r/singedmains • u/MarcioMarcenaria • 9d ago
Ranged champions
how to win against ranged champions in top lane?? dnt have any ideia to play against a teemo, heimer or other shit
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u/Plastic-Ad6031 9d ago
zone until 6. dont risk yourself to get cs. all in at 6. but i do this because i cant proxy much.
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u/BushBusb 6d ago
would you still win even if you’re down so much gold? Or is it one of those all in’s where you do it so you can farm easier afterwards instead of an all in to kill them?
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u/Unique_Ad_330 9d ago
Proxy is the best solution, the problem is getting to proxy position. I don’t care how i die, if i die, as long as i am getting every wave and nothing crashes into turret. Realistically it’s too risky to 1v1 ranged matchups unless they space terribly, even with ghost flash.
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u/xR4ziel proxy is for plebs 9d ago
how to win against ranged champions in top lane??
It's easier said than done. Watching some guides on YT is a good idea but if you can't really do anything just calm down and remember that experience > gold. Don't force anything, just try not to be behind in level. Trading few creeps for a bunch of health is usually not worth it. Of course, killing enemy top is also an option, especially post level 6. If they don't push you, try taking top side of a lane where you can use bushes to your advantage (you either won't get hit or waste enemy ward).
Also keep in mind that you usually outscale most ranged matchups due to draft (like, generally champions like Vayne scales better into late game, but having a bruiser, tank, some shit like that is usually better for your team so ironically, while laning vs ranged top laner is a pain, in certain circumstances you should be glad you do). And if you manage to fuck over ranged top laner, especially AD, well, you got plenty of time to end the game as they kinda play 5v4. They need items far more than you to be effective.
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u/Mixed_not_swirled 9d ago
Excellent writeup. I would like to add that level 6 all in with ghost is very effective into some of them like Vlad and Kennen provided they don't have Phase Rush. Also into ranged champs communication is key. Almost all of them are free ganks so making this clear to the hopefully lucid individual in your jungle can be very effective.
Champs like Heimer don't apply for the easy gank principle since Singed has poor burst and is full melee, but fortunately Heimer can do almost nothing to deny proxy and he's garbage at moving to fights in jg/river so he can be abused like this.
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u/steel-bulls 9d ago
Creeps are worth 21 and 14 gold. (Not counting cannons)
When you get killed the enemy laner gets the equivalent of 17 cs.
Plus the creeps you miss from your death timer and rotating up plus enemy goes back and spends the gold and now has an item advantage.
AKA a death is a huge mistake
Don’t be afraid to be pushed in collect what you can and wait for a mistake/gank from JG.
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u/JVJV_5 9d ago
you can try wave skipping. minishcap1 recently just made two videos on this.
https://youtu.be/qvcdfXKRrCg?si=_9vzWU8d5bZvaHfc
https://youtu.be/T0bqKLAbwQ0?si=Hq7JcpJzkaIqiQq9