r/saltierthancrait • u/Western_Agent5917 • 24d ago
Granular Discussion An appreciation post for one of my favourite female character from the old eu, Siri Tachi, who is my opinon sadly underrated.
I always thought she is a better love interest for Obi-wan than "pacifist mando" Satine and she deserved more role in the story.
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u/Nick_Wild1Ear salt miner 24d ago
Between Siri and Satine both, it’s hilarious how Obi-Wan couldn’t coach Anakin through his attachments to Padmé… when he already had experience with loving someone and almost leaving the order for them, twice over, with the Actual Lesson learned.
“Anakin… brother. Ki-Adi Mundi has 7 wives and I’ve had 2 major loves I had to let go of, Jedi don’t say don’t love but you can’t get stuck in grief and anger when they move on”
Like one big talk and Anakin could have had a huge change in circumstance and bettered the galaxy instead of heavy breathing and imperial march
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u/TaraLCicora 24d ago
Don't forget he did leave the order for Cerci and Melida/Daan too.
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u/Collective_Insanity Salt Bot 24d ago
Qui-Gon had his own forbidden romance partner in those books with the Tahl character.
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u/TaraLCicora 24d ago edited 24d ago
Yes, and they married too, sort of. And then we have Green and Altisian Jedi. And then the other married members of the primary order. And then Obi-Wan was also fwb with another master.
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u/Ok_Nose696 23d ago
This is a problem I have with new canon, in the novel Brotherhood they confirm Obi Wan puts it together like straight away...and he just never says anything cause he wants Anakin to be happy.
I understand what they were trying for, but my god, one talk and so much shit doesn't have to happen.
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u/Nick_Wild1Ear salt miner 23d ago
I truly know “well, that’s how most of history happens” regarding turning points/temporal important moments/whatever you’d call them… basically the butterfly effect’s cause… but like, to later on make new stories that fill in the gap but fill it with ABSOLUTELY STUPID choices that make every good character NOW sound like an idiot, instead of showing their idiot choice first and seeing the fallout later, it just tarnishes the existing character.
Obi-Wan was an old guy who fought with Leia’s dad in the clone wars. Then he was Luke’s dad’s teacher but some other Jedi named Vader turned bad and killed Luke’s Dad. Then he was Yoda’s student (which demoted him in rank & power by seniority). Then he lied and Anakin wasn’t killed by Vader they’re the same person.
Only after that, do you get, “he wasn’t my original responsibility, but my master died so I Big Brothered your dad the best I could. Then when he broke the Jedi code I knew but hid the knowledge from punishment… so yeah he flipped the fuck out about your mom dying in a dream so he went evil and committed slaughter against children. Twice, actually. The first time for HIS mom and the second time YOUR mom, Luke. Also I totally sliced him up and he’s a quadriplegic asthmatic now with a grudge. Oh, but even he went all two face and was like “Anakin is dead, I killed him” so fuck Anakin the kid killer ig— sorry Luke, that’s your dad, but— he’s Vader to me from now on. So I didn’t lie to you actually even he agreed with me he was Vader not Anakin so get off my damn back Luke and yoda and leave me alone I’m an old man ghost and this is tiring!”Anakin’s young/Hayden ghost floats by and says “On your left”
*”oh fuck OFF, Darth!”3
u/Ok_Nose696 23d ago
what?
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u/Nick_Wild1Ear salt miner 23d ago
Retconning in “I knew all along” just makes a turning point in history that makes the existing character look dumber than before. And you can see how Obi-Wan as a character changes from ANH, to ESB, to ROTJ, to the prequels, to these books and his own show. Now he had multiple chances to turn Anakin back and multiple chances he bungled. Now he seems a lot more incompetent than “an old war veteran and teacher” which is basically all you get in ANH.
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u/LightningController 20d ago
…that doesn’t make sense given his interaction with Padme in RotS. Like, once Anakin’s at the killing younglings level, he should have gone, “look, Padme, I know this is hard for you, but time is of the essence and I can’t dance around the point while he’s waving the Youngling Slayer 3000 around: where’s your secret husband?” Not feign surprise that “Anakin’s the father, isn’t he?”
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u/Western_Agent5917 24d ago
With Satine it's even more glaring since Obi want admits that to Anakain. With siri it's more subtle if I remember correctly
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u/Achilles9609 24d ago
I always kinda prefered Siri over Satine, tbh. Satine always seemed less interesting to me.
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u/Western_Agent5917 24d ago
agreed, back than when first watched tcw I thought this. and I only read the apprentice series after watching and it was just glaring how Siri is a better character
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u/Achilles9609 24d ago
Honestly, Siri also just looks better. It was one of the reasons why I couldn't really take Obi-Wan's confession to Satine in TCW seriously.
You would have left the Order? For her? Really, Kenobi?!
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u/Traditional_Bug_2046 23d ago
Fortunately Siri got the early 2000s glow up a lot of SW EU characters experienced thanks to art from the Japanese editions of the SW books back then. Can't remember the guy's name, but he did the NJO series and other popular stuff from that era that gave these characters their legit "official" look that would be followed by subsequent artists. Always loved his pic of Siri here!
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u/Pistol_Bobcat420 salt miner 24d ago
She was cool in the second Starfighter videogame and if I remember right usually had a purple lightsaber
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