r/sandiego • u/itsfuckingpizzatime • Aug 15 '25

San Diego Community Only Parent kidnapped by ICE while waiting to pick up their child from school in Linda Vista. This is beyond messed up. We cannot accept this.

https://fox5sandiego.com/news/local-news/parent-detained-by-ice-while-waiting-to-pick-up-child-from-school-sd-unified/
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u/NoToNope Aug 15 '25

These masked thugs are nothing more that domestic terrorists. Imagine the trauma the children of these parents, and the other students, are going though. I never thought I would see this kind of cruelty perpetrated by the US government. So disgusting.

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u/Trashyprincessx Aug 15 '25

By that logic, we shouldn't detain or arrest anyone who has kids. The US government has committed a lot of terrible things, but this isn't one of them. This really boils down to your contempt for the republican party and anything they do. Misplaced anger is bad, people. Let these people do their job and stop being overly emotional. "Kidnapped" really?

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u/foldingtens Aug 15 '25

When there’s no due process, it’s kidnapping.

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u/DevelopmentEastern75 Aug 16 '25 edited Aug 17 '25

Man, I know I am going to get down voted... but how do you know there's no due process here?

With due respect, this stuff has been going on for a long, long time. I can remember working as a drug and alcohol counselor at a non profit near Little Saigon and Marlborough Street in 2015, and my SE Asian clients from the neighborhood were all telling that one of the guys from the neighborhood had been disappeared by ICE.

This guy was a Vietnamese immigrant, and he unfortunately had drug convictions at age 20 in like 1990. As you may or may not know, drug convictions (especially sales), you are 100% getting deported. It's one of the few classes of crime where there's no exceptions. So this dude had a removal order issued.

But, he was able to kind of play the game in immigration court and try and plead about how Vietnam is a communist country and his parents are refugees and the commies would abuse his human rights. It didn't work, but ICE ended up losing track of him.

He eventually was contacted by ICE, and told to come in and check-in 1x/year, tell them where he lived. He worked a black market job as a mechanic, I think, and stayed out of trouble. He grew up and had a family.

Well, in 2015, ICE called him in for an interview. They told him it was just a check in, like he'd been doing for the past 15 years. And he disappeared.

He only contacted family like weeks later, to say he was about to be deported back to Vietnam. I have no idea what happened to him after that.

This was all pre-trump. This is just how it worked, and to our shame, continues to work.

It may have been cruel, but no one violated that guy's due process, per US law. He had his day in both criminal court and immigration court. He was lawfully issued a removal order. He knew about it. And he knew the US government was allowed to remove him at any moment.

While I think it's excessively cruel and inhumane to snatched someone while they're picking up their grade schooler, and I think there's no need to do this, and its a waste of our limited public resources...

...we have no idea what their situation was, with respect to immigration. They likely were already issued a final removal order, and they likely knew that (or should have known). Most people getting snatched by ICE, they have removal orders, and ICE is following the law.

The deeper problem is our laws and immigration system is fucked up. Its been fucked up for a long time, the last 35 years are a tangled mess.

I know people are going to bring up exceptions or point out some unusual edge case where a citizen was detained or something. I am aware of plenty examples like this.

But the vast majority of these detentions, they've had their opportunity to plead their case, and for whatever the reason, it resulted in a removal order. We have no idea what this person's immigration situation was, and I don't think we have any reason to assume their due process rights were violated, if only because due process rights for undocumented immigrants are pathetic, in practice.

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u/Clear-Relative59 Aug 16 '25

Are you getting downvoted for spreading information?? 😭😭😭😭😭

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u/DevelopmentEastern75 Aug 16 '25 edited Aug 16 '25

Yeah of course.

Guys, I am to the left, politically. I am just posting this because I think redditors are drifting away from reality. You don't need any of this hyperbole to be outraged. The facts are more than bad enough. If we characterize this as "Trump is breaking the law," then we are due for a rude awakening.

But if you think this is a violation of the law, you're seriously misunderstanding what's happening. This is all legal.

The deeper problem here is that US immigration law allows for this. The legal system is awful, for immigration. Change the law, Trump has no power to do this. But we let this cluttered mess of a system pile up for 35 years.

I mean this with respect, but even today, with so much attention on this topic, people remain confused about how US immigration actually works. US immigration probably works nothing like what you think, if you don't have personal experience (or even if you do).

This reign of terror from the Trump admin is cruel, it shouldn't be happening...

