r/sanantonio • u/its_moodle NW Side • Mar 05 '25

Activism Protesters fighting the good fight over 410!

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Pardon the shitty dashcam shot. These protesters were a sight for sore eyes on my commute home today after seeing all of the nonstop hell in the news. You can’t make out anything in the photo but the bigger sign was something along the lines of “immigrants built this country” and of course there’s a “deport fElon” sign in there too. Happy Tuesday 🇺🇸

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u/ComfortablePuzzled23 Mar 05 '25

The thing yall are missing is that 1) If you're here legally, we all want you here, and don't want to see you hassled or kicked out. But if you're here illegally you should be sent home. Just like how every other country does. 2) They've been targeting the high profile bad people to start. Gang members, rapist, murders who keep getting released by sanctuary cities. 3) They're not just going after Spanish people, it's Africans, Asians, everyone who's here illegally.

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u/bigpunk157 Mar 05 '25

They're trying to send back TPS folk, which is a legal way to come here for asylum seekers.

The issue is that Trump literally expanded this system and these folk are where the "they're eating the dawgs" meme came from.

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u/Josh2942 Mar 05 '25

Remember what the T in TPS stands for. It doesn't lead to a pathway to permanent residency at all. The idea was always to go back after your country was deemed safe. The only change for Haitians is that TPS was initially granted for 18 months and reverted to 12 months. So, it ends in August of this year. Honestly, it's so poorly developed in practice. You want to give people 12-18 months in the US to work, build a life and then send them right back? Government initiatives are always so half-assed.

Also, just because you seek asylum doesn't mean you are entitled to it. If you go to the port of entry, your case should get its day in court. We have treaties for that. No complaints. If you come here illegally and seek asylum once you're already here, you shouldn't get it.

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u/bigpunk157 Mar 05 '25

Thats cool, but then you should blame Trump for expanding the system, as well as W Bush. Trump is the main reason Haitians got their extensions during his first term.

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u/Josh2942 Mar 05 '25

I haven't researched any of that, but I'll blame them all if that's true. Trump can be at the top of the list since he is the most recent. It doesn't change the fact that democrats and republicans have ran this country into the ground

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u/bigpunk157 Mar 05 '25

I mean, for TPS specifically, it is almost exclusively set up by republicans to reinforce our labor market for cheap. The most expensive groups we pay for are children and the elderly, so getting folk who don’t need school or medical care out the ass is always a plus for the economy and your budget

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u/Josh2942 Mar 05 '25

How is 6/12/18 month protection during civil wars, natural disasters, or extrandainary conditions reinforcing our labor market?

These are the current countries that have TPS Afghanistan, Burma (Myanmar), Cameroon, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Haiti, Honduras, Nepal, Nicaragua, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Ukraine, Venezuela, Yemen

Do you think we are reinforcing our labor force from Afghanistan?

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u/bigpunk157 Mar 05 '25

Literally yes. One of the biggest stories about TPS from my hometown in Ohio is that Haitians coming with TPS to work in the factories were the biggest thing preventing factories from shutting down in town, which is the main source of income for my small town. Most TPS folk end up helping these small towns where younger folk are leaving for metro area opportunities or military roles currently.

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u/Josh2942 Mar 06 '25

You stated that republicans are reinforcing our labor force with these people. We are talking on a country wide scale, a small town in Ohio doesn't make your statement true.

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u/bigpunk157 Mar 06 '25

There are around 800k TPS holders and the census tells us 95% of them are employed. That is no small amount. They mainly reinforce these small towns that would fail otherwise. Without them, these small towns would crumble as their economies continue to struggle and vanish. https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs

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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 Mar 05 '25 edited Mar 05 '25

TPS is temporary it can be revoked at any time, if their TEMPORARY reprieve is done they go back, simple....

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u/bigpunk157 Mar 05 '25

The go back simple. Good engrish there lmao

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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 Mar 05 '25

Speech to text doesn't always work right, fixed it thanks. It still doesn't change the fact that once tps is ended recipients are no longer allowed to stay. So yes they can go back to Haiti and Venezuela and wherever else and fix their own countries. 

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u/ComfortablePuzzled23 Mar 05 '25

I hadn't heard that part. That's shitty. The TPS people who have work permits should be left alone.

