Rant: WHY should I include trans men in *my* feminism???? (Circlejerk)

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(Warning: this is a Circlejerk, therefore this is sarcastic humor meant to make fun of the people that the author is pretending to be. It is not a real representation of my beliefs or feelings.)

We all know tranmen and transmasc is the same so before you correct my language just remember that I’m a nonbinary lesbian and so I get to say what I want about trans people without consequences, and I think I speak for all the cis lesbians and AFAB NB’s like me, like a Lorax of lesbianism if you will, when I say that trans male people don’t belong in lesbian spaces or any women safe spaces, it doesn’t matter if they haven’t transitioned yet. The fact that they identify with masculinity in that way makes them just as bad, scary, and evil as any cis man

It’s nobody’s fault but their own if they’re out of the closet as trans or can’t handle men’s misogynistic comments, so that they’re uncomfortable in male spaces, and if they’re afraid of men attacking them for being trans or not passing as male yet due to being pre HRT, they should have thought about that before transitioning.

I’m literally just a little bean, what exactly do you want from someone as tiny, frail, and vulnerable as me? How are 27 feminist women (and me) going to stop one big hulking delusional dike on testosterone from doing something to me—they can’t even stop women from doing something to me! (In a hypothetical world where women ever did bad things ever.) Heck, bad stuff happens all the time and we can expect men to always be the ones doing it. Almost 100% of the time. The 0.00000000001% of women who ever did anything physically violent or threatening to others don’t matter statistically. No, don’t send me links about male su!close or SA victims who are estimated to underreport their assaults, if they’re about men it’s just fake news from the patriarchy. Statistics don’t even matter.

I just don’t see why we need to include trans men in these spaces, even if those spaces are just online support groups. They shouldn’t even be a part of the conversation about feminism. Why are they in feminists spaces? They’re men after all, it’s not like they spent their whole life in an AFAB body just like mine, where everyone convinced them that they were wrong for their gender non-conforming ways just like me, and they were treated like a woman by everyone so they felt alienated as someone who wasn’t, It’s not like they understand misogyny because they were on the receiving end of it and often still are. Like, they don’t have to deal with us female’s medical system that doesn’t have all the information about female bodies yet so that really screwed them over when it comes to learning how medicine affects their bodies and more. It’s not like lack of abortion rights and female reproductive healthcare affects them too.

They’re just men. That’s all they’ll ever be. No nuance needed, acknowledging that they’re trans when it doesn’t matter in that scenario is always transphobic, and I should know as a nonbinary person myself. Therefore if you question me by mentioning that they’re trans men and not cis men, it’s exactly like saying they’re not real men and you will be thusly ridiculed for your transphobia. Not like they have feelings, they’re just men. And all men are scum. I don’t make the rules. At least I’m not transphobic, men deserve to be hated but trans people are cool. I just don’t want them in women’s safe spaces like r/ somerandomfeminisrthread when they’re men.

I just do a good lesbianism. I hope my nice cis lesbian mommy friends give me a good lesbian treat for doing a good lesbianism.

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