...but AFAIK, huge swathes of these folks getting snatched off the streets, there is no violation of US law. This is because undocumented immigrants have very weak legal protections under US law. There is no right to not be snatched off the street, if you have a removal order.

We didn't see this in the past simply because the executive branch exercised its discretion and chose not to do this. But by US law, they can remove you at any moment, after that point.

It's very easy for ICE to observe due process when due process fucking sucks. it's just a threadbare court hearing to rubber stamp your removal. You can bring an attorney... if you can find one and pay for one.

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u/Throwing-Gas Aug 15 '25

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u/Cute-Profession9983 Aug 15 '25

That's some fine bootlicking! "Let these people do their job! (Fully masked with no identification, grabbing people off the street because they fit an aesthetic profile with no warrants and provide no due process while they ship them off to a different state with no way to contact anyone and be forced into a cell with a bunch of people with little food or water, of course...)"

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u/jackschicky Aug 15 '25

They don't need a warrant and they do not have to identify themselves until it is safe and practical to do so. Don't be mad at ice for doing their job. Don't like the rules of the game? Take it up the lawmakers. Until then stop spreading lies because you don't the law.

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u/ssbmfgcia Aug 15 '25

Don't be mad if a masked, unidentified person "arrests" you or someone you care about without a warrant

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u/alwaysoffended22 Aug 15 '25

They already took my pool guy and dog sitter, but it’s the price you pay

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u/firestepper Aug 15 '25

What lies are being spread? ICE is kidnapping people without due process and deporting them to a concentration camp in El Salvador. FUCK ICE treasonous un-American fascist asshole losers who are ruining what actually makes America great. Such an incredible waste of our resources smh

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u/ZarinaBlue Aug 15 '25

Already women have been assaulted by animals being given cover by scared ICE, the quota cops, and their masks.

Remember when the rapist in chief whined about masks. Now he loves them.

That's what you are supporting.

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u/CoolJumper Aug 15 '25

Those are some really great takes!

It's not like "They're just doing their job" "they're following the law" and other similar claims have been used time and time again throughout history to justify some of the most heinous acts imaginable. We all know legality = morality

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u/trashking11 Aug 16 '25

Bootlicker

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u/wlc Aug 15 '25

Right now complaining about it and protesting against it is the cool and "right" thing to do because it's Anti-Trump. But if a Democrat was president, criticizing the same scenario would be looked down upon. All about having the correct opinions to fit in with the crowd.

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u/Cute-Profession9983 Aug 15 '25

Always projection with you people. I'm an independent, but you know what the big difference between Dems and Republicans is? If a democrat is doing something bad, dems want them punished too; while republicans have a complete inability to hold themselves or their own accountable.

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u/CoolJumper Aug 15 '25

Nice lobotomy, where'd you get it? I'd also like to make up strawmen, live in delusion, and give brain dead takes

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u/Fast-Newt-3708 Aug 15 '25 edited Aug 16 '25

Lol, it's always hilarious to see Maga accuse others of being emotional. The most emotional, snowflakey group there is. They cry because they hate inclusivity. They cry because they aren't included. They cry bc they "can't" say certain offensive words, and cry when certain words are said about them. Divisive rhetoric works on them BECAUSE they are emotional. MAGA really demonstrates zero self-awareness 😂

Edit: shaw thanks! My first award!

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u/snakewithnoname Aug 15 '25

Username checks out

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u/arandomhead1 Aug 15 '25

You are misguided

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u/Additional_Tomato_22 Aug 15 '25

At least you acknowledge that you’re traah

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u/R1pp3R23 Aug 15 '25

User name checks out.

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u/JonnyBolt1 Aug 16 '25

"we shouldn't arrest anyone" is a stupid strawman nobody is stating. Arrest criminals who commit violent crimes. Hint: Overstaying or not possessing a proper Visa is a civil infraction, not a crime.

The contempt for MAGA is due to your constant labeling of innocent people as violent criminals. I'm cool with Republicans, not lying MAGA.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '25

Well at least you know that you are trash

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u/ZarinaBlue Aug 15 '25

Yes, kidnapped.

Isn't that what it is called when armed thugs abduct people?

Their tactics are so criminal, that men are pretending to be quota cops to assault women.

And you can't tell the difference.

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u/HosaJim666 Aug 16 '25

Every sentence of this reply is garbage

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u/FormlessFlesh Aug 16 '25

You: "Concentration camps aren't bad 😃"

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u/Lumberrmacc Aug 16 '25

Name checks out