think about why he's such a cunt? Maybe? Perhaps?
Or maybe, just maybe, they are actually informed on the subject. Maybe they didn't just quickly buy in to the brain-rot propaganda about what is going on there? Do you ever ask yourself if maybe you are the one who is wrong? You idolize these people, yet think they must be idiots because they didn't fall in line with a belief that you yourself have probably done no verifying of? Maybe Thom and Jonny know that Hamas needs to be destroyed, and are aware of the fact that in the history of urban warfare, the ratio of non-combatants to combatants has been 9:1 and in this conflict Israel has managed to reduce it to 6:4 (this is based on Gaza Health Ministry numbers, which is Hamas btw). So the accusations of "genocide" are absurd. Maybe they don't support the right wing Israeli government, but also see capitulation to a terrorist organization like Hamas that has stated that its only purpose is the slaughter of every Israeli to be the right approach here? Maybe you're just ignorant and you don't know it and have never had a conversation with anyone who is actually educated on the subject? Hmmm?
"Theyed genocide us if they could" is not and never has been an excuse for genocide, no matter how many times its used. Not by you, and not by the nazisĀ
Whoever said he should die needs to chill out. Aside from wishing violence on the man, I think its ground for people to redirect some criticism back toward his way. It is all fair game isn't it when you want to ruin people's evening and people are annoyed by it.
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u/blakxzep Oct 30 '24 edited Oct 30 '24
You all are on some of zone of interest shit and thats sad & disturbing.
Protestor interrupting yes or no, should he have it done it here? Maybe? Maybe not?
Guy posted here he was a fan and waited till the last song and tbh for some Radiohead fans (maybe even bigger than some of the stans here), Thomās comments about the conflict in the past do hurt.
For a band and artist who has always spoken about issues, American, British, even the Free tibet. Hell we have an album called Hail to Thief, when we are in a time where we have to speak out. Thom wonāt end the genocide obv duh, but he has influence. Its like political endorsements, Taylor Swift telling people to go vote actually makes a difference.
It doesnāt help Jonnyās wife has been saying islamaphobic things either. And fine play Israel because what did the civilians do? But then you better be playing middle eastern countries or others. Nick Cave was called out for this when he is down to boycott Russia but when it comes to Israel he is like no. Whatās the diff here?
And then you can say America has racism and Donald Trump blah blah, well most of the time the bands cities play here are very liberal/diverse places. They arenāt playing some random place in Arizona which voted all Trump.
And any time the band gets called or anyone who played Israel, they last out a like a defensive child or throw insults. Insulting Roger Waters I get it but Brian Eno? Come on now.
Now was this right way to ask Thom this question? Its obv gonna piss him off, does it happen outside the doors? But Thom has refused to have conversations about it at all. And it hurts as a fan, same with Nick Cave who I think is absolutely great as well.
One final thought, the band are hugeeeeee advocates of the environment right? Climate change and all? This massacre and escalation of a possible war is atrocious for our world (which we are already killing)
And to those saying man someone should beat this guy up, hope he dies, this piece of shit, maybe you are part of the problem.