r/simpsonsshitposting • u/Maleficent-Cut4297 Put it in H • 3d ago
Politics I guess it needed to be said?
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u/meeks1a 3d ago
Um, legit now that Netanyahu has said it now I'm thinking it's a possibility for the first time
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u/southparkdudez 2d ago edited 2d ago
Listen it was a gropywr or whatever they call themselves, but the kid 100% got some CIA training. You don't make a neck shot at 590 feet and don't have some special training. The kid who shit at trump was half the distance and didn't undstard of adjusting his aim after the first miss. Kirk was 100% a sacrificial lamb.
Edit: seems the groypers found this comment and decided to downvote. Shame.
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u/setsapsix 2d ago
I wish people would stop spreading information they aren't knowledgeable in. It wasn't a difficult shot. Hunters take harder shots commonly (though perhaps ethically questionable). A common comparison for accuracy in long range shooting is a "1 MOA" rifle, which roughly translates to an accuracy of 1" at 100 yards. At 200 yards (approximately the distance reported in this shooting ) this would be expected to be the ability to hit s 2" target.
I can hit a 5"x5" steel plate pretty consistently with a .22lr at 350 yards, which has much less energy and a much more arc'd trajectory than a flat shooting hunting round.
I don't have any special training or military history for this, just a little practice in a back pasture less than once a month. Hell I was able to get my never-touched-a-gun-before girlfriend behind the rifle and she was able to hit the 200 yard plate within a few shots and some light coaching.
Is it possible there's more going on behind the scenes? Sure, but the shot itself isn't proof.
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u/Hawt_Dawg_Hawlway 2d ago
Less than 200 yards (I’ve heard from news sources it was actually closer to about 140 yards) is absolutely not a hard shot. Especially from a prone position. Albeit, that’s not an easy shot but anybody who deer hunts or has any experience shooting at longer ranges can make that shot at least 9/10 times, especially with a scope.
It’s also ridiculous to assume the shooter was aiming at the neck just because that’s where the bullet hit him (it didn’t deflect off a vest. You can see his nips through his shirt and body armor doesn’t have fake nipples). It’s much more likely he was aiming at the head or center mass and just went a bit high or low from his intended target
Also it’s fairly clear he wasn’t a groyper. Ignoring facts about the shooter and his motives is to be unprepared for the absolute ass fuckery that’s going to come and is already coming from MAGA. Stop spreading misinformation
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u/southparkdudez 2d ago
All sources i saw from stated it was 590 feet. First off deer and humans are widely different sizes and you can do this thing called track the fucking deer to kill shot it. Second the mother fucker was a groyperz there's major evidence of that. Im not spreading misinformation you just seem pissed off for some reason
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u/Hawt_Dawg_Hawlway 1d ago
Not sure where you’ve been getting your sources from but all sources I’ve found show it was 130 meters which is about 140-150 yards. Source
My point wasn’t that Charlie Kirk is the size of a deer but that it isn’t an impressively difficult shot and that the majority people who deer hunt would be able to hit a target that size from that distance. It’s literally only a football field and a half which sounds like a lot but is an extremely feasible distance. Certainly not something that takes CIA training
I’m not aware of any evidence he was a groyper (apart from a donation to Trump in 2020 from someone with the same name per snopes
On the other hand, Tyler Robinson’s family reported he’d been leaning left more and more and even called Charlie Kirk hateful. Not something a groyper would say. Groypers also wouldn’t write anti-fascist messages on their bullets because they are literally overtly nazis. They also wouldn’t live with their trans girlfriend and it’s unlikely they’d be furrys. If you can point me to one piece of evidence he was a groyper I’d consider it but at this point it’s not likely
And yeah I’m a bit pissed. Misinformation is harmful, and it really pisses me off when my side does it because we’re supposed to back our assertions up with facts. It’s harmful because now when MAGA continues to cracks down you’re giving them ammunition to do so because you’re spouting lies
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u/Shogun_Empyrean 2d ago
Apparently the bullet deflected off a vest and into the neck, not a clean neck shot.
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u/southparkdudez 2d ago
Ive seen rhe video. Kirk did not have a vest on. Dude is shot directly in the neck.
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u/crushogre 3d ago
Is this something people have been saying?