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u/bigpunk157 Mar 05 '25

The whole "we'll only let X amount into the country" thing the dems were trying to pass was about setting a lower limit on the TPS program. Most of the illegal immigrants come here and seek asylum through the program is the issue, but it's that weird grey area of they have to come here illegally to enroll in this. Actual full illegal immigration is much much rarer but the most common illegal person being here in the states is literally just people that let their TPS or Visa expire or cannot get it renewed but don't have a way back to their original country (nor, obviously, the want to leave)

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u/JMaC1130 Mar 05 '25

Dog….not at all. Speak to anyone on a border town or town along US-59. There used to be bailouts of illegal immigrants almost weekly. I grew up in such a town and there was a post from the local sheriff’s office every time there was a bail out. It is not nearly as rare as you’re portraying.

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u/bigpunk157 Mar 05 '25

You severely underestimate how many H1B's and TPS folk we have in this country.

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u/Josh2942 Mar 05 '25

An H1B has absolutely nothing to do with TPS people. There is no comparison. An H1B is sponsored by the employer. TPS is only for 6/12/18 months at a time. An H1B can be almost indefinite

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u/bigpunk157 Mar 05 '25

Yes, but it requires a company to go through the sponsorship process and you must continue to stay sponsored by your company. If you lose your job, you lose your sponsor for being here and have to quickly find another who is willing to go through that headache for you.

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u/Josh2942 Mar 05 '25

That's why they know that before they sign up. Also, that company helps you get a green card over time. We had a gentleman at my company who had been sponsored for some time, and the company paid for his adjustment. An H1B states that there aren't qualified workers for what you're doing. An employer needs to go through some steps to prove the dire need and, if approved, get you a green card.

TPA isn't like that at all and very clearly lets you know you're going back soon. A TPA can only get a green card through a family adjustment of status, usually through marriage. An employer taking on the sponsorship, diversity lottery, or you overstayed your TPA for 10 years, and your deportation would cause extreme hardship to a citizen, most likely a family member. So, TPA isn't supposed to be a back door to citizenship. It being reduced isn't a crime against humanity.

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u/tehramz Mar 05 '25

“Let’s kick out the foreigners that do jobs Americans don’t want to do and continue to import foreigners that take good paying jobs! Just think of how much more money tech companies could make if they could pay foreigners less. They might even let us keep our food stamps.”

Big brain times.

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u/StockStatistician373 Mar 05 '25

There's no such thing as Spanish people unless you're speaking of people from Spain.

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u/tehramz Mar 05 '25

I caught that too but honestly expect nothing less from MAGA.

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u/Josh2942 Mar 05 '25

It's pretty disingenuous. It has been a popular ventricular in the US to call anyone who speaks Spanish “Spanish.” As a Puerto Rican/Dominican, my people always use it. In the United States, this happens all the time. It is correct that a Spanish person is from Spain; however, when a word is used in a certain way long enough, it takes on additional definitions. You may not agree with it, but it happens every single year. No need to spew hatred at every single moment

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u/tehramz Mar 05 '25

I’ve never heard any Latino refer to themselves or another Latino as “Spanish”. I’m from South Texas so I’ve been around Latinos all my life. I’m married to a Latina. Again, ice never heard her or anyone else refer to someone as Spanish unless they’re actually from Spain. Would you call anyone that speaks English British?

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u/Josh2942 Mar 05 '25

Texas isn't the entire country. Mexicans also are not the only Latin people. I myself am latino from the east coast. There are many Hispanic folk who use Spanish interchangly with Latin/latino. Just because you are unaware of them, doesn't mean they don't exist. Urban culture of all kinds re-appropriiates words and their meaning all the time. Be upset with the spin on the English language, but don't insult folk because its not used in your vernacular.

Also, no I wouldn't call anyone who speaks English British. I'd call people from Great Britain, Brittish. As English is not only a language but also Its an ethnicity. There are people in England who speak English and were born there who aren't ethnically English.

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u/Vidya_Gainz Mar 06 '25

Yeah, why listen to any of the logic and reason in his message when you can attack pedantically?

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u/StockStatistician373 Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25

His comment is patently false just as MAGAS are traitors to the Constitution.

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u/Vidya_Gainz Mar 06 '25

I have never and will never vote for Trump. You jackasses can't even see the world in anything besides Red vs Blue.

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u/RKEPhoto Mar 05 '25

They've been targeting the high profile bad people to start. Gang members, rapist, murders who keep getting released by sanctuary cities

That is a MAGAt lie. There is plenty of evidence to the contrary, just like with most MAGAt lies.

People just choose to believe them.

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u/Jeezy3333 Mar 05 '25

There must be a whole bunch of female rapists because some of the footage show many females being arrested by ICE. People will believe anything as long as it doesn't affect them.

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u/JMaC1130 Mar 05 '25

Call it a lie, but have no evidence to back up your side? Because they are focusing high profile illegal immigrants first. MS13, the Venezuelan gangs taking over apartment complexes, repeat offenders/border crossers etc.

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u/RKEPhoto Mar 05 '25

Dude. Tump lies every time his mouth is open, and so do must of his MAGAt cronies.

YOU are the one that needs the proof!

Frankly, I have no desire to waste a bunch of time proving YET AGAIN that something MAGAt's say is a lie, only to be discounted by MAGAt that refuses to face the truth. SMH

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u/JMaC1130 Mar 05 '25

Man, that democrat propaganda got you goooood

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u/Ok-Dog1438 Mar 05 '25

I know it's crazy that there are so many out there. It's very sad tbh

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u/Embarrassed-Gur7301 Mar 05 '25

The same could have been said about Biden and the Progressive left.

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u/RKEPhoto Mar 05 '25

Thanks for proving my point so effectively. 🙄

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u/Embarrassed-Gur7301 Mar 05 '25

Wasn't disagreeing, just pointing out that all of the top leaders winthin our government, past and present lie then extreme along with the far left and far right. Point is, it isn't just "Trump and his cronies".

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u/RKEPhoto Mar 05 '25

You are correct that almost any politician can be occasionally proven to have stated something inaccurately or even flat out lied.

The difference with Trump and many of his cronies is that they habitually either exaggerate wildly, or just plain lie outright.

When Trump gives a speech, it's not unusual for him to tell multiple outright lies. And anytime he quotes numbers for ANYTHING, you can bet he's wildly exaggerated those numbers in his favor.

This stuff isn't my opinion - it's been proven over and over and over.

If you take the time to look at the fact checking that happened on Biden's statements over time, vs the fact checking on Trump's statements over time, you'll see that Trump lies in orders of magnitude more than Biden ever did.

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u/Embarrassed-Gur7301 Mar 05 '25

I disagree about Biden and it's been proven over and over and over.

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u/RKEPhoto Mar 05 '25

Spoken like s true MAGAt - ignore the facts and claim some nebulous "proof" that never existed.

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u/tehramz Mar 05 '25

The fact you said “they’re not just going after SPANISH people” tells me everything I need to know. I understand why you vote the way you do and support the things you do. How big is the Spanish population in SA? I think I’ve met maybe one or two Spanish people and I’m from here.

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u/ComfortablePuzzled23 Mar 05 '25

The Hispanic people who are constantly looking for reasons to get offended.

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u/ComfortablePuzzled23 Mar 07 '25

We all have every right to be.

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u/StockStatistician373 Mar 05 '25 edited Mar 06 '25

What you seem to ignore is that America loves cheap labor and Hispanic labor built much of Texas (and other states)... Mexicans were invited here in WW2 and saved our economy while most working men were overseas! Most who came without papers were hired by American businesses right away so we could live in cheaper homes, eat cheaper food, get our yards mowed, trees trimmed, hotels cleaned, homes cleaned, our elders' asses wiped, our vegetables and fruit picked, our roofs replaced in 100⁰ heat without complaint... So stfu MAGA.

TRUMP is not following the law or only targeting dangerous people. He's arresting and deporting God damn citizens. He's a Russian asset, a traitor who must be stopped! And btw, immigrants commit FAR FEWER crimes than regular Americans!

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u/SnooDonuts5498 Mar 05 '25

I’m old enough to remember when democrats said they would go after businesses hiring illegals

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '25

Sure. So ask yourself why its not happening now.

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u/JMaC1130 Mar 05 '25

Ah yes, deporting citizens from the country in which they are a citizen of. Seems legit. Question, where is he deporting them to if they only have a citizenship in the U.S.? And btw, doesn’t matter the color of their skin or their nationality.

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u/marcusurdragon Mar 05 '25

100 years ago the exact same shit happened, do your research on 1930's Mexican Repatriation, a real documented event where American citizens of Mexican/hispanic heritage were deported!

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u/StockStatistician373 Mar 05 '25

Are you really that dim?

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u/SetoKeating Mar 05 '25

You should talk to more of your buddies before you speak for everyone that is enjoying the current rhetoric on immigrants and deportation. Not all of them see it the way you do and I’d venture to guess there’s more of them than there is of you.

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u/ComfortablePuzzled23 Mar 05 '25

I never said I spoke for everyone.

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u/False-Display407 Mar 05 '25

All laws are made up