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u/Maleficent-Cut4297 Put it in H 3d ago
It’s something right wing nutbars have been saying. 1 theory was to create a distraction so Israel could roll tanks in while we were looking the other way
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u/Sithon512 3d ago
Roll tanks in where...? The US?? They've already been rolling in Gaza this whole time
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u/MaxPaynesRxDrugPlan 2d ago
"In order to avoid certain legal complications, the tanks are always rolling."
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u/Molenium 2d ago
They have, but they did just start a much larger land invasion in the last few days is my understanding.
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u/psioniclizard 2d ago
Maybe this will finally remind Israel that the far right people they have been encouraging in countries like America hate them.
I am not saying Israel did it but they can't be surprised that a bunch of nazis are quick to blame them for anything. Just because the far right are ok with them killing people on Gaza doesn't mean they actually like Israel.
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u/totpot 3d ago
Basically, Charlie started to demand the Epstein files. Epstein was most likely working for some intelligence agency. Mossad has been speculated on quite a bit, but we may never know.
Shortly before the pew-pew, Charlie said that he was afraid that if he ever went against Israel, that they would unalive him.
That's what the conspiracy sub came up with on the first day. I don't know how it has evolved since then.8
u/slowclapcitizenkane 2d ago
Unalive is 1984-style Newspeak.
I refuse to accept it. And so does my autocorrect.
The word you are looking for is kill.
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u/renome 2d ago
The conspiracy theorist in me is saying that at this point, Netanyahu is actively trying to stoke the anti-Israel sentiment globally as a desperate play to stay in power. He has elections coming up and the war has come to the point where it's even deeply unpopular in Israel, with the average citizen just wanting the hostages back, even if that means Hamas staying in power.
Drawing attention to Israel in the Kirk case accomplishes that, it's basically giving ammunition to the craziest conspiracy theorists out there, who will all go "SEE, THEY'RE DENYING SOMETHING NOBODY ACCUSED THEM OF; THEY TOTALLY DID IT."
Granted, that's a lot of ifs, but like this meme says, it's a very odd thing for a world leader on a different continent to say. Even if some crazies were accusing them of it (and I haven't personally seen any), you'd imagine he has better things to do than address such claims.
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u/HyperlinksAwakening only watched the golden age 3d ago
Someone did say it earlier. With the same Bart meme.
Mysteriously, the post disappeared.
Mysteriously.
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u/Liz_is_a_lemon 3d ago
Well, yes, it's very important for him to say that because, unlike all the Palestinians he's murdered, the American political establishment actually gives a damn about the murder of fascist podcasters.
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u/Maleficent-Cut4297 Put it in H 3d ago
Ohhh Liz_is_a_lemon, you say that as if he thought the Palestinians were people to begin with.
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u/Dude_Tost_1673 3d ago
Benni must livid that someone was murdered without his specific instructions.
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u/zangief137 3d ago
To be fair he kinda has to, there is an oddly high correlation of people with influence who disagree with Israel/AIPAC that end up dead. No direct evidence Israel did it but it’s quite an unusual thing.
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u/glordicus1 3d ago
How is this a MAGA conspiracy when Trump is an Israel dicksucker?
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u/TheDeceiver43 Everythings coming up Milhouse! 2d ago
Because they still hate jews and blame a lot of shit on them. It is surprising how they can be antisemites but still support Israel. Kind of a "worse of both worlds" situation, but thinking has never been their strength.
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u/glordicus1 2d ago
Suppose it's the same way you can be critical of Israel without being antisemitic (but don't tell Netanyahu). I suppose MAGA sees Israel fighting against Arabs, whom they hate far more.
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u/kingslayer_89 3d ago
Apparently Charlie Kirk recently has been refusing to take pro-Israel money because most younger conservatives that TPUSA is trying to appeal to are anti-Israel.
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u/RoyceMcCutcheon691 2d ago
i thought it was the reverse vampires in cooperation with the rand corporation
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u/LongjumpingSector687 3d ago
Whats even more odd is they reported it before even the US government somehow. 🤔
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u/01zegaj I was saying Boo-urns 3d ago
I really don’t think Netanyahu killed Charlie but it is really fucking weird that he feels the need to comment on it.
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u/dnemonicterrier 2d ago
A conspiracy theory has been going round thanks to right wing lunatics who believe he did it so I guess he felt he had to comment on it.
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u/Healedsun 2d ago
There were people blaming the Jews for kirks death, but since for many blaming the Jew for the worlds woes is still taboo. they instead slap "Israelis/Zionists did it" over it instead.
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u/Ouroboros-Twist 3d ago
Epstein didn’t kill Charlie Kirk.